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Jackson Irvine Responds to Antisemitism Claims

tsf said:
Unhinged psychopaths.

Everything is anti-semitism unless you are cheering on the baby murderers
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every case Ive seen where someone has been accused of antisemitism they said something anti semetic and then completely misrepresented what they said as something innocent like "you cant criticize israel without being labelled anti semitic"
 
grazorblade said:
every case Ive seen where someone has been accused of antisemitism they said something anti semetic and then completely misrepresented what they said as something innocent like "you cant criticize israel without being labelled anti semitic"
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So you're saying Jackson Irvine is an anti-semite? What should his punishment be for acting anti-semitic?
 
tsf said:
So you're saying Jackson Irvine is an anti-semite? What should his punishment be for acting anti-semitic?
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Mono above seems to have a screen shot of a shirt he wore. Not sure if there was more, St Pauli said they are handling it internally. Having said that, Jacksons response isnt particularly reassuring to me...
 
grazorblade said:
Mono above seems to have a screen shot of a shirt he wore. Not sure if there was more, St Pauli said they are handling it internally. Having said that, Jacksons response isnt particularly reassuring to me...
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You avoided answering two very basic questions in response. So you're saying Jackson Irvine is an anti-semite? What should his punishment be for acting anti-semitic?
 
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tsf said:
You avoided answering two very basic questions in response. So you're saying Jackson Irvine is an anti-semite? What should his punishment be for acting anti-semitic?
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I havent heard anything confirmed and not a fan of trial by rumours, although that has been the norm these days

If antisemitism is confirmed at minimum I do not think he should be captain of club or country, but its all speculation at this point
 
tsf said:
You avoided answering two very basic questions in response. So you're saying Jackson Irvine is an anti-semite? What should his punishment be for acting anti-semitic?
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Well a Mainz player was sacked.
 
grazorblade said:
I havent heard anything confirmed and not a fan of trial by rumours, although that has been the norm these days

If antisemitism is confirmed at minimum I do not think he should be captain of club or country, but its all speculation at this point
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The shirt is pretty damn blatant. Now hiding behind the 'I just want to support people'. Why not make a statement about ending the conflict, or eradicating Hamas? Egypt isn't doing anything. Maybe Hamas should stop using the food deliveries as leverage. Who bloody knows what to believe with all this food! Israel and other organisations say millions of meals are delivered and others say it's being withheld while Hamas media are the ones reporting there isn't anything yet are the one's responsible for distributing it. Why aren't the Gulf states delivering food en masse?
 
grazorblade said:
I havent heard anything confirmed and not a fan of trial by rumours,
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Contradicts your opening statement a bit though doesn't it.

"every case Ive seen where someone has been accused of antisemitism they said something anti semetic"
 
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The shirt is pretty damn blatant. Now hiding behind the 'I just want to support people'. Why not make a statement about ending the conflict, or eradicating Hamas? Egypt isn't doing anything. Maybe Hamas should stop using the food deliveries as leverage. Who bloody knows what to believe with all this food! Israel and other organisations say millions of meals are delivered and others say it's being withheld while Hamas media are the ones reporting there isn't anything yet are the one's responsible for distributing it. Why aren't the Gulf states delivering food en masse?
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My understanding of the contradictory stories around aid is Israels official policy is to deliver the aid and the government for the most part does that. However, some members of government high up are allegedly ordering soldiers to destroy aid motivated by hatred. My source says the basis of the war crimes indictment is they have soldiers willing to talk about a superior giving such order and their testimony is enough to establish motive. The source seems reliable and close enough to know but I cant gaurantee it, and there are a lot of dodgy stories been going around. However, it makes sense of what Ive seen
 
Jackson probably doesnt even know the shape of countries on the shirt, he is most likely a pacifist and wants violence to end.
 
grazorblade said:
My understanding of the contradictory stories around aid is Israels official policy is to deliver the aid and the government for the most part does that. However, some members of government high up are allegedly ordering soldiers to destroy aid motivated by hatred. My source says the basis of the war crimes indictment is they have soldiers willing to talk about a superior giving such order and their testimony is enough to establish motive. The source seems reliable and close enough to know but I cant gaurantee it, and there are a lot of dodgy stories been going around. However, it makes sense of what Ive seen
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Fair assessment I'd day. Some want to help and others want to hinder.
 
tsf said:
Contradicts your opening statement a bit though doesn't it.

"every case Ive seen where someone has been accused of antisemitism they said something anti semetic"
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Maybe it was worded badly, but I was responding to this

"Unhinged psychopaths.

Everything is anti-semitism unless you are cheering on the baby murderers"

And relating my experience where in every case Ive seen someone say "i wasnt being anti semitic, you cant even criticize israel without being called antisemetic" they actually said something antisemetic!

I think saying we shouldnt dismiss charges of antisemitism as being falsely accused for critiquing the israeli government is compatible with not going to the other extreme and doing trial by rumour
 
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