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2025 Hahn Australia Cup

Monoethnic Social Club said:
DUDE, to see the KFC add you have to be watching first... thats my point... A kid not interested in watching even 10 min highlights of football isnt going to watch a bunch of stiffs sitting ont eh couch talking about which player did what and how many xGs make the best betting odds for passes completed or whatever trainspotting bullshit a panel show would dross out....

Thats like expecting the hundred thousand plus Wrexham and Milan merch buyers and event goers to tune into an actual Australian football match this year because of a result one way or another....

Your club has already tried to give away KFC (or was it Maccas?) for free to get people to games and nobody came, what makes you think an add would change their minds?
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Fair enough we'll argued
 
Kitwally said:
Not my league LFC. As I said, I support football in Australia. Can’t stand AFL and NRL. Liverpool in England. Sabah FC in Malaysia (especially when they play against Melaka FC. And before I get attacked for being anti-Greek, that’s a city in Malaysia with a great name).
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haha lets not talk afl we will upset many of our fellow southerners for on the record many know where I stand there.

We can all agree its hard to read people/posts intent and I'm sure H_bw is a good passionate bloke as well not to personally attack the passion runs fast sometimes by many of us me incl.

I think why we jump there is always the comparo of the APL whereas the NPL live on fumes and banishment so comaring anything as mentioned by someone apples and oranges.

IMO the original AL led many down a path of make believe and to this day, our game was never going to meet the costs and expected crowds what was sold to the License's let alone the new supporter base that is fickler than NSL/NPL crowds.
They sold it very well professionally - had to but the proof is in the pudding not just post covid it was scaling down 3/4yrs pre covid.
The writing was on the wall.

Our game just needed a strong leader bring it together/Feds and all and the supporter base would have tagged along.
Not these over sized grounds, a decent broadcaster, fix up the grounds that needed attention.
Build that platform, good ground experience but importantly local clubs mixed with some new ones if needed that would have been far more affordable and a safer base to build on.
Pro 1 then 2 then 3 as things grew in time, Japan did JL2 in 6yrs.
Sadly we in NPL land have been up a creek without a paddle but you still survive as proven, AL/APL is in a different boat that without massive $$$'s is like the cars of today and other commodities, could be a throw away IF those ogarlords jump overboard/or broadcaster not sufficient enough for how else is those clubs going to survive ? for eg regos/Jnrs/bbq's and club football ? doubt it eh.
 
LFC said:
haha lets not talk afl we will upset many of our fellow southerners for on the record many know where I stand there.

We can all agree its hard to read people/posts intent and I'm sure H_bw is a good passionate bloke as well not to personally attack the passion runs fast sometimes by many of us me incl.

I think why we jump there is always the comparo of the APL whereas the NPL live on fumes and banishment so comaring anything as mentioned by someone apples and oranges.

IMO the original AL led many down a path of make believe and to this day, our game was never going to meet the costs and expected crowds what was sold to the License's let alone the new supporter base that is fickler than NSL/NPL crowds.
They sold it very well professionally - had to but the proof is in the pudding not just post covid it was scaling down 3/4yrs pre covid.
The writing was on the wall.

Our game just needed a strong leader bring it together/Feds and all and the supporter base would have tagged along.
Not these over sized grounds, a decent broadcaster, fix up the grounds that needed attention.
Build that platform, good ground experience but importantly local clubs mixed with some new ones if needed that would have been far more affordable and a safer base to build on.
Pro 1 then 2 then 3 as things grew in time, Japan did JL2 in 6yrs.
Sadly we in NPL land have been up a creek without a paddle but you still survive as proven, AL/APL is in a different boat that without massive $$$'s is like the cars of today and other commodities, could be a throw away IF those ogarlords jump overboard/or broadcaster not sufficient enough for how else is those clubs going to survive ? for eg regos/Jnrs/bbq's and club football ? doubt it eh.
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You’re right the establishment of the A League was mishandled from the beginning. The Crawford Report was virtually ignored, Frank Lowy’s anti ethnic clubs agenda and John O’Neill’s basic lack of understanding of what makes a football fan tick.
 
Kitwally said:
I want existing NPL clubs to be in the A-League, but according to ultimatealeague.com, last season’s averages for WU were 3.7K and for MacArthur 4.6K. I’m no mathematician, but I think that’s roughly 2.5 times and 3 times 1500? Quite a big difference……..
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Would they get 2.5 to 3 times the crowds in an NPL though .. if NOT then what are we talking about here?
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
This is exactly the issue over and over, you want to compare crowds ok, level the playing field open the nartional stage up and put ALL the teams to the test..

You want an NST pump an equivilent amount of time and above all money as went into the aleague and then come and we can compare crowds, popularity, competition, whateeeever you like!

Its futile to compare apples to oranges.. YOU are a fully funded and FA saved over and over again closed franchise system! We are a state run community funded system whose member teams got ejected for no viable reason but continue to fight the good fight to stay at the top of what was allowed them by the powers that be that conveineintly always bail you out but dont have minimal funds to only fund travel in order to create a second tier!

Now lets compare with all that truth in mind!
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yes exactly this...
 
libelous said:
You’re right the establishment of the A League was mishandled from the beginning. The Crawford Report was virtually ignored, Frank Lowy’s anti ethnic clubs agenda and John O’Neill’s basic lack of understanding of what makes a football fan tick.
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Thing is the A-leagues clubs are funded by TV revenue. unlike the NSL and NPL where they thieve money from there Jr/youth players to fund the senior teams costing family's thousands of dollars only to see the money spent not on there kids but the senior teams imports etc. Hype the NPL clubs all you want at least the ALM clubs don't steal from kids.
 
NoMates said:
Thing is the A-leagues clubs are funded by TV revenue. unlike the NSL and NPL where they thieve money from there Jr/youth players to fund the senior teams costing family's thousands of dollars only to see the money spent not on there kids but the senior teams imports etc. Hype the NPL clubs all you want at least the ALM clubs don't steal from kids.
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Except the aleague teams do syphon FA money which does come from said kids primarily also.. You are not wrong regarding the rorting of the juniors/families however by the FA to fund other things!
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NoMates said:
Thing is the A-leagues clubs are funded by TV revenue. unlike the NSL and NPL where they thieve money from there Jr/youth players to fund the senior teams costing family's thousands of dollars only to see the money spent not on there kids but the senior teams imports etc. Hype the NPL clubs all you want at least the ALM clubs don't steal from kids.
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I get that you are going for some sort of "edgy" persona but if your still peddling this debunked bullshit.... you're a bit lame.
 
I guess SAP that is a endorsed FA and Feds supported incl a Youth system that AL/APL are heavily involved in incl their holiday camps isn’t going into the AL coffers to support their costs and players isn’t extorting but fund raising lol - FFS what a…..

I suppose npl and rep clubs below need a proposal from noideamate how to run your club as a charity hahaha
Oh I know one resource that would help a little ???
Throw out clubs from a neighbouring island and take the kick back the FA receive and make better use of it for our clubs.
 
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may I say I apoligise talking as such (1013) for I don't like being a keyboard narc but seriously what terrible insulting posts 1007 1011 are and I went to that level.
Hulk kind of mist I got.
 
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Pasquali said:
Hey everyone, we’ve just launched Shouts – our new tipping game.

Think you know who's going to win each round? Now’s your chance to prove it. With Shouts, you can back your picks, see what the rest of the community is saying, and follow your progress round by round.

Quick, fun, and all about the fans.

Get your shout in before kickoff! 👉 Shouts
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Just signed up for Shouts and tipped most of the games, but is there a way for us to be able to tip draws or is it just pick one team or the other?
 
biggiemic said:
Earlier this year Souths were reportibly being with player wages by a fair amount.

Was that true?
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Not the first time either, numerous reports of it happening over the years, like literally all you have to do is type in on google is South Melbourne not paying players, and you'll see loads of articles over the year, even ai thinks theyve committed wage theft 🤣
but of course the ones who live and breathe South Melbourne will deny it and for some reason deflect towards Oakleigh.
Hellenic_blue&white said:
Yeah....... but it had a sphere of reality in and around Oakleigh only!

For the rest of the state obviously (as is proven) was about as true as the concept of the reptilian overlords!
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Case in point.
 
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