Football us life said:

Stan Grant was the guest on ABC radio's 'Conversations' interview show yesterday. I thought he was great and I highly recommend anyone listens back on the app or to the podcast.

He's got some very interesting opinions on race, integration and indigenous affairs. I know he's not going to be everyone's cup of tea and can be a bit prickly but then you can’t please all of the people, all of the time...

He's obviously a high profile journalist but I think people like this should be in politics and not just talking or writing about it.

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Interesting?

Muz said:

Fearing others is hard-wired into our brain due to evolution for good reason. There's science around this. That then so happens to manifest itself in us as racism and prejudices.

The struggle is to overcome those inbuilt biases In today's world which, in general, we largely do.

This isn't an Australian thing. It's a human thing. (That's not to excuse racists in Australia or anywhere else, they make me sick.)

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Basically humanity would need a common ‘other’ to unite against and thus require the dissolution of these prejudices; that was partly the premise of Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias’ plan in Watchmen.

Put simply, if this were to happen to a white-supremacist..they’d no longer be inclined to think nonwhite people are anywhere near the worst thing out there:

BA81 said:

Basically humanity would need a common ‘other’ to unite against and thus require the dissolution of these prejudices; that was partly the premise of Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias’ plan in Watchmen.

Put simply, if this were to happen to a white-supremacist..they’d no longer be inclined to think nonwhite people are anywhere near the worst thing out there:

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melbcityguy said:

Well said so you think racist people are really in fear?

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I'm no expert but I would hazard to guess that it's a deep-seated, ingrained bias due to fear that evolved due to sound survival strategies starting some 400 000 (or more) years ago.

BA81 said:

Basically humanity would need a common ‘other’ to unite against and thus require the dissolution of these prejudices; that was partly the premise of Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias’ plan in Watchmen.

Put simply, if this were to happen to a white-supremacist..they’d no longer be inclined to think nonwhite people are anywhere near the worst thing out there:

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Fuck a duck, glad I haven't watched this movie.

Monoethnic Social Club said:

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Though it’s true that Hitler admired certain aspects of ‘Islamic culture’(in particular the stereotyped treatment of women), it still doesn’t change the fact that Nazi ideology decreed Arabs/Levantine peoples to be subhuman. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem would’ve realised this the hard way had the Axis won the war

From A league subreddit discord "the racist forum"

made me chuckle since we kind of have a thread where people complain about the racism on a league reddit

melbcityguy said:

Racism during the Liverpool match

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Thankfully the muppet was identified and ejected by police and he'll never be back. Did he think being in a wheelchair would see him have sympathy. The fact he rolled up right behind to say his peace shows how much intent there was.

melbcityguy said:

Racism during the Liverpool match

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yep, that bloke had no leg to stand on.

I am going to say that most racism is learned - either by personal experience of a number of people of a specific race giving a bad impression, or perhaps more commonly by being taught it from a young age as lessons of caution.

I grew up knowing that a pregnant gypsy girl would come to your door asking for a glass of water with some sugar in it. She would follow you into the kitchen and as long as she stirred the glass her accomplices knew they were safe to sneak into the house and steal stuff. I knew that gypsy men carry a handkerchief in their armpit because their sweat got into the hanky and they could drop it in front of a wary dog and the dog would then recognise their scent and not attack.

On a lighter and at the same time more serious note, a friend of my father's lived in New Guinea and wanted to keep his dog safe from being eaten. He put it in a sack, beat the crap out of it, and gave the sack to a native to open. The dog hated natives from that moment on.

I find it hard to consider any person from a country where it is accepted that women are treated as chattel or are not allowed to speak in public in a fair light. I know I have a predetermined opinion of 'that' sort of society and anyone from it is going to be prejudged by me. And I am aware of that prejudice and potential unfairness - but I would still not trust that society as a safe place to visit with my wife because in my head there is a likelihood of bad treatment. Can I call that fair racism or appropriate caution of a race? Farked if I know but I do not think it wrong to assume the worst in that case.

Silly as it seems, we adults can still be bound by the tales and warnings we were given as kids - to the extent that we sometimes aren't even aware of why we might have a level of distrust or fear about a person we have just met/seen.

The human brain extends to things like "you look like a friend/enemy of mine so my subconscious will trust/distrust you as a starting point", or "my best friend is Bob and your name is Bob so you have a foot in the door to start with" or its flipside "Bob is a thieving, lying prick and your name is Bob so I am forewarned".

Work with a few people from a particular country and all of them are lazy pricks and you will be surprised how quickly your brain then equates that race with laziness. Totally unfair - but as Muz says we are wired to learn and survive and we have to fight our nature at times since to some extent we no longer have to live or die based on how we handle every stranger we meet.

I imagine every town, state and country in the world has some other town, state or country that they cast aspersions on as being inbred - whether it is the two heads of Tassie or the country town 10k up the road where everyone is related.

It is no small thing that they say "you have to want to change" but it is equally no small measure to actually recognise in yourself the bias you may have without thinking and without being aware.