Favourite False Dawn of the Last 30 years + how was your SBS reception

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What's your favourite prelude to Australian football shooting itself in the foot?

 

[melbcityguy]

But del piero and the a league starting was successful?

 

[TheSelectFew]

But del piero and the a league starting was successful?

If it isn't sustained, it's a false dawn.

 

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If it isn't sustained, it's a false dawn.

Hence basically everything in our great games history meets the criteria

 

[TheSelectFew]

Hence basically everything in our great games history meets the criteria

Pretty much.

 

[grazorblade]

Hence basically everything in our great games history meets the criteria

By that standard u would have to put 2005 Uruguay and 2006 world cup in the list

 

[return_to_sender]

I only had space for 10. Honourable mention:

Newcastle United's crowds bolting
CFG buying in
Green team that will 'build a stadium's
Adelaide United
Crawford report
Letting Frank back in from the cold (covered that with AL1)
Nst (doesn't make the list because it's still on process of fucking up)
South Melbourne world club championship

 

[return_to_sender]

By that standard u would have to put 2005 Uruguay and 2006 world cup in the list

Only 10 spots available for a poll mate. So it's covered by WC Germany option

Haunting false dawn memory of how we thought we finally broke through seeing the roo baggers on Weetbix commercials in prime time saying "mate how many do you do"

And partly it's us. How many years pass between that and our own booing Lucas Neill when he's near the ball

 

[HappyGuus]

Carlton and Collingwood

 

[RoyalDave]

hmm.. don't know if channel 7 media deal counts because they never actually did anything - or do you count the 'vibe' at the announcement?

 

[grazorblade]

maybe the more positive spin is its been a painful process of 3 steps forward 1 step back. If the nst goes h&a that will be our next 3 steps forward, which begs the question - what colossal screwup will follow

 

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hmm.. don't know if channel 7 media deal counts because they never actually did anything - or do you count the 'vibe' at the announcement?

It was a bit of a "we're finally mainstream" hope at the time. But a lot of things mixed in - carlton and Collingwood, David FKN hill, etc etc, and it turned to shit very quickly. Especially when channel 7 is busted a few years later tabling court documents in litigation over AFL media rights which outright show channel 7 bought the sockah rights to kill it with a blackout

Just to put some context on this for the younger fellas. Back in these days, you needed a radar like fuckin pine gap on your roof to pick up SBS with a picture better than a snow storm. Being on a channel you could actually SEE was huge

 

[return_to_sender]

maybe the more positive spin is its been a painful process of 3 steps forward 1 step back. If the nst goes h&a that will be our next 3 steps forward, which begs the question - what colossal screwup will follow

I think the scale of it is more like 10 steps forward 9 back. Between now and 30 years ago, the only confirmed step forward we took domestically (imo) is paid professional domestic league. And even that is hanging by a thread.

 

[grazorblade]

I think the scale of it is more like 10 steps forward 9 back. Between now and 30 years ago, the only confirmed step forward we took domestically (imo) is paid professional domestic league. And even that is hanging by a thread.

move to asia seemed a decent one?

 

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move to asia seemed a decent one?

Really torn on that one because the positives and negatives seem to counter balance very often with the move to Asia

+ exposure to a continental commercial competition with star power in our time zone (ACL)
- it basically bankrupts our domestic clubs flying down their support staff for a match
- australians domestically just didn't get it

+++ connected to a predictable, consistent, fairer WC qualification path
- the ever hanging threat that the positions get redstributed and suddenly New Zealand has a guaranteed red carpet and we're still doing South America playoffs
- preferential treatment of a powerful middle east block

I think on balance Asia proves its worth to us, but fuck it aint cheap

 

[return_to_sender]

Another one not in the poll - Asian Cup win.

 

[grazorblade]

Really torn on that one because the positives and negatives seem to counter balance very often with the move to Asia

+ exposure to a continental commercial competition with star power in our time zone (ACL)
- it basically bankrupts our domestic clubs flying down their support staff for a match
- australians domestically just didn't get it

+++ connected to a predictable, consistent, fairer WC qualification path
- the ever hanging threat that the positions get redstributed and suddenly New Zealand has a guaranteed red carpet and we're still doing South America playoffs
- preferential treatment of a powerful middle east block

I think on balance Asia proves its worth to us, but fuck it aint cheap

I guess oceania means 7 meaningful matches in 4 years (with 4 against nz) assuming we make the world cup vs 25ish in asia

 

[TheSelectFew]

move to asia seemed a decent one?

This was mine too. I thought finally with decent competition we'd prove ourselves. We won the Asian Cup had a club win the ACL and the ACL2 and nothing. All three were huge moments and the MSM didn't give a shit.

I wonder if we hosted a WC if that would be a false dawn too. It seems we do something and never follow up.

 

[grazorblade]

This was mine too. I thought finally with decent competition we'd prove ourselves. We won the Asian Cup had a club win the ACL and the ACL2 and nothing. All three were huge moments and the MSM didn't give a shit.

I wonder if we hosted a WC if that would be a false dawn too. It seems we do something and never follow up.

there does seem to be some generational change despite things being at a low ebb right now

I remember when I stayed at my uncles house as a uni student if he caught me watching football he would yell at me to get that ^&*% off. Can't imagine someone 40 or younger being like that

 

[HappyGuus]

Back in these days, you needed a radar like fuckin pine gap on your roof to pick up SBS with a picture better than a snow storm.

My SBS picture would really clear up whenever I leant forward about 25 degrees, no more, no less. But put an arm out for the remote and it goes out of whack again. The key was to secure the remote before the viewing commenced. And this only worked when sitting in THE chair, not the other chairs.