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Green & Gold FC Podcast #8 – No Way Up w/ CoachRorySoccer

Excellent in depth content. Really enjoyable and insightful listen. The selection and even coups of certain guests so far has been top notch.

While conversational, some of the questions were very long winded. Not confusing but perhaps they could be broken down or more direct? For example 'What influence has the Hispanic community had on the sport in the US?'

Perhaps some of the long questions could be broken up into 3 parts but I know how it is as an English teacher when the person answers question 2 as their answer overlaps question 1 hence the back and forth and potential repetition of things by host and guest.

Again, top job guys.
 
JS96 said:
Excellent in depth content. Really enjoyable and insightful listen. The selection and even coups of certain guests so far has been top notch.

While conversational, some of the questions were very long winded. Not confusing but perhaps they could be broken down or more direct? For example 'What influence has the Hispanic community had on the sport in the US?'

Perhaps some of the long questions could be broken up into 3 parts but I know how it is as an English teacher when the person answers question 2 as their answer overlaps question 1 hence the back and forth and potential repetition of things by host and guest.

Again, top job guys.
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Sorry Grazor, I'm not trying to criticise but I see JS's point... Your questions are double-barrelled dude :P

(Alex small point, South Melbourne FC has NOT reverted back to being called Hellas .. it has been an unofficial nickname since the 90s and will probably stay that way)

Really loved the episode btw, Graham and Alex are both distinct enough in both view and personality to make it a real discussion, very well executed by the both of you.. Appreciate the diverse guests so far and must say it was refreshing to have an American legitimise my opinion that Aleague is really just MLS lite :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Keep up the effort guys...
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Sorry Grazor, I'm not trying to criticise but I see JS's point... Your questions are double-barrelled dude :P

(Alex small point, South Melbourne FC has NOT reverted back to being called Hellas .. it has been an unofficial nickname since the 90s and will probably stay that way)

Really loved the episode btw, Graham and Alex are both distinct enough in both view and personality to make it a real discussion, very well executed by the both of you.. Appreciate the diverse guests so far and must say it was refreshing to have an American legitimise my opinion that Aleague is really just MLS lite :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Keep up the effort guys...
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Yeah I heard that live and knew it was incorrect (as well as the preston bit), but his question was quite long and therefore would require him do it again lol.

Anyway thanks for the feedback. Anyway I've decided to leave the podcast. My feelings could change in the future but the amount of effort it takes for the small viewership we get doesn't seem worth it IMO.
 
Pasquali said:
Yeah I heard that live and knew it was incorrect (as well as the preston bit), but his question was quite long and therefore would require him do it again lol.

Anyway thanks for the feedback. Anyway I've decided to leave the podcast. My feelings could change in the future but the amount of effort it takes for the small viewership we get doesn't seem worth it IMO.
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Sorry to hear that Pasquali... Selfishly Id ask you to stick with it as we have so few avenues to hear about what is going in in our local game.... Understand if the juice isnt worth the squeeze though...
 
yeah I think it'd take about a year of consistency to get a bigger audience. The size of the audience isn't terrible for a start up though, with some episodes cracking 150+ and pretty much every episode cracking 70+ (I think 3 episodes have 250+ if you add youtube and pod numbers)

The show costs $45 USD an episode to produce. Without Pasquali's amazingly generous support we have to find some revenue streams. So we are thinking of starting a patreon and/or finding an editor who can do it for free/cheeper.

we are also looking to expand our team to plan episodes.
 
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Great work guys!

Have got 24 mins listen in the car.

For me, who knows nothing much about US football, apart the college system, when one of my kids was on a US college scholarshop, I know nothing about the US NSL. Really interesting info.

Good questions posed by Grazor and Alex too.
 
Pasquali said:
Yeah I heard that live and knew it was incorrect (as well as the preston bit), but his question was quite long and therefore would require him do it again lol.

Anyway thanks for the feedback. Anyway I've decided to leave the podcast. My feelings could change in the future but the amount of effort it takes for the small viewership we get doesn't seem worth it IMO.
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Thanks for what you have done thus far, Pasquali.
 
grazorblade said:
yeah I think it'd take about a year of consistency to get a bigger audience. The size of the audience isn't terrible for a start up though, with some episodes cracking 150+ and pretty much every episode cracking 70+ (I think 3 episodes have 250+ if you add youtube and pod numbers)

The show costs $45 USD an episode to produce. Without Pasquali's amazingly generous support we have to find some revenue streams. So we are thinking of starting a patreon and/or finding an editor who can do it for free/cheeper.

we are also looking to expand our team to plan episodes.
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Kudos Pascuali - understand your feelings - much like people at grass roots of didicated volunteers its a selfless task.
Appreciate the good support you have provided.

Graz so your needing around A$80 a cast is that right ?
Why not reach out here for with a forecast contribution budget per episode in advance as a thought ?
 
Responding to the podcast.

Look I've reiterated this on here and 442 over and over, over many years.

In response to Alex saying that the 4-3-3 is one system. It isn't. I'm not sure if I learned it in the FFA/FA C Licence, and various FFA National Conefrences as well, but it was hammered into us in the KNVB Youth Certificate ( C and B Licence content).

That the 4-3-3 incorporates:

* Midfield defensive and attacking triangles, plus the flat midfield. This is three manifestations of the 4-3-3.

* If one pushes the wingers back in a line with the number 10, the 4-3-3 defensive midfield triangle becomes a 4-2-3-1.

* If one pushes the wingers back in a line with the twin 10s in the attacking midfield triangle 4-3-3, it becomes a 4-5-1 with the 1:4 midfield.

* If one plays the flat midfield one can assume a 3-4-3. Change the midfield to a diamond, and it becomes the 3-4-3 midfield diamond, which is close to the 4-3-3 3:1 back line. Then we've all seen it evolve into both the 5-2-3 and 5-4-1 Popa uses.

* To push the two wingers back and inside in a flat midfield 4-3-3 becomes the 4-3-2-1.

The premise is, if one learns the 4-3-3 and all its variations, with the inherent triangles. then coaching a flat midfield 4-4-2, is easy. Ditto the bowl shaped midfield 4-4-2 and the diamond midfield 4-4-2.

Also, the incremental methodology used to impart these these formations to coaches, extrapolates to other formations.

Using our national system, the only formations I don't feel like I've been trained for, is the 3-5-2 midfield triangle and the 4-3-1-2. Even the 4-2-2-2, with the withdrawn striker and twin number Tens, is part of the 4-3-3 system.

I just can't work out why so may coaches who have said they've done C and B Licences in Aus, posting online, don't seem to be aware of this? Whether the instructors you've had have not rammed this home, or you've been daydreaming when it was presented?

This is so comprehensive compared to the old days when the common formation was the 4-4-2.
 
Another point made by Alex. He said he was grasping for content to coach younger players. I was the same. The KNVB thought the average football coach in Aus, knew far more than we did! Later Berger put heaps of superb exercises into a handbook to disseminate.

I think it wasn't until I'd done a rep coaches impromptu course by the state SAP head honcho, I really learned about how to analyse technique, by breaking it into 4 areas -

first touch,

striking the ball,

running with the ball,

1v1 attacking and defensive skills.

There were heaps of rep coaches attending, but only 4 of us had undertaken the recent C Licence.

I then did the basic Grass Root Certificate ( just a few hours), which most suburban coaches have done, and these 4 aspects of technique, were rammed home.
 
LFC said:
Kudos Pascuali - understand your feelings - much like people at grass roots of didicated volunteers its a selfless task.
Appreciate the good support you have provided.

Graz so your needing around A$80 a cast is that right ?
Why not reach out here for with a forecast contribution budget per episode in advance as a thought ?
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That's a good idea I might make a new thread on forecasting

we need $45 USD an episode so about $90 a month if we do 2 episodes. I can probably cover 30 myself starting july (and maybe I can figure out a way to cover 30 a month for 3 months before then. It is only 3 months). That is indeed 71 AUD an episode or 142 per month

If we do 3 episodes a month that of course is 210 a month
 
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Decentric said:
Responding to the podcast.

Look I've reiterated this on here and 442 over and over, over many years.

In response to Alex saying that the 4-3-3 is one system. It isn't. I'm not sure if I learned it in the FFA/FA C Licence, and various FFA National Conefrences as well, but it was hammered into us in the KNVB Youth Certificate ( C and B Licence content).

That the 4-3-3 incorporates:

* Midfield defensive and attacking triangles, plus the flat midfield. This is three manifestations of the 4-3-3.

* If one pushes the wingers back in a line with the number 10, the 4-3-3 defensive midfield triangle becomes a 4-2-3-1.

* If one pushes the wingers back in a line with the twin 10s in the attacking midfield triangle 4-3-3, it becomes a 4-5-1 with the 1:4 midfield.

* If one plays the flat midfield one can assume a 3-4-3. Change the midfield to a diamond, and it becomes the 3-4-3 midfield diamond, which is close to the 4-3-3 3:1 back line. Then we've all seen it evolve into both the 5-2-3 and 5-4-1 Popa uses.

* To push the two wingers back and inside in a flat midfield 4-3-3 becomes the 4-3-2-1.

The premise is, if one learns the 4-3-3 and all its variations, with the inherent triangles. then coaching a flat midfield 4-4-2, is easy. Ditto the bowl shaped midfield 4-4-2 and the diamond midfield 4-4-2.

Also, the incremental methodology used to impart these these formations to coaches, extrapolates to other formations.

Using our national system, the only formations I don't feel like I've been trained for, is the 3-5-2 midfield triangle and the 4-3-1-2. Even the 4-2-2-2, with the withdrawn striker and twin number Tens, is part of the 4-3-3 system.

I just can't work out why so may coaches who have said they've done C and B Licences in Aus, posting online, don't seem to be aware of this? Whether the instructors you've had have not rammed this home, or you've been daydreaming when it was presented?

This is so comprehensive compared to the old days when the common formation was the 4-4-2.
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Alex's anecdote that he shouldn't go to a 4-2-3-1 because it would confuse them was perhaps the most interesting part of the episode for me. It is consistent with Aloisi's experience where he was given very rigid instructions and was told it has to be a 4-3-3. As you say it is easy to adapt a 4-3-3 to other systems but we do keep hearing people are being forbidden that and given surprisingly rigid instructions which you wouldn't get in knvb. Aloisi appears to be quite a talented coach who is doing well with a young team, so at least in some cases, if not most, it appears to be a problem on the side of the instructors

"I just can't work out why so may coaches who have said they've done C and B Licences in Aus, posting online, don't seem to be aware of this? Whether the instructors you've had have not rammed this home, or you've been daydreaming when it was presented?"

This seems very harsh. From the anecdote Alex was very aware that you can adapt a 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1 but was told not to. Same with Aloisi (who also seems to prefer 4-4-2 with bovinovski and thurgate as the mids). For some reason, this appears to be a common story. By the sounds of it, you were given less rigid instructions which is great! Obviously I'm not there when people are doing their coaching courses, but it looks like an instructor side problem to me because the stories are pretty consistent.

I'm curious what @zimbos05 experience was
 
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