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The Australian Championship Thread

Glenardo said:
I recall a grand final between Sydney Olympic and Sydney United at Belmore in 2011 where the crowd figure was quoted as over 10,000 all the more impressive because that’s as probably in the era where traditional clubs were most in the wilderness. It was a sunny day etc etc but crowds like that, or the 4000+ at the Olympic v south Melbourne friendly show that there is a lot of potential to be harnessed.
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Exactly that brother... tapping into it correctly and smartly is the want now. No repeat of past mistakes hopefully.
Glenardo said:
Would be good if they were able to develop that facility they mention in the interview. For reference for Melb people the plot of land he mentions they have their eye on for a facility would be somewhat in the vicinity of where Marconi and Sydney united are currently located
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If they are clever and it r a mains close to their base then perhaps its also a casenof built it and they will come?
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
You are more than spot on, it was the closest thing to overall success of the sport here, it was based on the need for football to remain a truly community sport, strength in the grass roots is what works the world over, we for some reason chose to forget all that, in order to compete with some sports that (kept theirs community ties) sold on the idea of hope on something called mainstream...

Mind you I, by no means mean that the NSL shouldve survived in that form either, it had its own problems and challenges etc, I do honestly believe though that the transition that was taking place in the later years, especially seen with the success of Perth, Spirit etc which were still community centric clubs based in roots, was the right path to grow the league and incorporate all ( yes i know in hindsight its always easier). This would then have let the clubs be driven by success and failure.. If this had taken place with openess (no one ever blocked wollongong, perth, carlton, collingwood and so many others from giving it a go away from the traditional ethnic clubs) we now would already have 2 functioning divisions and a much healthier football reality!

A revival is clearly needed, and above all warranted, but it will take a looooot of work to make sure it is sustainable on our end, and it needs to be for the good of the game overall, and all of us involved in it as a whole, if done correct its more than to the aleagues benefit also even if it does have to be pushed/forced upon them.

For me personally a strong second tier supported by the aleague with some promised date even in the future of the hopes of a playoff for pormotion and relegation would allow me to view that league in a different light and bridge my stern refusal to engage with it.

Thats all most of us even ask for, and thats the funny part of this whole thing..
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As I’ve always said, potentially an unpopular centrist position amongst some, but I have nothing against the formation of clubs like Sydney fc, western Sydney wanderers or Melbourne victory..there was clearly a demand for a non ethnically affiliated club in those cities where ethnically affiliated clubs had long donated the sport, but not at the expense of the traditional clubs, I think they could have coexisted. But as you say, hindsight etc

The original attempts with clubs like carlton or northern spirit might have worked better if they were Melbourne victory and Sydney fc.

I have no such sympathy for the creation of clubs like western united or Macathur though..they offer nothing that existing clubs couldn’t have..and with less authenticity. And anyone who knows the sport in this country could have seen that from a mile away
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
I would like to hear such a candid interview from each and every one of the foundation clubs presidents prior to the start of the championship! We can all perhaps get the different perspectives and issues that plague each of our clubs and find common solutions for the best of the new league.
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They should make it into a youtube mini-series about the establishment of the Championship and the first season!

This is a playlist of the eight foundation clubs' leaders speaking at the launch:

 
Glenardo said:
As I’ve always said, potentially an unpopular centrist position amongst some, but I have nothing against the formation of clubs like Sydney fc, western Sydney wanderers or Melbourne victory..there was clearly a demand for a non ethnically affiliated club in those cities where ethnically affiliated clubs had long donated the sport, but not at the expense of the traditional clubs, I think they could have coexisted. But as you say, hindsight etc
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I can agree totally with this aswell.. the 'well was poisoned' by the method of execution for me and the beilef system that led to it and still remains in place, unfortunately!
Glenardo said:
The original attempts with clubs like carlton or northern spirit might have worked better if they were Melbourne victory and Sydney fc.
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As was ultimately proven it was irrelevent to most of us from traditional clubs, who it would be, as long as it created a healthy new rivalry, which it surely wouldve on and off the field, to add to the exisitng ones..

I will put it best way i can....., I have 2 boys that are South crazy like their old man (yep its the most correct upbringing i could give them 🤣) who are already imagining what away days will be like at the likes of Olympic etc. A new experience to compliment exisitng NPL rivalries.. I can only imagine how much better it would have been if along with those traditional rivalries, we also had the cross over of the rivalries we can only now see with a deep run in the Au Cup!
 
Glenardo said:
I recall a grand final between Sydney Olympic and Sydney United at Belmore in 2011 where the crowd figure was quoted as over 10,000 all the more impressive because that’s as probably in the era where traditional clubs were most in the wilderness. It was a sunny day etc etc but crowds like that, or the 4000+ at the Olympic v south Melbourne friendly show that there is a lot of potential to be harnessed.

Would be good if they were able to develop that facility they mention in the interview. For reference for Melb people the plot of land he mentions they have their eye on for a facility would be somewhat in the vicinity of where Marconi and Sydney united are currently located
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Glenardo said:
Quite the character this man is for those who aren’t aware
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He doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks and never has. This is what non franchise club autonomy & solid decades long administration does, you don't have to answer to anyone nor have to bow down to the corporate dollar.
 
Glenardo said:
As I’ve always said, potentially an unpopular centrist position amongst some, but I have nothing against the formation of clubs like Sydney fc, western Sydney wanderers or Melbourne victory..there was clearly a demand for a non ethnically affiliated club in those cities where ethnically affiliated clubs had long donated the sport, but not at the expense of the traditional clubs, I think they could have coexisted. But as you say, hindsight etc

The original attempts with clubs like carlton or northern spirit might have worked better if they were Melbourne victory and Sydney fc.

I have no such sympathy for the creation of clubs like western united or Macathur though..they offer nothing that existing clubs couldn’t have..and with less authenticity. And anyone who knows the sport in this country could have seen that from a mile away
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I dont think anyone really has ANY issue with the formation of the Aleague clubs.... Its the way the existing clubs and fans were discarded that grates.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Sad thing is that NOBODY from FA present that day and driving this competition is still working there.
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I am telling you .... they still HATE the mono-ethnic clubs ..... the irony is that much of the hate comes from what anthropologist Ghassan Hage once (ironically) labelled as 'Good tolerant Multi-culturalists'.

I would love to be in a room with these new 'leaders'. I have (legitimate!) ways of extracting this truth from them.
 
Son of Sam said:
So the NSW is the most interesting one.

Probably either Rockdale or NWS Spirit.

Rockdale would be in same group as Preston.
NWS Spirit being the OLD Northern Spirit
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Hoping it is Rockdale, a Macedonian derby as a home opener for Preston would be a great occasion for the comp and community.

Would also be the same weekend as the south Melbourne v Sydney Olympic home opener for the greek community
 
Glenardo said:
Hoping it is Rockdale, a Macedonian derby as a home opener for Preston would be a great occasion for the comp and community.

Would also be the same weekend as the south Melbourne v Sydney Olympic home opener for the greek community
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Not fussed as to who gets that spot, but from a historical perspective Spirit would bring back some memories!
 
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Hellenic_blue&white said:
Not fussed as to who gets that spot, but from a historical perspective Spirit would bring back some memories!
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They’re only kinda the same spirit as northern spirit. Theres a connection but I believe they’re a new separate community club of which the basis was the left overs of northern spirits youth academy. They’ve been in the lower tiers up until very recently
 
Glenardo said:
They’re only kinda the same spirit as northern spirit. Theres a connection but I believe they’re a new separate community club of which the basis was the left overs of northern spirits youth academy. They’ve been in the lower tiers up until very recently
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Thank for the info... I didnt know! Either way Rockdale look thebmost likely and from what im told play some good football and carry decent crowds which is overall what we want to see...
Will be a very tough group that one either way!
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
Thank for the info... I didnt know! Either way Rockdale look thebmost likely and from what im told play some good football and carry decent crowds which is overall what we want to see...
Will be a very tough group that one either way!
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I dare say Rockdale would likely have some sort of travelling support for that game too
 
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