The psychology of the left wing cranks

[The Flying Bat]

Why is 'the Left' called 'loony” or 'cranks'? Why is 'left'considered as somehow not right? And what makes them so defensive when discussing opposite views? Why do they sometimes simultaneously reserve the right to be different while also expecting others to be like them? Is it always just different political views or are there more deeper fundamental psychological differences that make those views appealing to them in the first place?

Perhaps they just want to conform to the socially acceptable narrative?

The left today is like the teenager who wants to save the world but cannot take the garbage outside. What happens when the teenager rebels? They demand revolution, they just do not accept responsibility and say its actual state is somebody else's fault, feels like a victim. So for many the promises of the left are very appealing. They say don't worry it's not you, the problem is not that you won't be responsible and consequently grow up, it's the system and you are a victim. No wonder why the inexperienced hipster youth is the most attracted.....

It reminds me of the essay "Marx, Revolution and the Legacy of Utopian Socialism: A Critical Outline" It describes how Marx who seemed to have an adaptability issue rebelled first against his father, then against religion, then against philosophy and eventually developed 'a critique of everything'. So, perhaps psychology does seem to have something to do with the idea of 'change at all costs'....

Or are they just generally weird??

 

[vo2Max]

Why is 'the Left' called 'loony” or 'cranks'? Why is 'left'considered as somehow not right? And what makes them so defensive when discussing opposite views? Why do they sometimes simultaneously reserve the right to be different while also expecting others to be like them? Is it always just different political views or are there more deeper fundamental psychological differences that make those views appealing to them in the first place?

Perhaps they just want to conform to the socially acceptable narrative?

The left today is like the teenager who wants to save the world but cannot take the garbage outside. What happens when the teenager rebels? They demand revolution, they just do not accept responsibility and say its actual state is somebody else's fault, feels like a victim. So for many the promises of the left are very appealing. They say don't worry it's not you, the problem is not that you won't be responsible and consequently grow up, it's the system and you are a victim. No wonder why the inexperienced hipster youth is the most attracted.....

It reminds me of the essay "Marx, Revolution and the Legacy of Utopian Socialism: A Critical Outline" It describes how Marx who seemed to have an adaptability issue rebelled first against his father, then against religion, then against philosophy and eventually developed 'a critique of everything'. So, perhaps psychology does seem to have something to do with the idea of 'change at all costs'....

Or are they just generally weird??

It's an interesting subject.

I believe there's certainly a deep underlying volatility with these people, hence the constant lashing out when presented with alternate views. Possibly due to a series of sad events during childhood?

 

[The Flying Bat]

It's an interesting subject.

I believe there's certainly a deep underlying volatility with these people, hence the constant lashing out when presented with alternate views. Possibly due to a series of sad events during childhood?

Yep.There's a definite correlation with what they may have experienced during their childhood and the way they view everything through the prism of social injustice in their adult lives.....

It could be said that Oxford Street Muz is a classic example of this.

And maybe one or two of his humourless sycophants on the forum too....

 

[The Bird]

I'm told it's just plain laziness.
Whilst I'm not convinced, it does explain a lot.

 

[The Flying Bat]

I'm told it's just plain laziness.

I'm not so sure birdy....

I think these hipster-leftie kids put a lot of effort into their political naivety. They certainly put a lot of effort into their internet tantrums.....

 

[melbcityguy]

Younweordos would like this

 

[erogenouszone]

Or are they just generally weird??

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[The Flying Bat]

Pot. Kettle. Black?

A malopropism perhaps?

Err... genius zone at work again....

2/10

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

 

[Decentric]

I'm a 'left wing crank'.

I'm a full on political activist. Those right wing weirdos who have stalked me over 15 years well know - of course not any regulars from the old IS/442 forum are involved in stalking.

I've got Flying Bat and VO2 Max on Ignore function, but happened to see this thread title before I logged in.

Essentially, the vast majority of left wing political activists and members of leftist political parties, are idealists. They want a fairer and more equitable society. They want to see poverty eradicated. Moreover, they want to see the planet survive, plus many threatened animal and plant species preserved.

If this is the definition of a left wing crank, from what one of my fellow posters in this thread defines as ' right wing nut jobs', then I'm proud to be what right wing nut jobs define as left wing cranks!

We discuss it a bit in leftist pressure groups. I'm an office bearer of one state organisation and I'm on the organising committee of the retired section of a national organisation, representing nearly 2 million Aussies.

We think right wing nut jobs share a great deal of fear, and exude vast amounts of cynicism. They don't believe that people are capable of good turns to each other for altruistic reasons - that there always has to be a selfish motive or financial gain in any interaction.

Rather than discuss these issues online, with recalcitrant right wingers, I spend far more time constructively involved in demonstrations and marches, public fund raisers, public film showings, door knocking, hosting stalls at shopping centres and markets, letter boxing, writing letters to papers and MPs, wobbleboarding/car honking, phone banking, formal meeting with MPs, with some social media activity setting up pages in support of just causes.

Anarchy Forum, where Flying Bat (haven't quite worked out his former moniker - yet), VO2 Max ( Chips Rafferty) and Bird ( The Birdman) frequented, tended to have an assembly of right wing nut jobs. They shared common values of being anti- Football Fed Aus and Football Aus. Many of these RWNJs were also racist, misogynistic, ageist, and inherently conservative.

For the record, Muz is not any sort of weirdo as Flying Bat claims. Muz stands up for just causes. He is typical of many progressive political activists, progressive members of parliament, and many members of the public, that political progressives meet regularly on the campaign trail.

On the campaign trail face to face, I've met few right wing nut jobs. I was abused once by a National Socialist handing out leaflets in a mall once, but over many years of doing this, the biggest right wing nut jobs I've encountered frequented Anarchy Forum. Maybe RWNJs don't like discussing issues face to face in public?

 

[vo2Max]

I'm an office bearer of one state organisation and I'm on the organising committee of the retired section of a national organisation, representing nearly 2 million Aussies.

Two million, lol.

There's about six of them (or bored old union tragics who like to wobble boards).

Classic Decentric speak.

 

[The Flying Bat]

Two million, lol.

There's about six of them (or bored old union tragics who like to wobble boards).

Classic Decentric speak.

Ol' mate seems to know a lot about us 'trolls' from football anarchy.

What was his username there?

Was it Colinoscophy??

 

[The Flying Bat]

For the record, Muz is not any sort of weirdo as Flying Bat claims.

Says he's got me on ignore and can't see my posts, yet knows all about what I've posted.

Silly ol fool.....

 

[The Bird]

Decentric.
This is the second time (that I know of) that you have accused me of being someone else and that I'm a right wing nut job etc.
Please point to a post of mine to back your claims. I don't post a lot but I do like to read. To that end, I read your narcissistic rubbish when I first came here - your attempt to stifle debate through Draconian moderation after failing to convince admin to make you a moderator demonstrated to me that you are the type of person I do not wish to engage with. I have no interest in your opinions or your grandstanding.
The Bird.

 

[vo2Max]

Decentric.
This is the second time (that I know of) that you have accused me of being someone else and that I'm a right wing nut job etc.
Please point to a post of mine to back your claims. I don't post a lot but I do like to read. To that end, I read your narcissistic rubbish when I first came here - your attempt to stifle debate through Draconian moderation after failing to convince admin to make you a moderator demonstrated to me that you are the type of person I do not wish to engage with. I have no interest in your opinions or your grandstanding.
The Bird.

His outrageous "jogo bonito" multi on another forum has left me permanently scared. I refrain from posting a link as I consider it in the highest category of NSFW.

I have no doubt poor Pasquale's inbox gets filled daily with old mate's grievances.

 

[Decentric]

Decentric.
This is the second time (that I know of) that you have accused me of being someone else and that I'm a right wing nut job etc.
Please point to a post of mine to back your claims. I don't post a lot but I do like to read. To that end, I read your narcissistic rubbish when I first came here - your attempt to stifle debate through Draconian moderation after failing to convince admin to make you a moderator demonstrated to me that you are the type of person I do not wish to engage with. I have no interest in your opinions or your grandstanding.
The Bird.

Birdman was a moderator on the right wing cesspit, Anarchy Forum.

Given whenever I've seen you post on G and G, you follow around the former most politically extreme right wing members of Anarchy, your DNA is highly suspicious, given Birdman always posts with a Bird in his profile everywhere he posts on the interweb.

There is difference between proffering advice as to an ideal paradigm for Moderation, and, wanting to be one on G and G FC.

I, like many posters, desperately want G and G FC to succeed. It may be the case a person is busy enough elsewhere , without undertaking more moderation duties, despite being experienced in the role.

Also, progressive political activism, takes up a lot of time. 'Left wing cranks' rely on people power and teamwork to advance progressive causes. Those on the right of politics, have the rich and powerful able to throw money to support their unjust causes.

For the record, the Birdman on Anarchy forum is the worst Moderator I've encountered - presiding over bigotry, homophobia, ageism, racism, doxing, stalking, anti-unionism, cronyism, misogyny, et al. He fostered toxicity and animosity as core values in his agitating Mod role. If you are not said nefarious Birdman, of Anarchy infamy, and I see your posts engage constructively with the G and G forum in general, I'll apologise in due course.

Funny to find you participating in a deliberate thread to troll those who hold progressive views, with the progenitor of the thread being a right wing nut job. If you are not the Anarchy Birdman, you could extol your credentials by countering some of the the extreme right wing nut job views promulgated by the thread author and his conservative acolytes and sycophants. I won't hold my breath.

 

[vo2Max]

^

there's a 241 page active thread on that other forum dedicated solely to your abhorrent behaviours champ.

Your 'jogo bonito" multi was the most unimaginably disgusting figure to have ever graced a forum.

But I will give you credit for confessing to owning that multi, following some substantial pressure by the then moderators.

 

[The Flying Bat]

Horrible stuff completely horrific in fact.

The D file could easily be transferred from football anarchy and reposted on another forum.

Wouldn't take long.