Toure - our best CF prospect since Viduka?

[Bunch_of_hacks]

What are we up to now in the " ........... is the next Viduka" count? Must be at least 30 players associated with that headline?

Best prospect SINCE Viduka

 

[Bunch_of_hacks]

This is a different headline to be fair

He does have the 3rd best start to his career in Europe in our history if I'm not mistaken?

Still a big gap between him and viduka/aloisi at the same age, but probably worth noting he is ahead of Kennedy and mcdonald

You could argue its 10x harder to break into those leagues now than when Aloisi and Dukes were around.

But he is on a similar trajectory. They sold their last forward to West Brom so there is a pathway there but I'd rather see him go to a bigger club in Belgium or France rather than England just yet.

Not sure what pulling him out of the club to play u23s does. He should be a socceroos option now imo.

I agree.. Back then clubs prioritised cultural adaptibility over player quality eg English clubs buying English speakers, Italian ubs with Italian speakers, as well as there were simply less foreigners in the big leagues. The big 4 leagues have almost become super leagues, very rare now for an ajax, Porto, even less Red star or Bucharest or Aberdeen to win the champions league.

In case of Aloisi he spoke fluent English and Italian, and held aussie and Italian passports making him very attractive to British and Italian clubs.. Ditto Viduka with Croatian and British clubs.

 

[LFC]

I get its not comparing apples with apples so to speak but in the end no matter having dual passports/or 2nd language still comes down to quality over cultural adpatability for crying out loud.
Clubs they ended up with abroad were either winners/winning or right up there contesting and don't tell me the competition wasn't massive - it would have been for the times plain and simple......
Being aussies from far far away and such the minnow we were incl not in the news made it much harder than today.
Sure the talent pool has spread alot more but its never easy/easier no matter the time/decade.

The cream always gets noticed bubbling to the top no matter the time place.
What we have just isn't showing the signs bubbling to the top plain and simple in the big/gger bad world.
Tennis another eg.
Just not good enough OR is it the lack of numbers we have had in the development pool the last 22yrs ?
Numbers fellas numbers is one main thing today.

 

[Mr Cleansheets]

I actually thought so at the time- Babalj had the same laid back self composure as Viduka, and a similar style on the ball. All an illusion of course as his career went nowhere.

Babalj had about two months of looking absolutely devastating for City (or was it Heart back then). I particularly remember a header he scored diving away from the goal - I can't begin to say how difficult that is to do.

God knows what happened to him. I remember thinking that the less radical his haircut, the worse he played.

 

[superpolska]

Which toure? Answer is no regardless

 

[Richie]

We gonna beat China grazor? Add to our thrashing of Indonesia. Socceroos now brimming with confidence and insisting they will earn a spot in the 2026 World Cup.

One minor rant. What happened to our classy gold jumpers. The current one of yellow with aquamarine stripes is oh so ordinary as style goes. And who decided that this blue/green was suddenly our national color when bottle green has always been.

@grazorblade

 

[Richie]

Is this 2-0 win over China a big deal grazor or do the Socceroos need more to qualify?
@grazorblade

 

[Richie]

Haha yeah the new kits aren't popular

Football is really unpredictable and home ground advantage is huge

Poppa has gone for a weaker squad partly due to injuries and partly because he wants players who know him enough to implement a complicated game plan

It worked a treat last game, pressure is on for it to work again. If we win and Japan win we are almost home

Thanks for response

 

[grazorblade]

Is this 2-0 win over China a big deal grazor or do the Socceroos need more to qualify?
@grazorblade

Yeah it means that out of 27 possible results next round,we qualify in 24 of them

Away wins are tough, we got one away win the last to times we were in the third round of qualifying, so a huge result

 

[Barca4life]

I agree.. Back then clubs prioritised cultural adaptibility over player quality eg English clubs buying English speakers, Italian ubs with Italian speakers, as well as there were simply less foreigners in the big leagues. The big 4 leagues have almost become super leagues, very rare now for an ajax, Porto, even less Red star or Bucharest or Aberdeen to win the champions league.

In case of Aloisi he spoke fluent English and Italian, and held aussie and Italian passports making him very attractive to British and Italian clubs.. Ditto Viduka with Croatian and British clubs.

I would to see more Aussies try their luck in those kind of leagues, otherwise it will just limit on their club choices of language.

 

[verrelli]

Socceroos solutions: Where is the next great Australian goal scorer?

After an undeniably successful international window, the Socceroos are on the doorstep of World Cup qualification. But their first-choice number nine is yet to reveal himself. These are the centre-forwards vying to lead Australia's line.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Quicky]

Socceroos solutions: Where is the next great Australian goal scorer?

After an undeniably successful international window, the Socceroos are on the doorstep of World Cup qualification. But their first-choice number nine is yet to reveal himself. These are the centre-forwards vying to lead Australia's line.

www.abc.net.au

Any article that doesn't have Mohamed Toure as an option is hard to take seriously. Also missed Stamatelopolous, Iredale, Waddingham, Jovanovic, Goodwin. ABC sucks at football which is ironic given their flagship sports program is called the offsiders. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Robbos]

Any article that doesn't have Mohamed Toure as an option is hard to take seriously. Also missed Stamatelopolous, Iredale, Waddingham, Jovanovic, Goodwin. ABC sucks at football which is ironic given their flagship sports program is called the offsiders. Thanks for sharing!

You can be offside in Rugby union/League. However, I get your drift on ABC.

 

[Frankly Speaking]

I can remember when Babalj was hailed as "the next Viduka". Whatever happened to him?

Babalj was an odd one. He looked so promising early, played for Australia at what, 20? Then, nothing.

 

[verrelli]

Any article that doesn't have Mohamed Toure as an option is hard to take seriously. Also missed Stamatelopolous, Iredale, Waddingham, Jovanovic, Goodwin. ABC sucks at football which is ironic given their flagship sports program is called the offsiders. Thanks for sharing!

I had much the same thought mate!

 

[jas88]

I agree.. Back then clubs prioritised cultural adaptibility over player quality eg English clubs buying English speakers, Italian ubs with Italian speakers, as well as there were simply less foreigners in the big leagues.

That's a very good point and probably a big reason some of the guys like Degenek can do so well in Europe speaking multiples language is a huge plus. The Toure boys have all spent time in France, can they speak French? Would be huge if they could get fluent, opens alot more doors and sometimes can help English clubs then bring in French players if they got some guys to translate.

I can't remember an aussie forward consistently scoring in Europe for a long long long time. We need to learn how to get the most of out of him. For reference the biggest club(Copenhagen) has Claesson who has less goals than Toure in the league.