Football fan culture means cultural diversity

[Hellenic_blue&white]

You mean the Anglo convicts bit, the shit food or the single handedly building the country or the woke channel 10 stuff.

That's not a chip on his shoulder, that's half a ute load of timber.

Muz, the great thing with the enlightenment was it brought about free thought to the western world without fear of persecution (well, on paper anyway!), and unlike the dark ages, opinions could now be formulated based upon "lived truths and prespectives" and shared..by all means feel free to debunk any of what i wrote on the facts though!

 

[Hellenic_blue&white]

Just to further "feed" the point here is a spill from glenroybakery the famous "AU pie maker" you know the national food here... and i quote "While Australia certainly claimed ownership of this gastronomic alchemy of meat, gravy and pastry, meat pies have roots to ancient Greece and Rome. There's something to be said about the way our country embraces the meat pie. It's not just a food; it's part of the culture and you can't have one without the other." .... Now thats culture!!

 

[TheSelectFew]

The fans in question should be seeking a public apology from that wanker Vince Rugari.

Bloke is such a c_nt. I hope he gets sued into bankruptcy.

 

[TheSelectFew]

He once said of me on Twitter/X that I ‘always gave off lowkey-cooked vibes’ to him(don’t ask, it’s a bit of a long story) which is about as projection-101 as it gets, really ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄

He literally has a meme of himself as his pfp.

 

[erogenouszone]

our country embraces the meat pie

As a true blue Aussie I have to say that a curry pie and a cappuccino is the best on a cold morning. Also as a true blue Aussie I acknowledge that those flavour aren't in the least Australian.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

As a true blue Aussie I have to say that a curry pie and a cappuccino is the best on a cold morning. Also as a true blue Aussie I acknowledge that those flavour aren't in the least Australian.

Most Australian food of all Australian foods is a gyros and greek coffee after a heavy night on the turps.

 

[Hellenic_blue&white]

All banter aside, i think we would all agree that 'history drives culture', and this isnt truer than in football, especially here in Oz.
This is also the primary reason i believe there continues to be such a divide with 'old and new football' in this country and no cross hatch in sight. The old have a culture that dates back, pride in it if you will, and the new trying to build on non existent foundations or very little at best..(only so far the anti efnik card could get you anyway).
I remain staunch in the idea that the game here wouldve benefited greatly from 2 things, one was pro/rel open to all and let the cream rise to the top and second was more rivalries - old vs new, old vs old and new vs new the more the merrier..thats where the afl got it right years ago, swans to sydney fitzroy to brisbane etc.. they carried a history with them.
This wouldve allowed a proper football culture to thrive for all and without limitations!

 

[LFC]

sure some good points mate.
Though saying afl got it right maybe far enough, the 2nd sydney team isn't setting records so syd market maybe caters for 1 same applies for brizzy.
NRL has done similar with 2 staunch Syd clubs, Balmain merged with another old club Wests re located western syd and St George dragons down the gong with Illawarra.
Can't say they have been that successful.
Balmain struggles to no end, lost alot of its core support, Dragons not much better.
Oh they come out IF they win regularly though both clubs have struggled for years and years.
Would SMH work if they had to make the move to Briz or Syd ?
Prob due to the greek pop but it sure wouldn't go down well with you guys.

 

[southoftheyarra]

sure some good points mate.
Though saying afl got it right maybe far enough, the 2nd sydney team isn't setting records so syd market maybe caters for 1 same applies for brizzy.
NRL has done similar with 2 staunch Syd clubs, Balmain merged with another old club Wests re located western syd and St George dragons down the gong with Illawarra.
Can't say they have been that successful.
Balmain struggles to no end, lost alot of its core support, Dragons not much better.
Oh they come out IF they win regularly though both clubs have struggled for years and years.
Would SMH work if they had to make the move to Briz or Syd ?
Prob due to the greek pop but it sure wouldn't go down well with you guys.

I think relocation would totally kill the club.

 

[Hellenic_blue&white]

sure some good points mate.
Though saying afl got it right maybe far enough, the 2nd sydney team isn't setting records so syd market maybe caters for 1 same applies for brizzy.
NRL has done similar with 2 staunch Syd clubs, Balmain merged with another old club Wests re located western syd and St George dragons down the gong with Illawarra.
Can't say they have been that successful.
Balmain struggles to no end, lost alot of its core support, Dragons not much better.
Oh they come out IF they win regularly though both clubs have struggled for years and years.
Would SMH work if they had to make the move to Briz or Syd ?
Prob due to the greek pop but it sure wouldn't go down well with you guys.

LFC I wholeheartedly agree, and you are spot on in every way, some of those failures are purely performance related some are sheer overkill in one city/sport... my point was more that the thinking in the afl worked with clubs already struggling but which had some footing to build on.. not that there arent failures even in that pathway. In hindsight i just think we got it all wrong in our code.

The SMFC relocation question is interesting though... personally, i would hate my beloved team to move anywhere let alone interstate, but... perhaps if an aleague licence was granted on proviso that the club plays some games say in tassie and the rest here i think it wouldve been quite interesting to see the fans reaction to that prosepct...

May i remind Sfmc tried to buy the NZ licence, which if im not mistaken stipulated (some)games there even to try sell it from memory!

Not that we wouldve agreetheo that either! We have reached the all or nothing phase of support now! NST pro/rel and open league .. thats the want!

 

[BA81]

All banter aside, i think we would all agree that 'history drives culture', and this isnt truer than in football, especially here in Oz.
This is also the primary reason i believe there continues to be such a divide with 'old and new football' in this country and no cross hatch in sight. The old have a culture that dates back, pride in it if you will, and the new trying to build on non existent foundations or very little at best..(only so far the anti efnik card could get you anyway).
I remain staunch in the idea that the game here wouldve benefited greatly from 2 things, one was pro/rel open to all and let the cream rise to the top and second was more rivalries - old vs new, old vs old and new vs new the more the merrier..thats where the afl got it right years ago, swans to sydney fitzroy to brisbane etc.. they carried a history with them.
This wouldve allowed a proper football culture to thrive for all and without limitations!

A reply I posted in a thread on the old forum a while back touches upon a bit of this also(apologies in advance, you’ll need to scroll down the page a bit to find it): https://forum.insidesport.com.au/3109385/RE-Just-how-Skint-is-the-APL?PageIndex=10#bm3123752

But cutting through to the of the matter, the sad fact remains that FFA/APL over the past 2 decades have been hellbent on razing the game’s history in this country to the ground, whilst cherry-picking the bits of it(ie. the ‘74 Socceroos and Johnny Warren’s legacy) that could be appropriated for their whole ‘broad-basing of ️’ agenda; never mind that were JW still w/us & w/his faculties intact, he def wouldn’t want a bar of being linked to this BS..

I’ve said my piece on this elsewhere(X, YouTube vid replies etc.) countless times, and I’ve had ppl gaslight me accusing me of “being racist against skips’ involvement in ️“ or whathaveyou..which I’m def not of course, but nor do I make any apologies for no longer being an unwavering toady of “New Football“ either..