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what - baccus is playing as a right inside forward, just looked at his heat map and its not a mistake on his team sheet. Playing the hrustic/volpato role
 
grazorblade said:
did anything similar happen with gg players where they didn't want to play for us?
In robbo's case apparently he wants to not play for anyone (although maybe he's just saying that) and wants to avoid getting injured and focus on his club career. In volpato's case he thinks he can play for italy and could be good enough to get 3 90 minute subs locking him in :D
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I thought Robbo was angry he wasnā€™t picked for the Asian cup
 
Pasquali said:
I thought Robbo was angry he wasnā€™t picked for the Asian cup
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that's a remarkable reason to completely drop the roos

to be honest even though he balances the team I don't necessarily think he is automatic starter for the roos right now, he has some strengths and will be better than what we have, but at the moment he has some weaknesses in his game
 
In hindsight Arnold needed to cap Robertson twice before his injury in the preliminary stages. I think then the chances would've been decent to get him on board despite Portsmouth loan interests. Injury 12 months ago would've seen the next cap being mid 2024 and then he'd be secured. Having had 2 you'd think Robertson would've been more willing.

These delays and games could've been avoided by calling them up and playing them. It's not gifting a cap when it's warranted.
 
grazorblade said:
did anything similar happen with gg players where they didn't want to play for us?
In robbo's case apparently he wants to not play for anyone (although maybe he's just saying that) and wants to avoid getting injured and focus on his club career. In volpato's case he thinks he can play for italy and could be good enough to get 3 90 minute subs locking him in :D
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Viera, Sumunic, Seric were all GG era players.
 
Quicky said:
Viera, Sumunic, Seric were all GG era players.
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Vieri was never going to play for us sadly. Although I did read an article where after he moved back to Italy in his early teens he would setup cricket games in the school yard and taught his mates how to play, which always makes me laugh.

My take on the Volpato and Robertson case is that it is less about wanting to play for another nation and more thinking about their career progression. Their clubs and agents don't want them taking on the travel for our qualifying campaign. Maybe they will come around when they have established themselves, or maybe they will take an opportunity to represent their euro nation if it presents.
 
grazorblade said:
In robbo's case apparently he wants to not play for anyone (although maybe he's just saying that) and wants to avoid getting injured and focus on his club career.
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We don't have a good track record. Anyone who is thrusted in the NT has had it affect their career. Before Souttar's injury he was EPL bound and would probably have close to 100 EPL appearances by now if he didn't do his ACL. Circati is another who now may never play Serie A again if Parma don't stay up. Thats just in the last two years.. there's a bunch im missing too.

When you at a big club and you go off for World CUp quals there quality to cover you, at smaller clubs like Boro losing Mcgree for a few weeks is detrimental to their season and they already have no respect for the Socceroos.
 
Cunningstunt said:
Vieri was never going to play for us sadly. Although I did read an article where after he moved back to Italy in his early teens he would setup cricket games in the school yard and taught his mates how to play, which always makes me laugh.

My take on the Volpato and Robertson case is that it is less about wanting to play for another nation and more thinking about their career progression. Their clubs and agents don't want them taking on the travel for our qualifying campaign. Maybe they will come around when they have established themselves, or maybe they will take an opportunity to represent their euro nation if it presents.
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I don't understand why we can't split our squads. Euro based Socceroos to play the west Asian matches, and mostly A-League players called up for the east Asian matches. Makes it more workable for the euro players.
 
jas88 said:
We don't have a good track record. Anyone who is thrusted in the NT has had it affect their career. Before Souttar's injury he was EPL bound and would probably have close to 100 EPL appearances by now if he didn't do his ACL. Circati is another who now may never play Serie A again if Parma don't stay up. Thats just in the last two years.. there's a bunch im missing too.

When you at a big club and you go off for World CUp quals there quality to cover you, at smaller clubs like Boro losing Mcgree for a few weeks is detrimental to their season and they already have no respect for the Socceroos.
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Thats an interesting point....
 
jas88 said:
We don't have a good track record. Anyone who is thrusted in the NT has had it affect their career. Before Souttar's injury he was EPL bound and would probably have close to 100 EPL appearances by now if he didn't do his ACL. Circati is another who now may never play Serie A again if Parma don't stay up. Thats just in the last two years.. there's a bunch im missing too.

When you at a big club and you go off for World CUp quals there quality to cover you, at smaller clubs like Boro losing Mcgree for a few weeks is detrimental to their season and they already have no respect for the Socceroos.
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How do Japan and south Korea avoid a similar effect on their career?

I think fans should be more appreciative of players that do risk their career to play for us, they tend to get abused even if we win ugly. I guess Metcalf's had his 1st season derailed as well, hope he gets it back on track
 
grazorblade said:
How do Japan and south Korea avoid a similar effect on their career?

I think fans should be more appreciative of players that do risk their career to play for us, they tend to get abused even if we win ugly. I guess Metcalf's had his 1st season derailed as well, hope he gets it back on track
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London to Seoul of Tokyo is a 14-15 hour flight, non-stop. London to Syd/Mel is 22-24 hours or more at best, with a stop in the middle. And going to a different season (northern v southern hemisphere), if that creates some issues as well, Iā€™m not sure.

Is that extra 50% or more flight time going to Australia cf East Asia significant?

I guess the other issue is that many Japanese and South Koreans in Europe are playing at a higher level and are more established first team players who are important for their clubs. And they donā€™t have the potential (in general) for dual nationalities like many Aussies do.
 
SteveC said:
Iā€™ve flown between the UK and East Asia on work trips, and can tell you it significantly affects sleep and athletic performance for a week afterwards. Travelling to Australia must be even worse.
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reckon it takes me 3 weeks to get back to 100% even though most of the jetlag is out of your system in 4 days or so

welcome to the forum!
 
Keeper66 said:
London to Seoul of Tokyo is a 14-15 hour flight, non-stop. London to Syd/Mel is 22-24 hours or more at best, with a stop in the middle. And going to a different season (northern v southern hemisphere), if that creates some issues as well, Iā€™m not sure.

Is that extra 50% or more flight time going to Australia cf East Asia significant?

I guess the other issue is that many Japanese and South Koreans in Europe are playing at a higher level and are more established first team players who are important for their clubs. And they donā€™t have the potential (in general) for dual nationalities like many Aussies do.
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I would have assumed that the time zone difference matters more than the time of flight, but I could be wrong
change of seasons would be huge though, especially going from euro winter to our summer

I guess south america has it pretty bad with jetlag too?

Another factor hurting us might be the fact that our games probably have a lot more body to body duels which takes a toll on the body
 
Mr Cleansheets said:
Do you go business though?

Socceroos always do and it's a thousand times better than economy.
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I don't and imagine it makes a big difference since you can sleep. But surely the change of timezone makes a huge difference?

Crazy that we once managed to convince players to book their own ticket on the promise we would reimburse them
 
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