Australia's homelessness crisis.

[The Flying Bat]

we used to have a govt housing trust to provide housing during population surges, however the politicians are too well invested in the property market these days, plus its the only reliable positive economic indicator there is they're unlikely to do anything to drive that down

I agree. Too many politicians with their snouts in the trough ..

Including the useless Prime Minister.

 

[TheSelectFew]

Increase density and demand the government invest in public housing. Introduce a levy for vacant housing and airBnB's.

 

[TheSelectFew]

Bullshit like this doesn't help either. If we live in a capitalist society allow people to invest in property without being hamstrung by rubbish heritage listing that are completely over the top.

See attached.

A 1970s Melbourne carpark to be heritage listed

Sarah Ferguson presents Australia's premier daily current affairs program, delivering agenda-setting public affairs journalism and interviews that hold the powerful to account. Plus political analysis from Laura Tingle.

www.abc.net.au

 

[erogenouszone]

Bullshit like this doesn't help either. If we live in a capitalist society allow people to invest in property without being hamstrung by rubbish heritage listing that are completely over the top.

See attached.

A 1970s Melbourne carpark to be heritage listed

Sarah Ferguson presents Australia's premier daily current affairs program, delivering agenda-setting public affairs journalism and interviews that hold the powerful to account. Plus political analysis from Laura Tingle.

www.abc.net.au

That butt ugly thing heritage listed? Fair dinkum.

 

[Muz]

That butt ugly thing heritage listed? Fair dinkum.

1950s fibro shit boxes and 60s 'brutal' architecture apartments getting heritage protection too in some areas. It's generally NIMBYs.

 

[Muz]

Increase density and demand the government invest in public housing. Introduce a levy for vacant housing and airBnB's.

Public housing investment has halved. To bring it up to the level it was decades ago would mean increasing taxes or looking at something like increasing royalties both of which would never stand a chance. Imagine proposing higher taxes?! No government would dare.

Having said that, even if they had the money there's too many houses that need to be built and not enough people to build them. (Back to my original point about immigration being to high.)

First thing I'd do is ramp up royalties like they did in Queensland which gave them a massive windfall the last couple of years. I believe Crisafulli is going to repeal them. (At least that's what he said in the election. )

 

[Muz]

Increase density and demand the government invest in public housing. Introduce a levy for vacant housing and airBnB's.

I think a levy for airBnB's wont achieve much. They'll just pass it onto the renters. They won't give a shit. Apartments going for $500 a night or more at school holidays are booked out months in advance.

Even limiting nights doesn't really work. Anyone who's limited to X amount of nights is not going to rent the place for those nights and then get a tenant in. They'll just leave it empty when they hit the limit.

 

[TheSelectFew]

That butt ugly thing heritage listed? Fair dinkum.

Look at the list of things heritage listed and you would be shocked by both the potential value the land holds, their locations and their current state. In many cases, owners want to knock them down and redevelop but they can't due to overzealous heritage laws.

 

[The Flying Bat]

Airbnb?

A sharing economy platform, a community marketplace, and a disruptive innovation.....

I blame them hipsters

__________________

Anger at Airbnb grows in cities around the globe

Company insists it is not to blame for soaring rents but critics say it is being disingenuous, our correspondents write

A protester in Barcelona holds a banner saying “your Airbnb increases my rent” at a rally calling for the city to stop hosting large tourist events
More than 30 million pilgrims are expected to descend on Rome next year as the Vatican celebrates its jubilee — and they will all need a bed, making it a perfect moment for Airbnb to shine.

With far too few hotels to cope, the temporary spike in demand would ideally be absorbed by home-sharing sites such as Airbnb, as Romans rent out spare rooms and earn a few euros on the side.

That was the plan but the reality has proved different, with local landlords evicting tenants to make way for profitable pilgrims in a city where 17 per cent of housing in the centre is already listed for rent online, and where neighbourhoods with distinctive, centuries-old character are morphing into tourist dormitories.

The pilgrims may be seeking heaven but many residents believe they are helping the city to go to hell.

“This is an emergency for us — we need to prevent entire blocks of the centre from emptying out and turning into B&Bs, because the presence of residents is fundamental,” Roberto Gualtieri, the mayor of Rome, warned.

But even as Romans rise up and squirt glue in the increasing number of short-term rental properties’ key boxes, and as Airbnb’s reputation sours across Europe, the company told critics they have got it all wrong.

“Short-term lets in major cities like Lisbon, Barcelona, Madrid, Paris, Berlin and Amsterdam represent less than 0.5 per cent of the local housing supply,” an Airbnb spokeswoman said this month. “The root causes of overtourism and housing challenges across Europe are decades of hotel-driven mass tourism and a lack of new homes being built.”

According to Filippo Celata, a housing expert at La Sapienza University in Rome, the firm is being disingenuous in citing the 0.5 per cent figure. “What they should be talking about is the percentage of rental properties, not total properties, that short-term rentals account for,” he said. “In Italy, short-term rental properties may be 1.3 per cent of the total [properties] but they account for an enormous 13 per cent of rentals, and that’s why rental prices are soaring, forcing residents out of cities.”

Across Europe the pushback is well under way. Jaume Collboni, Barcelona’s socialist mayor, plans to close all of the city’s approximately 10,000 short-term rental properties by 2028 after a year of protests against overtourism. In Malaga, where more than a fifth of all properties are listed on Airbnb, new short-term rentals have been banned in many neighbourhoods as residents complain about being priced out. The authorities in Seville have threatened to cut off water to unregistered shortterm lets.

In Lisbon, the granting of new licences in historic neighbourhoods ended in 2018. In France, as in Italy, anger against the tourist takeover of neighbourhoods has focused on key boxes, with residents in Marseilles vandalising them; there are calls in Paris and La Rochelle for key boxes to be removed when they are attached to public railings.

A new French law in November gave mayors powers to cap the number of holiday rentals in their towns, ban rentals from newly built neighbourhoods and reduce the maximum number of days homeowners can put their main residences on the market from 120 to 90. Owners who exceed the limit risk €20,000 fines.

Officials in Paris are in a hurry to use the law to whittle down the city’s 100,000 rentals, 20,000 of which they claim are undeclared. Nationally, MPs claim that rentals in France have increased from 300,000 to 1.2 million in the past eight years, adding to a housing crisis in many cities.

Amsterdammers are also furious about scarce housing and increasing rents — prices rose by 5.2 per cent last year — despite the capital having tightened the screws on Airbnb for years. In 2015 the city capped the number of days homeowners could rent out their properties to holidaymakers to 60 per year, then cut it again 30 days in 2020.

Renting out an apartment in Amsterdam you do not live in can cost you €21,750 in fines. The city wrote in its 2035 tourist strategy: “The city centre must once again become a place where more Amsterdammers can live. The balance between living, working and life must be restored.”

Airbnb’s reaction has been simply to claim that the Dutch, the French and the Spanish are all mistaken about the platform’s impact on rents. A study commissioned and released by Airbnb this month claimed that the crackdown in Paris had failed to stop rents rising further and added that tourist numbers in Amsterdam had risen by 12 per cent since 2019 despite the curtailing of short-term rentals. Regulation was “often ineffective” in controlling rents, the report stated.

New York’s experience goes some way to support that argument. Since the city limited stays of fewer than 30 days to two guests in September last year, and demanded that hosts be physically present during the reservation, Airbnb listings have dropped by more than 90 per cent — but neither housing availability nor affordability has improved, research has shown.

Angry hosts have gone underground, with invite-only groups spreading across Facebook and Instagram as well as Craigslist and one start-up named NYC Short Term Sublets amassing nearly 20,000 members on Facebook.

Back in Italy, Emily Clancy, the deputy mayor of Bologna, is certain that Airbnb is wrong about rents, claiming that the listing on the site of 8 per cent of all central apartments in her city has pushed up rates.“It is one thing to integrate a source of income by temporarily letting a room or an apartment, quite another to have professionals and owners of multiple properties on a platform which was made for occasional home sharing,” Clancy said.

There is one number in the Airbnbcommissioned report no-one is disputing — the cool €26.5 billion earned by hosts every year in Europe.

In Florence, Massimo Torelli, an activist who slaps glue on key boxes as a protest against Airbnb, admitted that owners would never stop trying to rent while doing so made such good money.

“Why rent to a local for €1,000 a month if you can make €4,000 on Airbnb?” he said. “The trend is unstoppable and it’s emptying the city.”


Reporting by Tom Kington in Rome, Adam Sage in Paris, David Sharrock in Malaga, Ella Joyner in Brussels and Samuel Lovett in New York

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[johnsmith]

(Headlines)

"Australia’s Homelessness Crisis Outpaces California by 12-to-1

"10,000 Australians Become Homeless Each Month"

Australia’s Homelessness Crisis Outpaces California by 12-to-1: 10,000 Australians Become Homeless Each Month Amid Housing Shortages and Rising Immigration | The Gateway Pundit | by Guest Contributor

As Australia grapples with a staggering homelessness crisis, with 10,000 people becoming homeless each month, the implications of rising immigration and housing shortages are profound. Discover the unsettling details behind this growing national emergency.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Some of you may not know of the homeless crisis in California, but this article says Australia is even worse.

 

[The Flying Bat]

(Headlines)

"Australia’s Homelessness Crisis Outpaces California by 12-to-1

"10,000 Australians Become Homeless Each Month"

Australia’s Homelessness Crisis Outpaces California by 12-to-1: 10,000 Australians Become Homeless Each Month Amid Housing Shortages and Rising Immigration | The Gateway Pundit | by Guest Contributor

As Australia grapples with a staggering homelessness crisis, with 10,000 people becoming homeless each month, the implications of rising immigration and housing shortages are profound. Discover the unsettling details behind this growing national emergency.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Some of you may not know of the homeless crisis in California, but this article says Australia is even worse.

At times you're thinking Australia is becoming the 'new California'....

Melbourne the 'new San Francisco'

 

[Muz]

Airbnb?

A sharing economy platform, a community marketplace, and a disruptive innovation.....

I blame them hipsters

__________________

Anger at Airbnb grows in cities around the globe

Company insists it is not to blame for soaring rents but critics say it is being disingenuous, our correspondents write

A protester in Barcelona holds a banner saying “your Airbnb increases my rent” at a rally calling for the city to stop hosting large tourist events
More than 30 million pilgrims are expected to descend on Rome next year as the Vatican celebrates its jubilee — and they will all need a bed, making it a perfect moment for Airbnb to shine.

With far too few hotels to cope, the temporary spike in demand would ideally be absorbed by home-sharing sites such as Airbnb, as Romans rent out spare rooms and earn a few euros on the side.

That was the plan but the reality has proved different, with local landlords evicting tenants to make way for profitable pilgrims in a city where 17 per cent of housing in the centre is already listed for rent online, and where neighbourhoods with distinctive, centuries-old character are morphing into tourist dormitories.

The pilgrims may be seeking heaven but many residents believe they are helping the city to go to hell.

“This is an emergency for us — we need to prevent entire blocks of the centre from emptying out and turning into B&Bs, because the presence of residents is fundamental,” Roberto Gualtieri, the mayor of Rome, warned.

But even as Romans rise up and squirt glue in the increasing number of short-term rental properties’ key boxes, and as Airbnb’s reputation sours across Europe, the company told critics they have got it all wrong.

“Short-term lets in major cities like Lisbon, Barcelona, Madrid, Paris, Berlin and Amsterdam represent less than 0.5 per cent of the local housing supply,” an Airbnb spokeswoman said this month. “The root causes of overtourism and housing challenges across Europe are decades of hotel-driven mass tourism and a lack of new homes being built.”

According to Filippo Celata, a housing expert at La Sapienza University in Rome, the firm is being disingenuous in citing the 0.5 per cent figure. “What they should be talking about is the percentage of rental properties, not total properties, that short-term rentals account for,” he said. “In Italy, short-term rental properties may be 1.3 per cent of the total [properties] but they account for an enormous 13 per cent of rentals, and that’s why rental prices are soaring, forcing residents out of cities.”

Across Europe the pushback is well under way. Jaume Collboni, Barcelona’s socialist mayor, plans to close all of the city’s approximately 10,000 short-term rental properties by 2028 after a year of protests against overtourism. In Malaga, where more than a fifth of all properties are listed on Airbnb, new short-term rentals have been banned in many neighbourhoods as residents complain about being priced out. The authorities in Seville have threatened to cut off water to unregistered shortterm lets.

In Lisbon, the granting of new licences in historic neighbourhoods ended in 2018. In France, as in Italy, anger against the tourist takeover of neighbourhoods has focused on key boxes, with residents in Marseilles vandalising them; there are calls in Paris and La Rochelle for key boxes to be removed when they are attached to public railings.

A new French law in November gave mayors powers to cap the number of holiday rentals in their towns, ban rentals from newly built neighbourhoods and reduce the maximum number of days homeowners can put their main residences on the market from 120 to 90. Owners who exceed the limit risk €20,000 fines.

Officials in Paris are in a hurry to use the law to whittle down the city’s 100,000 rentals, 20,000 of which they claim are undeclared. Nationally, MPs claim that rentals in France have increased from 300,000 to 1.2 million in the past eight years, adding to a housing crisis in many cities.

Amsterdammers are also furious about scarce housing and increasing rents — prices rose by 5.2 per cent last year — despite the capital having tightened the screws on Airbnb for years. In 2015 the city capped the number of days homeowners could rent out their properties to holidaymakers to 60 per year, then cut it again 30 days in 2020.

Renting out an apartment in Amsterdam you do not live in can cost you €21,750 in fines. The city wrote in its 2035 tourist strategy: “The city centre must once again become a place where more Amsterdammers can live. The balance between living, working and life must be restored.”

Airbnb’s reaction has been simply to claim that the Dutch, the French and the Spanish are all mistaken about the platform’s impact on rents. A study commissioned and released by Airbnb this month claimed that the crackdown in Paris had failed to stop rents rising further and added that tourist numbers in Amsterdam had risen by 12 per cent since 2019 despite the curtailing of short-term rentals. Regulation was “often ineffective” in controlling rents, the report stated.

New York’s experience goes some way to support that argument. Since the city limited stays of fewer than 30 days to two guests in September last year, and demanded that hosts be physically present during the reservation, Airbnb listings have dropped by more than 90 per cent — but neither housing availability nor affordability has improved, research has shown.

Angry hosts have gone underground, with invite-only groups spreading across Facebook and Instagram as well as Craigslist and one start-up named NYC Short Term Sublets amassing nearly 20,000 members on Facebook.

Back in Italy, Emily Clancy, the deputy mayor of Bologna, is certain that Airbnb is wrong about rents, claiming that the listing on the site of 8 per cent of all central apartments in her city has pushed up rates.“It is one thing to integrate a source of income by temporarily letting a room or an apartment, quite another to have professionals and owners of multiple properties on a platform which was made for occasional home sharing,” Clancy said.

There is one number in the Airbnbcommissioned report no-one is disputing — the cool €26.5 billion earned by hosts every year in Europe.

In Florence, Massimo Torelli, an activist who slaps glue on key boxes as a protest against Airbnb, admitted that owners would never stop trying to rent while doing so made such good money.

“Why rent to a local for €1,000 a month if you can make €4,000 on Airbnb?” he said. “The trend is unstoppable and it’s emptying the city.”


Reporting by Tom Kington in Rome, Adam Sage in Paris, David Sharrock in Malaga, Ella Joyner in Brussels and Samuel Lovett in New York

______________

Sounds like you're in favour of more regulation in a free market. Are you suggesting people not be allowed to what they want with their own properties?

Interesting.

 

[The Flying Bat]

I was just posting an article from Saturday's London Times newspaper.

However Airbnb, much like uber and other disrupters is all part of this hipster anti-conformist aesthetic where freelancers are kings......

You know hipsters muzz, these incredibly progressive, countercultural middle class, neo-bohemian milennials with their novel ideas, which has lead to innovative business models that very often contradict against their so-called social justice behaviours.

And one especially pernicious strain of modern hipster-ism is Airbnb which is now inadvertently dumping their fellow milennials and gen Z-ers at the arse end of the housing market.

Your hipster brethren have also contributed to gentrification when they moved into lower-income neighbourhoods, making them more expensive and forcing out the original residents. This has lead to spatial apartheid. But who cares about the great unwashed?

Not hipsters.....

 

[Muz]

I was just posting an article from Saturday's London Times newspaper.

However Airbnb, much like uber and other disrupters is all part of this hipster anti-conformist aesthetic where freelancers are kings......

You know hipsters muzz, these incredibly progressive, countercultural middle class, neo-bohemian milennials with their novel ideas, which has lead to innovative business models that very often contradict against their so-called social justice behaviours.

And one especially pernicious strain of modern hipster-ism is Airbnb which is now inadvertently dumping their fellow milennials and gen Z-ers at the arse end of the housing market.

Your hipster brethren have also contributed to gentrification when they moved into lower-income neighbourhoods, making them more expensive and forcing out the original residents. This has lead to spatial apartheid. But who cares about the great unwashed?

Not hipsters.....

Usually people post articles which support their principles. Interesting you're posting this without comment, if I understand you correctly, or is it because I asked you a difficult question so now you just say 'I was just posting an article'?

I'd say it's boomers and gen X more than hipsters (who are generally 'lefties') but you go with your prejudices. (Given boomers and Gen Xers would hold own the vast majority of residential property. I'd guess hipsters are in the 25 to 40 demographic without googling it.)

But even if it is hipsters are you proposing a character test for people purchasing properties? Only 15% of people in an inner-city area purchasing properties can have handlebar moustaches and like craft beer. Something like that? Sounds like something you would get in the soviet union.

Seems capitalism may be failing some people and could be done better. I feel like you're having an existential crisis. You seem to believe in social equity principles like the right to shelter but are a rabid right winger.

RUOK?

Come over to the left mate, we care about lots of types of people, not just those finding it difficult to rent.

Pretty soon you'll not be bothered by drag queens. One step at a time though. Slowly, slowly.

 

[The Flying Bat]

"but are a rabid right winger..."

You're stereotyping again champ.

You know you’ve touched a nerve with these progressive activist type's when they tell you not just that you’re wrong but that you’re on the other side.....

But it's really just counter-factual speculation, inspired partly by their self-righteous political indignation.....

 

[Muz]

You're stereotyping again champ.

You know you’ve touched a nerve with these progressive activist type's when they tell you not just that you’re wrong but that you’re on the other side.....

But it's really just counter-factual speculation, inspired partly by their self-righteous political indignation.....

A lot of words to say not much.

Do you have an original thought in your head or do you just parrot stock phrases?

And who's the activist here? You're the one bleating about housing.

I also like how you ignored my question to you about interfering in the free market by regulating it. (Which I'm for by the way ) Crickets.

Just more ad hominens. The refuge of a bloke who can't construct an argument to defend what he's posited.

 

[The Flying Bat]

Ad hominens? Hardly...

It was 'the selected few' guy who first brought up the subject of Airbnb, not me. I just posted an article from a newspaper about how some authorities are dealing with them.

No reason why I would have to express opinion on the regulation of it. Which for what it's worth, it should be regulated. Not every topic has to be an argument.....

Unless you're the 'chip on the shoulder' contentious type.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

(Headlines)

"Australia’s Homelessness Crisis Outpaces California by 12-to-1

"10,000 Australians Become Homeless Each Month"

Australia’s Homelessness Crisis Outpaces California by 12-to-1: 10,000 Australians Become Homeless Each Month Amid Housing Shortages and Rising Immigration | The Gateway Pundit | by Guest Contributor

As Australia grapples with a staggering homelessness crisis, with 10,000 people becoming homeless each month, the implications of rising immigration and housing shortages are profound. Discover the unsettling details behind this growing national emergency.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Some of you may not know of the homeless crisis in California, but this article says Australia is even worse.

I have travelled, (in the last 2 months) to Sydney, Brisbane, Canberra, Adelaide, Hobart and of course all over Melbourne and have NEVER, NEVER seen anything remotely resembling the tent cities of LA.... Your celebrity news source is false.....

 

[erogenouszone]

^ Should read up about Lismore in NSW after the floods ( biggest ones ever ). People are still living in temporary accommodation up there. Really sad.

 

[TheSelectFew]

^ Should read up about Lismore in NSW after the floods ( biggest ones ever ). People are still living in temporary accommodation up there. Really sad.

A lot of people refuse to accept the reality they moved to a floodplain. Others who have accepted the reality have moved out as evidence of Lismore's fall in population, one of a few in Australia.