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Muz said:
10000%

They want to live in a society when 'poofs' were bashed and you could call them 'faggots' and 'poofters' and indigenous peoples could be called 'boongs', 'coons' and 'black cunts'.

They want to live in a society where you can pinch girls on the arse again, catcall and wolf whistle them and rub your dick up against them on public transport if you want to.

They want to live in a society where you can call Asian 'chinks', 'slopeheads' and 'dirty reffos' like you used to be able to.

They want to live in a society when women weren't allowed to get a loan, have a credit card without their husband signing for it, have them sacked from the public service when they got married and weren't allowed to vote like before.

They want to live in a society when every person on TV or in the movies was white and anglo saxon. Why the fuck do I need to see anyone other than those people in any of those forms of media.

Every single one of these examples is an example of political correctness gone mad and 'wokeness'.

The problem is these days everybody is so politically correct and woke that you can't do any of these things. Fuck these WOKE cunts.
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Muz said:
Yeah but that's complicated and thinking about it makes my head hurt. It's much easier if I blame 'wokeness', immigrants and diversity for all of societies ills.

I want simple answers not multi-faceted complex ones.
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I don't think until Elon tells me what to think.
 
The Flying Bat said:
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Just a quick couple of questions.

Does this bring you joy? Any particular reason you posted it? Was the idea of a bar catering to women's sport offensive to you?

Do you like seeing business's fail or just 'woke' business's? Did this bar materially affect your life in any way at all?

What was your rationale for posting it?
 
I don't just get why people can't be. Why do we need to attack those who are "woke" or not. If they are not causing harm to anyone, or affecting life negatively, then just let them be. The moment harm or a net negative to society is being experienced, then people can step in respectfully to address it.

At the end of the day, we just live in a society that is ruled by a few who thrive off creating division amongst the masses. Instilling fear is all they have
 
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zimbos05 said:
Thank you for the response. Not sure if this your view or the actual defining. I would have to say that I disagree with that definition, but not with the idea of lack of consequence.


Youth crime is actually not that high. All records show that is at its lowest -at least in Queensland. The issue of youth crime is not simply a lack of consequence, but an issue of the systemic issues that exist in terms of cost of living, health accessibility, access to education and support services.
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Overall youth offenders are down but the same youths are doing the crimes at high rates. You can imagine if you owned a shop near where these youth congregate there would be shoplifting and violence every day by the same people and nothing gets done. This just grows discontentment around hard working Australians who want to feel safe and that something is being done.

I just don’t think a slap on the wrist is good enough when someone does armed robberies and home invasions. Literally nothing gets done unless someone dies
 
Pasquali said:
Overall youth offenders are down but the same youths are doing the crimes at high rates. You can imagine if you owned a shop near where these youth congregate there would be shoplifting and violence every day by the same people and nothing gets done. This just grows discontentment around hard working Australians who want to feel safe and that something is being done.

I just don’t think a slap on the wrist is good enough when someone does armed robberies and home invasions. Literally nothing gets done unless someone dies
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Your solution?
 
Pasquali said:
Overall youth offenders are down but the same youths are doing the crimes at high rates. You can imagine if you owned a shop near where these youth congregate there would be shoplifting and violence every day by the same people and nothing gets done. This just grows discontentment around hard working Australians who want to feel safe and that something is being done.

I just don’t think a slap on the wrist is good enough when someone does armed robberies and home invasions. Literally nothing gets done unless someone dies
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I get that, and fully understand the frustration of those people. However, if you don't address the systemic cause of what has caused these people to get into crime, you won't fix the issue of repeat offenders. Locking them up isn't going to solve the issue. It's simply kicking the problem down the road.

If we really want to fix youth crime, we need to fix the cause, not simply bandage the symptoms.

Let's say you lock up a kid when they are 14. They come out in 20 years. They are now 34. They haven't had an education, a childhood, an upbringing, engagement with society, formal training. How will they all of a sudden be respectable contributing positive members of society? They will just enter society further behind than they already were. You think they are going to just decide to get a degree and move on with life? Life will come at them hard. The government isn't doing anything to help them when they get out and neither is society. They will resort to what they know, or become a burden on society by being homeless.
 
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zimbos05 said:
I get that, and fully understand the frustration of those people. However, if you don't address the systemic cause of what has caused these people to get into crime, you won't fix the issue of repeat offenders. Locking them up isn't going to solve the issue. It's simply kicking the problem down the road.
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It doesn't just kick it down the road it turbo-charges it when they're released because they come out fully fledged criminals that learnt the ropes from the hundreds of other fuckwits in there.
 
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Muz said:
Just a quick couple of questions.

Does this bring you joy? Any particular reason you posted it? Was the idea of a bar catering to women's sport offensive to you?

Do you like seeing business's fail or just 'woke' business's? Did this bar materially affect your life in any way at all?

What was your rationale for posting it?
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Farken crickets.

Weak.
 
zimbos05 said:
I get that, and fully understand the frustration of those people. However, if you don't address the systemic cause of what has caused these people to get into crime, you won't fix the issue of repeat offenders. Locking them up isn't going to solve the issue. It's simply kicking the problem down the road.

If we really want to fix youth crime, we need to fix the cause, not simply bandage the symptoms.

Let's say you lock up a kid when they are 14. They come out in 20 years. They are now 34. They haven't had an education, a childhood, an upbringing, engagement with society, formal training. How will they all of a sudden be respectable contributing positive members of society? They will just enter society further behind than they already were. You think they are going to just decide to get a degree and move on with life? Life will come at them hard. The government isn't doing anything to help them when they get out and neither is society. They will resort to what they know, or become a burden on society by being homeless.
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You need to do both. Locking adults up is also a bandaid solution but it's also necessary at times.

I don't believe letting them continue to be criminals on the streets is the solution either. There needs to be a strong intervention in place that redirects their life course.
 
Pasquali said:
You need to do both. Locking adults up is also a bandaid solution but it's also necessary at times.

I don't believe letting them continue to be criminals on the streets is the solution either. There needs to be a strong intervention in place that redirects their life course.
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I agree with you on the 'not letting them just continue on the streets'. I agree with you that something needs to be done. Where I disagree is with the idea of "adult crime, adult time". We essentially need to be running rehab centres, particularly for kids who are young. They don't need to go to prison, they need to be in centres where they can still access education, support services, socialise, engage in things in the way they would need to at that age. Even adults locked up need access to education, support services and rehab.

Whilst doing that, fix things at the root cause. The systemic issues such as cost of living, access to housing -negative gearing, access to education, access to support services, medicare, mental health services, and the current pricing out younger generations of just about any basic right.
 
zimbos05 said:
I agree with you on the 'not letting them just continue on the streets'. I agree with you that something needs to be done. Where I disagree is with the idea of "adult crime, adult time". We essentially need to be running rehab centres, particularly for kids who are young. They don't need to go to prison, they need to be in centres where they can still access education, support services, socialise, engage in things in the way they would need to at that age. Even adults locked up need access to education, support services and rehab.

Whilst doing that, fix things at the root cause. The systemic issues such as cost of living, access to housing -negative gearing, access to education, access to support services, medicare, mental health services, and the current pricing out younger generations of just about any basic right.
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its called juvenile detention and its obviously either underutilised or overcrowded
 
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