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With the high standard of play in the A-League, why are the crowds so low?

too funny but D quotes he seen AU won at home, got to wonder.
Yer topsy turvey season for youse ag, expected more as AU normally punch above their weight very well but the wheels fell off, as mentioned missed many chances thats a curse for any team.
We only won four home games all season.
Won six away.
 
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That was my whole point, average A- League crowds were for the most part healthy from 2005 - 2018, they are getting better (albeit slowly).

As for bumper crowds during 2005-2018, WSW V Sydney FC derbies would often be sold out (that never happened in the NSL), in October 2016 WSW v Sydney FC had an attendance of 61K at the Sydney Olympic stadium, Melbourne Victory had to leave Olympic park because it was too small.

No one saying the A-League is perfect, far from, and there are serious issues that need to be addressed, but look at what has been achieved in the last 20 years (2005-2025), compared the 27 years of the failed NSL (1977-2004), at the end of the results speak for themselves.
SR I get your pov when looking at spread sheets/graphs and having been in countless meetings and business in my years its not a true indicator whats gone on on the street.
Very easy to point the finger the NSL didn't work compared to modern times 00's on.
NSL derbies were sell outs in their own right in the heydays may I say as well ablient smaller grounds AND as they say not as "inclusive" even thats a cop out imo.
NSL had NO or very little exterior backing, true it pigeon holed itself due to many reasons/factors so its not comparing apples with apples no.
Add in NO media - run very loosely policy on the run but overall it grew and built a foundation from ground up that survives to this day.
Whereas 05 had a sugar daddy and many others + huge corporate backing FOX coverage the vision to be mainstream with the other 2/3 main codes.
Ofcourse it was going to be the next new beaut "event" game to go to, modern tech has advanced and influenced what every single fam does since the mobile came to be, nothing like backwater waiting for news paper articles and Club mailbox flyers getting out to NSL patrons and casuals seriously come on.
Had you seen the massive crowds SMH and Syd Clubs used to get no diff to your mentions of the AL derbies.
Back then it wouldn't have entered their minds much to move to larger stads to cater for more crowd.
I seriously wonder about peoples outlook of the past to present to justify your reason.
Its like comparing my Falcon or Holden of the 70/80's to what I drive today let alone last 20yrs and say, cheez those cars were crap back then they had no glue what they were doing what a fail.
Hope you understand me.
 
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The young Aussie players coming through are pushing the AL standard up IMO. The AL quality is better than ever
To a point maybe - Yes I agree some of the youth coming through are a step up on what has gone before but its a bit of a stretch to say they have raised the standard of the league when I look back at players such as Broich, Berisha, Murdocca, Henrique, Franjic, McKay at the Roar and players from other teams of that era such as Juninho, Kewell, Cahill, Thompson, Sterjovski, Carle, Smeltz, Djite, Aloisi and many more - dont see that level of player now in the A League unfortunately - jeez some of those names I mentioned you would definitely pay to watch again
 
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FYI seems as if the term "Fucktards" is one of endearment obviously, and a civil football convo opening line!


There you go. We agree.

Perhaps, but too hard especially since morwell didnt work either.. no statistics market analysis can prove success for franchise from the ground up. Established choices wouldve worked better imo but they were excluded for other reasons as we all know and there can be no argument now that it was the wrong choice is the point we make!

Thats a bandaid fix at best and it wouldnt work now If anything it would kill them off fully, not that im against it.

In its current form no it doesnt bc our game is rivalries driven and a shit rivalry gages zero interest.. Cant argue that down here an MV vs SMFC per say wouldnt have been a bigger rivalry than anything they concocted later?

Now this i agree with, those markets are different and doesnt mean this has meant success either.
The first point was the insinuation that disagreeing with those old NSL clubs was racist.

It's an absolute furphy to suggest migrant communities wouldn't be welcome at A-League clubs when it's proven that clubs like Sydney, WSW, Adelaide, Perth and Brisbane have large multicultural fanbases.

It seems to be a Melbourne issue more than anything.
 
To a point maybe - Yes I agree some of the youth coming through are a step up on what has gone before but its a bit of a stretch to say they have raised the standard of the league when I look back at players such as Broich, Berisha, Murdocca, Henrique, Franjic, McKay at the Roar and players from other teams of that era such as Juninho, Kewell, Cahill, Thompson, Sterjovski, Carle, Smeltz, Djite, Aloisi and many more - dont see that level of player now in the A League unfortunately - jeez some of those names I mentioned you would definitely pay to watch again
So how old were the players above when they returned or came to the A-League? Thompson tried overseas but did not make it long term and came back and played against tactically weak defenders. Where you are right is that the A-League can no longer afford too many first or second division visa players.
 
So how old were the players above when they returned or came to the A-League? Thompson tried overseas but did not make it long term and came back and played against tactically weak defenders. Where you are right is that the A-League can no longer afford too many first or second division visa players.
I think the age of a player is irrelevant to quality - point being that these were quality players that really added something to the league, drew the bigger crowds and made the A League a decent standard of football to watch - Thompson was a good footballer, great finisher maybe he was unlucky not to have played higher there are many players that dont get the breaks - thats football but I just dont see that level of quality in the current A League
 
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To a point maybe - Yes I agree some of the youth coming through are a step up on what has gone before but its a bit of a stretch to say they have raised the standard of the league when I look back at players such as Broich, Berisha, Murdocca, Henrique, Franjic, McKay at the Roar and players from other teams of that era such as Juninho, Kewell, Cahill, Thompson, Sterjovski, Carle, Smeltz, Djite, Aloisi and many more - dont see that level of player now in the A League unfortunately - jeez some of those names I mentioned you would definitely pay to watch again
$$$ been squandered for a long time the intro far more youth than ever before they had no choice..
Sure giving youth up and comers chances is the life blood of any code but needs experience as well in team sports plus top players with skill are box office you enjoy viewing.
From Syd perspective ADP/Ninko/LeFondre/Bobo/Adrian Mierzejewski what a frigging player to admire on the pitch/locals Brosque types.
I'll even add a MV one Hernandez, top midfielder.
 
From Syd perspective ADP/Ninko/LeFondre/Bobo/Adrian Mierzejewski what a frigging player to admire on the pitch/locals Brosque types.
I'll even add a MV one Hernandez, top midfielder.
When you think back over the years there has been some real gems ADP defo Hernandez was quality and what about Fowler ;)
 
But happy to type it to strangers on the internet? Hope your in laws and or children never suffer the same fate.
Mate, it's obvious you're just here looking for a fight so I'll let you wallow in your own stupidity.

You know full well what I'm talking about but you're twisting it to turn it into a fight.
 
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