Australia's 2022 world cup bid

[grazorblade]

I just watched it for the first time



At the time the consensus seemed to be the bid was terrible. But just watched the winning bid for comparison and its even worse



Anyway I doubt that the bid made any difference haha

 

[NicCarBel]

Worse? As in ours was worse or Qatar’s

 

[grazorblade]

Worse? As in ours was worse or Qatar’s

I think Qatar was even worse somehow

 

[NicCarBel]

I think Qatar was even worse somehow

At the time, the Qatar bid as a whole was laughed at - whereas ours was mostly just the video that was cringe - that’s essentially what the controversy was.

The bids were all made to (as far as I’m aware) line up with a standard June-July competition time.

Qatar’s “great” idea was that they air condition the stadiums, and everyone ridiculed it, but then “somehow” they won the vote. THEN the organisers were able to successfully negotiate the shift later in the year, and we all lost our minds.

 

[patjennings]

We never expected to be first choice. We were counting on being the second choice as as other bids failed. That was apparently based on undertakings given. As it turned out 2 people claimed they voted for us (after the vote) and we got 1 vote. Qatar was well placed from the beginning with a base of 10 or 11 votes. The AFC president Mohammed Bin Hammam was of course behind the Qatar bid

The theory (based on promises) was to get the next round and as Japan and South Korea were eliminated to get their votes Then with Japan and Korea eliminated the 3 way vote would see the Qatar vs us (with the Sth Korea and Japan votes) and the USA with the USA eliminated. Then the hope was that the USA votes would swing to us.

First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, South Korea 4, Qatar 11 (Australia eliminated)

Second round: Japan 2 votes, Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 10 votes and USA 5 votes (Japan eliminated)

Third round: Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 6 votes (Korea Republic eliminated)

Fourth round: Qatar 14 votes and USA 8 votes (Qatar obtained an absolute majority)

 

[LFC]

was a ridiculous call to go it against the Qatar $$'s let alone the meh/cringe campaign as mentioned and desperation throwing in $43M of our tax's to the campaign, was pathetic call by Lowy and his cronies and we paid for it in the long term, look like idiots.
Add this as one of the other wrong calls but short term hope of the $$$$$ grab by the Lowy ran FFA.

 

[JS96]

All those years ago the imagination of who may be playing for our team in that year. To think it's all passed. Time flies. Of course none of us knew McGree or Souttar. Maybe Ryan or Duke were doing some juniors then.

At the time it made little sense with a Japan/Korea bid and Netherlands/Belgium.

Rudd is hosted a good world cup. It's crazy to think how in 2012 you could just go to Ukraine for a football tournament. Russia was also totally different then.

The Qatar world cup was successful and I'm consumed as to why all the world's public broadcasters have stopped reporting on human rights issues there. They were important then but not now?

 

[JS96]

Qatar broke a lot of prerequisites like the June hosting time. Covid happened too knocking qualification about.

 

[grazorblade]

Qatar broke a lot of prerequisites like the June hosting time. Covid happened too knocking qualification about.

Qatar was probably a lot worse than i remember given it was such a fun world cup for australia

 

[patjennings]

was a ridiculous call to go it against the Qatar $$'s let alone the meh/cringe campaign as mentioned and desperation throwing in $43M of our tax's to the campaign, was pathetic call by Lowy and his cronies and we paid for it in the long term, look like idiots.
Add this as one of the other wrong calls but short term hope of the $$$$$ grab by the Lowy ran FFA.

To put what I thought was $45M into context it was 0.01264% or 1/7991th of the federal budget with the possibility of attracting millions of people to Australia over a period of a month.

To compare the NSW government spent $10M to give to the NRL in the 2023 budget to hold the NRL Grand Final in Sydney 0.00833% or 1/12000th of the NSW budget to host 80,000 over a weekend. N.B. It has only ever been in Sydney except for one Covid year in Brisbane.

TBH one has a very definite upside and the other just maintains the status quo and I suspect there would be a huge backlash by the NRL public if it went anywhere but Sydney as there would be in Melbourne if the AFL tried to flog the Grand final to other cities.

 

[patjennings]

That is apart from the investment the game would have one from 2010 and the deepening of the player pool that probably would have resulted.

Lowy made plenty of mistakes but put simply Qatar was the worst technical bid.

 

[grazorblade]

That is apart from the investment the game would have one from 2010 and the deepening of the player pool that probably would have resulted.

Lowy made plenty of mistakes but put simply Qatar was the worst technical bid.

Yeah honestly think the bid was fine

Good ambition and shame it didnt work out

 

[patjennings]

Yeah honestly think the bid was fine

Good ambition and shame it didnt work out

It would have been transformational. Well worth the bid. Apart from the major stadiums there would be heaps of other smaller stadium upgrades, The A League would have expanded much quicker and we probably would have had NSD 10 years ago.

 

[RoyalDave]

It would have been transformational. Well worth the bid. Apart from the major stadiums there would be heaps of other smaller stadium upgrades, The A League would have expanded much quicker and we probably would have had NSD 10 years ago.

Well actually FFA needed more stadiums to include in the bid and so to that end Townsville and the Gold Coast were rushed in so that the government would commit to stadium upgrades if the bid was successful, and it wasn't and then ummmm yeah....

In fact the period during which the world cup bid was prepared was the A League's most prolific expansion period.