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Beretta said:
Here comes the Communist.

Painting an entire community and race the same based on a photo of 10 people. lol there are nazi sympathisers in every country....
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Ok so they are Nazi Sympathisers now.

Glad you acknowledge it,

I have many cro friends, none are nazis. these tryhards though - FMD
 
FOr the record I have never painted the entire cro community as nazis. I love croatia, one of my favorite places in the world.
 
southoftheyarra said:
Don't forget the social ramifications of it as well... Not a good look buddy.
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What? so post the Australia Cup, we were;

1st club into the NSD and a founding Member and the only club to get their $500k Bond Back.

The Social ramifications really impacted the club lol
 
tsf said:
Ok so they are Nazi Sympathisers now.

Glad you acknowledge it,

I have many cro friends, none are nazis. these tryhards though - FMD
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if they are friends with you, calling them cro is a long stretch.

the red star hasnt been since since 91.
 
Beretta said:
if they are friends with you, calling them cro is a long stretch.

the red star hasnt been since since 91.
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You;re right, I usually call them Cr-ohs

As I said, amazing country. Been many times, studied the history, you name it.
 
tsf said:
Ok so they are Nazi Sympathisers now.

Glad you acknowledge it,

I have many cro friends, none are nazis. these tryhards though - FMD
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and thats the point in bold tsf, putting aside any mature age ones most are try hard young ones who are just plain dumb f idiots thinking they are tuff or something.
I have been to many a game at Edensor and always if there's a issue its the young idiots who get out of line, more so because they smuggled in the piss as many do and go OTT.
I just don't get these young flogs thinking this is fun, looking like a pack of flogs stooopid DH's.

MCG, really don't believe all you read, no diff to whats happenned with your lot by the way many a time, be it MV and the Cove worse the WSW.
 
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tsf said:
But Judge Harris on Thursday upheld the guilty finding against Lisica, who performed the salute seven times.

They included one example of scaling a guard rail to raise his hand and later when standing by himself up at the top of the spectator area.

The painter had worn army camouflage to the soccer match and held a large hand-made Croatian flag with the phrase “za dom”, meaning “for homeland”.

He also gave evasive answers to police about whether he raised his arm in a Nazi salute when interviewed in February 2023, she said.

The judge also rejected the 46-year-old’s claim he was too drunk to remember what he did after having 10 beers on the day.
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hahahah I forgot he was a painter... luckily NOT Austrian... hahahahaha
 
Beretta said:
i met a lot of them last year who were all on vacation in croatia. so they cant be doing that bad if they are out and about and spending money.

No Illegal Immigrants
No Terrorist attacks.
No Grooming Gangs
Good Christian Values and Religious Country

Like i said, the world would be a better place with these values in mind
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Sounds like paradise.... I wonder why all the 18-35 year olds males are leaving the coutnry in droves? Maybe they are gay. muslim, and black?....
 
Just one for the history buffs out there; regarding the term Za Dom Spremni (For the home land Ready) Timeline

Nikola Subić Zrinski used this salute in his glorious death in the march against the Ottoman Empire in the 16th Century where Suleiman I died (Siege of Szigetvár)

It was also used by our most known Ban Jelacic during the war against Hungary (Josip Jelačić)

The salute is used regularly for CENTURIES in the opera ‘Nikola Šubić Zrinski’ which is also performed on universities abroad, in Japan

It was then used by the Ustashe from 1941.-1945. which this issue is about.

It was also used from 1990.-1995 by Croats in defense against the Serbian invasion by the Croatian Defense Force paramilitary group which fought on the hardest of battlefields and marched to certain death even in Vukovar where the official army forbade them to come, and even imprisoned them.

The Term Za Dom Spremni, is still used and displayed in Croatia today with our paramilitary groups, when we celebrate operation storm in our independence. Even if our leftist government doesn't like or agree with it.
 
Beretta said:
Just one for the history buffs out there; regarding the term Za Dom Spremni (For the home land Ready) Timeline

Nikola Subić Zrinski used this salute in his glorious death in the march against the Ottoman Empire in the 16th Century where Suleiman I died (Siege of Szigetvár)

It was also used by our most known Ban Jelacic during the war against Hungary (Josip Jelačić)

The salute is used regularly for CENTURIES in the opera ‘Nikola Šubić Zrinski’ which is also performed on universities abroad, in Japan

It was then used by the Ustashe from 1941.-1945. which this issue is about.

It was also used from 1990.-1995 by Croats in defense against the Serbian invasion by the Croatian Defense Force paramilitary group which fought on the hardest of battlefields and marched to certain death even in Vukovar where the official army forbade them to come, and even imprisoned them.

The Term Za Dom Spremni, is still used and displayed in Croatia today with our paramilitary groups, when we celebrate operation storm in our independence. Even if our leftist government doesn't like or agree with it.
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I'm no expert on any of this but always trying to learn. Is it similar stuff to how the nazis appropriated the swastika? An historical symbol of divinity stolen for nefarious motives.

I suppose it needs to be taken in context. If my Indian mate hangs a swastika in his home I wouldn't think twice about it. But if my German colleague walks around with a swastika pinned to their chest, they wouldn't last the day, it would just be uncouth and borderline psychotic.

Is some of the angst because of the links of the people who came to Australia around the 50s? I think if there weren't pictures of Pavelic proudly on display then these SS kids wouldn't get as much attention.
 
HappyGuus said:
I'm no expert on any of this but always trying to learn. Is it similar stuff to how the nazis appropriated the swastika? An historical symbol of divinity stolen for nefarious motives.

I suppose it needs to be taken in context. If my Indian mate hangs a swastika in his home I wouldn't think twice about it. But if my German colleague walks around with a swastika pinned to their chest, they wouldn't last the day, it would just be uncouth and borderline psychotic.

Is some of the angst because of the links of the people who came to Australia around the 50s? I think if there weren't pictures of Pavelic proudly on display then these SS kids wouldn't get as much attention.
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Uncouth is probably the best term you can use Guus...

Symbology IS linked to ideology and sometimes purposefully so... Alot of this younger generation, like LFC alluded too, is influenced by the notoriety it brings as opposed to the Pavelic worship the wannabe outraged media want to portrey them as... Its no different than British and American kids wearing SS badges and Iron Cross badges in the 70s and 80s or uni kids with Che Guevara t-shirts.... Shit even the British Royal family likes to wear Brownshirt attire and goosestep around at parties sometimes lol....

Demonising a group of people solves nothing, in fact it makes them even more insular and shrink deeper into their nationalistic tendencies... You are absolutely NOT doing so, but I find that the overall narrative amongst some that "All Croatians are Nazis" is as helpful as "all Muslims are Terrorists" or "all Trans are paedophiles" ... A bunch of young men being proud of who they are and where they come from doesn't HAVE to mean they wanna start up concentration camps and kill all the Serbs in this country ..(maybe some of them still feel that way :P )

As for your appropriation comment, had to through this littel fascits US Congress image in ... to hard to resist :)


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HappyGuus said:
I suppose it needs to be taken in context. If my Indian mate hangs a swastika in his home I wouldn't think twice about it. But if my German colleague walks around with a swastika pinned to their chest, they wouldn't last the day, it would just be uncouth and borderline psychotic.
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and rightfully so.

now let me ask, why is communism in this country so acceptable and applauded? Just walk in your local Universities or Inner City areas (Sydney) and the Hammer and Sickle T-shirts, posters etc are worn and shown with pride. We are talking about and ideology that has killed 100mill people and still have concentration camps in North Korea and China.

We talk about Nazis and the atrocities they caused, but no one talks about the evil of Communism.
 
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tsf said:
Good point. I have never once heard anyone give Stalin, the KGB, the gulags etc a bad wrap. Not once.
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Yeah we are far more focused on explaining how good it was that the "righteous nations" slaughtered millions of peasents to prevent the terrible dominoes of evil evil boogeyman communism to spread. All hail mammon, god of gold.....
 
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Beretta said:
and rightfully so.

now let me ask, why is communism in this country so acceptable and applauded? Just walk in your local Universities or Inner City areas (Sydney) and the Hammer and Sickle T-shirts, posters etc are worn and shown with pride. We are talking about and ideology that has killed 100mill people and still have concentration camps in North Korea and China.

We talk about Nazis and the atrocities they caused, but no one talks about the evil of Communism.
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Because Communism, as an ideology, appeals to people who yearn for freedom and justice and a fair share of the wealth for all. Like Christianity does.

The slaughter and horrors committed in the name of both Christianity and Communism is a totally different story and the millions of deaths caused in the name of the Hammer and Sickle or the Cross are forever a stain on our combined human history..

Nazism on the other hand ... well what can you say to even pretend to defend it?? I mean seriously, interested in your response.
 
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