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Official South Melbourne Hellas thread 🔵⚪

southoftheyarra said:
As long as he can score more tap ins and headers off the bench Il save my judgement.
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Not currently looking that way, but cant do anything atm, other than give him time and hope he can somewhat pan out! It would be good to judge him based on a system other than Estebans anti football ideally.

It feels as if this was a choice made purely on height criteria alone,so i do wonder if there was a change in style of play (to more orthological football) perhaps he will fit that system better.
 
The fact we went to Denmark to find someone from the 6th tier is so comical.

5 months to try change our style of play and nothing was done. Between recruitment and tactics its a horror show. Nobody wants to take responsibility either, the football manager claims he got the role after we signed all those kids that arent up to it, so who signed them? Disorganised rabble.

Its simply not worth my time so i'll be youtubing from here on. Heidelberg x 2, Victory at home and preston at home are the only games i will attend for the rest of the year, might throw in Oakleigh at home or a juicy cup tie, but thats where it ends until Esteban goes. Wont get full value for membership but i just put it down as a donation.
 
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We almost all agree that Estaban needs to go.....we also agree it has to be sooner rather than later.... we also all can see the need for a change in playing style yesterday!!!

Question is who do we bring in??
Given our desire for JA at this point in time is an impossible feat.

*Although couldnt think of anything more fitting than grabbing JA as a package wirh Lesiotis from the Burgers for a serious push at everything!
 
Its very difficult because the squad needs a bit of a reset as well. We are a very slow team that cant move the ball between the lines, we are also too tall i think, we are playing the Sawyer system despite the fact he is gone.
 
southmelb said:
Its very difficult because the squad needs a bit of a reset as well. We are a very slow team that cant move the ball between the lines, we are also too tall i think, we are playing the Sawyer system despite the fact he is gone.
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We agree on the reset, its paramount, but we wont know where we are problematic unless someone with an adaptable/shifting playing style comes in to work with the current squad (which talent wise, remains top notch at full strength to be fair) and we have shown glimpses of speed moving forward in transition (the few times the players had a brain freeze) so i dont really know if we are as slow as we look, i honestly believe its simply a byproduct of tactics rather than individual playing talents. Whether these players, after all these years, can play a different system without major changes is a real question we cant answer until they are forced into having to.. .. perhaps the current system is holding the players that came in back rather than the other way around could be a reql truth also!!

Surely 2 losses away in the next 2 will be the end of the one trick pony!
 
southmelb said:
The fact we went to Denmark to find someone from the 6th tier is so comical.

5 months to try change our style of play and nothing was done. Between recruitment and tactics its a horror show. Nobody wants to take responsibility either, the football manager claims he got the role after we signed all those kids that arent up to it, so who signed them? Disorganised rabble.

Its simply not worth my time so i'll be youtubing from here on. Heidelberg x 2, Victory at home and preston at home are the only games i will attend for the rest of the year, might throw in Oakleigh at home or a juicy cup tie, but thats where it ends until Esteban goes. Wont get full value for membership but i just put it down as a donation.
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FFS the football director dosen’t want to take responsibility.

Who signed these players then? Tyson Holmes? Kokotis surely knew these players we were bringing back since he was the junior football director with most of these signings having played juniors for the club.

What a mess!
 
smfc_hellas59 said:
FFS the football director dosen’t want to take responsibility.

Who signed these players then? Tyson Holmes? Kokotis surely knew these players we were bringing back since he was the junior football director with most of these signings having played juniors for the club.

What a mess!
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No point assigning blame to any one individual when we dont know.

All we know is the off season was botched and we have a coach thats out of his depth.

Just want to club to admit they stuffed it and start trying to fix this now, begining with the coach.
 
can someone give me some history regarding the preston lions match with south.

Was this the first league meeting against each other in how long?
and was the the first victory for preston over south since the 80s?
 
As we are bearing witness instead of being the natural leader we suddenly find ourselves in a followers position without knowing how we got here!

Call it complacency or what you will but every aspect of our club needs to step it up immediately or we risk falling further behind than we find ouselves atm. .... and im not just referring to the on field aspect...
 
The club got a general manager in the lead up for the Championship. Would be interesting to know what he has done in the last 4-5 months in the role?

I noticed he had some good initiatives with community football programs in the 6 months prior to getting the general manager role.

Are we just waiting to play Preston at home and for the Championship to start and hope for the best that crowds come back?
 
Honestly, i dont know...Im in the hope we are moving quietly and effectively... but what i see is, that unlike other clubs, which have become more aggresaive in their engagement with all aspects (which seems to be bearing fruits), we continue to think we are above all that bc we are SMFC, and it will all just fall in place come Championship...

What can i say, im a little dumbfounded, and still annoyed that nothing, (post the last 2 matches) has come out of the footballing department resembling anything of value or reassurance.

*head to head promotion, presence, organisation (along with our current footballing style) have all been shown up in the last 2 weeks! If thats not a wake up call, i dont know what is!
 
southmelb said:
We have some good players but its been coached out of them. Seeing experienced players like Jankovic and Mells just kicking it anywhere all panicked is a symptom of our tactics. Prestons ability to switch the point of attack, have wingers actually run at our defenders with the full backs making overlapping runs is completely foreign to us.

We continue to play like Sawyer is there, his ability to drag 2 players away from the play and create space for others is gone.

We've established that our championship window is over, and we likely arent playing finals. Is this not the point you move on from Esteban?

We obviously arent getting an Anastasiadis or Tolios in right now. Perhaps give it to Nick Marinos until seasons end, his young port side played good stuff last year.
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Maybe Ange will get the boot at Spurs before the Championship kick off> lol
 
SMFC1959 said:
Last night showed that most clubs have improved and strengthened their squads. We have either remained stagnant or gone backwards.

The only way we will score is either through a set piece or a throw in. That’s it.

Preston played well and they were the better team in the first half but we valiantly tried to hold on and stay in the contest.

Goalkeeper brain fade turned everything around. But to be honest, it was a matter of not if, but when Preston would open the scoring. It just happened through a goalkeeper blunder. As for his antics when he was walking off the park - the less said the better.

Preston put on a great event. They had portable toilets for the South fans and security along the perimeter. There was a spot for the South fans to buy food and drinks. We were well behaved and good to see they held back the Preston fans for 10 minutes to let us out and depart the surrounding area quickly.

There will be excuses on injuries and the goalkeeping error, but the way we have been playing lately, it is very concerning.

What a stupid decision of resting 7 players on Monday it was. We got outplayed against Preston. Monday’s match was a good chance to get 3 points. We now have 1 from a maximum of 9 points from last 3 games.

The question is this - what do we do over the next week to put on a competitive effort against Dandy Thunder away?
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Im sad to say I agree with you both ... We have been well and trully found out... One trick route to goal has been well and truly found out.. IK am not so concerend about the "talent" although full backs this year??? Sheesh... but we DO have the ability to play through the park, we tried it twice (I guess because Archibald got jack of Esteban's "instructions") and it led to two shots on goal.... we just need a more adventurous manager... will we get one ... who knows but Estebans isn't the bloke to lead us to the promised land..... as much as I hopped he would be.
 
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