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Boutique stadiums Australia

German leagues, average attendance and capacity use. Excellent example of appropriate stadium size. We shouldn't build anything where the average attendance would be under 80% of the capacity.

It's not about having a big capacity to fit derbies and rivals and finals, instead every match should be at 95% capacity. If that means small stadiums, so be it. Create scarcity, drive memberships.

Problem is we have so many bandwagoners in Australia, in every sport here, culturally we jump on the winners and don't have time for losers (as Queen sang). So that capacity benchmark might need to be lowered, maybe something like 70%. Oh, and no one wants to actually build the things.

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Realistically, the only teams that need stadiums are Brisbane, Wellington and Melbourne City.

Sydney FC is fine, could be getting 20-30k regularly at Allianz if done right.

Victory perfect.

Adelaide perfect.

Perth perfect.

Newcastle perfect.

WSW perfect.

Gosford perfect.

Macarthur perfect.

Aukland perfect.

Assuming Western United build that stadium, perfect.
 
biggiemic said:
Realistically, the only teams that need stadiums are Brisbane, Wellington and Melbourne City.

Sydney FC is fine, could be getting 20-30k regularly at Allianz if done right.

Victory perfect.

Adelaide perfect.

Perth perfect.

Newcastle perfect.

WSW perfect.

Gosford perfect.

Macarthur perfect.

Aukland perfect.

Assuming Western United build that stadium, perfect.
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Chuck Newcastle in your mix for new stadium required. Mcdonald Jones in bigger than AAMI park in terms of capacity.

Too much.

Need a 12k seat stadium and can play finals at MJS if required.

If City are smart, they build this "Mini Stadium" with expandable seating options. Would only need 6000 seats to accommodate the mens team at the moment.
 
All this talk about 15,000 seat stadia is all well and good, but who is paying for these? A 15,000-seater under Australian work laws would be north of $100,000,000.
 
CentreHalf said:
Chuck Newcastle in your mix for new stadium required. Mcdonald Jones in bigger than AAMI park in terms of capacity.

Too much.

Need a 12k seat stadium and can play finals at MJS if required.

If City are smart, they build this "Mini Stadium" with expandable seating options. Would only need 6000 seats to accommodate the mens team at the moment.
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You think so?

30k is okay for Newcastle, half full and that place is rocking.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
All this talk about 15,000 seat stadia is all well and good, but who is paying for these? A 15,000-seater under Australian work laws would be north of $100,000,000.
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$100 million built one stand at Perth Oval.

a 15k fully seated stadium in this country in 2025 and beyond would be heading toward $500 million
 
Lupi said:
$100 million built one stand at Perth Oval.

a 15k fully seated stadium in this country in 2025 and beyond would be heading toward $500 million
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Allianz was $850 million, for 42000 seats, so not quite $500 million.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
Allianz was $850 million, for 42000 seats, so not quite $500 million.
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Larger stadiums have economies of scale if you're measuring cost per seat. That stadium was built a few years ago, things have gotten more expensive in this country since. Even at the same cost its $300 million and it wouldn't be.. It would be in the range of $400m to $500m.
 
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