A-League Mens 24/25 - Round 23 (+Rd 14)

[RIMB]

I do not like the way the ref is calling fouls on relatively gentle nudges (in favour of Roar) - too many weak flops by us. But if you are going to call the fouls surely you have to consider that 5 through the back by the same Glory player is excessive in the first 10 minutes or so.

After watching the last couple of aleagues games, then this game, all I can think is 'stodgy'. There is little of the fast, crisp passing that the other games have had. There is feeling and commitment in both teams but the quality of constructive play is a fair representation of our table positions in the first half.

Great build up and strike for Glory's goal but not sustained quality throughout the rest of the half.

Bumbling, fumbling long passes backwards when we look like we are moving forwards - sure it draws Glory out but I would rather we kept them pinned and desperate than the constant defusing of our quick opportunities by passing slowly back to Acton in goals.

Halloran's hatchet job on Mileusnic was just scummy behaviour.

It is watchable, with a dog in the fight, but I wonder how it sits for the neutral.

An odd lineup for us - seems we have removed most of what was working for us recently for various reasons but a step backwards in our form.

Come on Roar in the second half. We have been playing better than this and can still do it.

 

[melbcityguy]

Really rate channel ten having two matches on bold

 

[Sutherlandbear]

Not one to usually bag refs but this lady is not having a good match.

Call me old fashioned but, men should referee men, and women referee women.

 

[grazorblade]

Brisbane continue to improve. They look like a mid table team the last few weeks

 

[HappyGuus]

Great match from Klein!

 

[RIMB]

A much better second half (regardless of the score). We got our act together again.

Stand out for me was the way we kept pressure on late in the game instead of passing backwards. Klein's magnificent second goal came off the expectation that we were going to pass backwards like we have all year but O'Shea cut it inside and forward instead and Glory opened up.

Congratulation to Klein for his two goals on top of his usual impressive participation.

First game in ages that I have seen Jelacic putting on the afterburners and it improves his game no end. Pressure on Sail, pressure on the ball carrier, and pressure on the defence when he ran with it. That is what I have wanted him to do since I saw it in pre-season.

 

[grazorblade]

Really convincing defensive performance from Herrington and klein bossed that

I actually thought it was a frustrating game from jelacic, but in the end who cares if we win

 

[RIMB]

Call me old fashioned but, men should referee men, and women referee women.

I do disagree on the grounds simply that the eyes and brain behind the whistle is what matters.

I did not agree with the balance the ref had on contact versus foul. After watching the battle in WSW v Victory with flops being ignored I found it disappointing to see the flops being rewarded this game - even when they were often favouring Roar.

I also found quite a few decisions hard to understand and agree she did not have her best game.

Muz - I find if I put myself in the refs shoes I can accept odd decisions much better . You just have to ask yourself if you think the ref would have made the decision they did based on what you saw as a viewer. If the answer is no, then the ref obviously did not see what you saw and their decision stems from that. Much less mysterious and no hint of conspiracy or failure.

 

[Sutherlandbear]

I do disagree on the grounds simply that the eyes and brain behind the whistle is what matters.

I did not agree with the balance the ref had on contact versus foul. After watching the battle in WSW v Victory with flops being ignored I found it disappointing to see the flops being rewarded this game - even when they were often favouring Roar.

I also found quite a few decisions hard to understand and agree she did not have her best game.

Muz - I find if I put myself in the refs shoes I can accept odd decisions much better . You just have to ask yourself if you think the ref would have made the decision they did based on what you saw as a viewer. If the answer is no, then the ref obviously did not see what you saw and their decision stems from that. Much less mysterious and no hint of conspiracy or failure.

Men and women view physicality, differently for a start.

 

[RIMB]

Really convincing defensive performance from Herrington and klein bossed that

I actually thought it was a frustrating game from jelacic, but in the end who cares if we win

Jelacic did lose the ball and make poor decisions throughout the game - but it was his use of pace that I applaud. Watching him close on Sail from a mile off with a slide that almost intercepted showed us the pace that he has to work with. I think he overthinks when he has the ball at his feet and time to consider and it kills off his effectiveness.

 

[RIMB]

Men and women view physicality, differently for a start.

I honestly do not have an opinion on that statement either to agree or disagree. Just haven't considered it in terms of football reffing. Interesting view though.

Often consistency is the balancing factor - as long as the ref plays it all the same way then it's fair - same as some refs are sticklers for a single hand on someone's back being a foul where others allow two handed shoves if the ball is close enough to be considered challenging.

I have seen many better games from her as a ref though which is why I disagree on principle with the gender divide.

 

[Paul01]

Yep that goal line clearance changed the game, 3-1 is a different game but the Wanderers are showing a lot of heart they might not play the best football in the world but they are very dangerous on the break especially against tired defenders.

And now the Wanderers are in 3rd place.
Adelaide's loss to the Macarthur Bullsh1tters leaves then in 6th place means that Brisbane cannot make the finals. The top 6 is set this week with only points to be decided for Auckland and Western Melbourne

 

[Muz]

Call me old fashioned but, men should referee men, and women referee women.

As long as they meet the same standards I don't have a problem. There plenty of good female refs doing men's matches here, overseas in leagues and in internationals.

 

[Muz]

I do disagree on the grounds simply that the eyes and brain behind the whistle is what matters.

I did not agree with the balance the ref had on contact versus foul. After watching the battle in WSW v Victory with flops being ignored I found it disappointing to see the flops being rewarded this game - even when they were often favouring Roar.

I also found quite a few decisions hard to understand and agree she did not have her best game.

Muz - I find if I put myself in the refs shoes I can accept odd decisions much better . You just have to ask yourself if you think the ref would have made the decision they did based on what you saw as a viewer. If the answer is no, then the ref obviously did not see what you saw and their decision stems from that. Much less mysterious and no hint of conspiracy or failure.

I see your winky emoji.

That's fine mate but there were errors of judgement and she saw them because she blew the whistle. In the first couple of minutes a glory player went through the back of a Brisbane player. Left the ground, no control and at speed. Immediate yellow that should have been given but wasn't.

OK, it's early in the match. Call the player over, public warning.

Couple of minutes later another ridiculous tackle but by Brisbane. Well now we can't card that because we just let that one go.

So 2 people that should have been in the book but weren't.

There were other quibbles I have but the one that stuck out for me was Hingert wrestling with the defender in the box from a corner, ref saw it and called them out, big public warning. Then the corner was taken, and in direct defiance of the ref's warning, he full on charged the glory bloke and knocked him on his arse.

Outcome? Free kick, no card.

Just wrong. Especially after just being warned. Undermines your authority.

The problem is with decisions like that and the others is the players just think 'well that's what we can get away with today'.

Not her best game.

 

[Muz]

Men and women view physicality, differently for a start.

If they're in the selection pool for matches at that level they're across all that. There are constant meetings and review sessions, standards and expectations that are set down.

You don't get to that level doing your own thing or allowing or not allowing things other refs, in that pool, don't.

 

[melbcityguy]

Lazy day today got the grand Prix and three a league games on life is good

 

[RIMB]

I see your winky emoji.

That's fine mate but there were errors of judgement and she saw them because she blew the whistle. In the first couple of minutes a glory player went through the back of a Brisbane player. Left the ground, no control and at speed. Immediate yellow that should have been given but wasn't.

OK, it's early in the match. Call the player over, public warning.

Couple of minutes late another ridiculous tackle but by Brisbane. Well now we can't card that because we just let that one go.

So 2 people that should have been in the book but weren't.

There were other quibbles I have but the one that stuck out for me was Hingert wrestling with the defender in the box from a corner, ref saw it and called them out, big public warning. Then the corner was taken, and in direct defiance of the ref's warning, he full on charged the glory bloke and knocked him on his arse.

Outcome? Free kick, no card.

Just wrong. Especially after just being warned. Undermines your authority.

The problem is with decisions like that and the others is the players just think 'well that's what we can get away with today'.

Not her best game.

I totally agree with you Muz.

I wanted a card for the first mugging tackle from behind and it both deserved and warranted a card. Would have set the right tone for challenging and I am sure it would have changed how all the players went into tackles because they knew they had a boundary.

I doubt the later hackles would have happened and certainly not with the frequency they did.

I thought Halloran did the shoulder charge not Hingert (that was the scummy behaviour I called out) and to me that was at least worthy of a red card consideration because it was an intentional attack on the player and nothing to do with the game.

I also thought Jelacic was an idiot for copping a yellow then kicking the ball away at a free kick. It was a blatant FU to the ref and her authority and being on a card already it was such stupidity and a game costing attitude.

The wink was purely in fun and not suggesting you had double standards.

 

[petszk]

 

[Muz]

I totally agree with you Muz.

I wanted a card for the first mugging tackle from behind and it both deserved and warranted a card. Would have set the right tone for challenging and I am sure it would have changed how all the players went into tackles because they knew they had a boundary.

I doubt the later hackles would have happened and certainly not with the frequency they did.

I thought Halloran did the shoulder charge not Hingert (that was the scummy behaviour I called out) and to me that was at least worthy of a red card consideration because it was an intentional attack on the player and nothing to do with the game.

I also thought Jelacic was an idiot for copping a yellow then kicking the ball away at a free kick. It was a blatant FU to the ref and her authority and being on a card already it was such stupidity and a game costing attitude.

The wink was purely in fun and not suggesting you had double standards.

I might be wrong about the player. It may have been Halloran.

I understood the intent of the winky. All good.

 

[grazorblade]

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Hopefully she refs for the roos then this week!