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Australian Football TV rights

melbcityguy

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A couple of interesting thoughts on Australian tv rights

First of all dazn is close to purchasing Foxtel so that will be interesting.

Optus has 50% off does that mean there desperate for subscribers?

Speaking of which Stan sports is expensive how many people would be with them?
 
A couple of interesting thoughts on Australian tv rights

First of all dazn is close to purchasing Foxtel so that will be interesting.

Optus has 50% off does that mean there desperate for subscribers?

Speaking of which Stan sports is expensive how many people would be with them?
I think Optus will be desperate to regain subscribers who have jumped ship to Paramount+, given that Paramount Australia now has exclusive rights to Matildas games through 2028, and Socceroos games with the exception of the 2026 World Cup, despite them now having the rights to the FA Cup.
 
Streaming services are moving targets and will be for sometime nowadays.
Don't think Optus business as a whole is in trouble,
For the half year ending 30 September 2024, Optus EBITDA grew 7.4% and EBIT was up 58%, as higher mobile ARPU and disciplined cost management helped deliver solid first half results.12 Nov 2024.
Just due to a "special" doesn't mean they are down its bait %'s to add new subscribers that will stay 1yr opt out the next once again.
Point is we all jump in and out.
IF your into EPL like many are in this country you stump 24bucks for its worth every cent if your into it.
Then many people jump out when season is done.
Works both ways for most of the media offerings.
I have P+ for the NT games, hardly watch anything else on it for its pretty much similar to the other apps I prefer using.

Fox was always OTT originally till competition came in, hence they started Stan, then that crept up, like I said it will be a ongoing moving target.
Someone will buy Fox and it will shuffle the pack again.
 
One of the A-League bosses is James Rushton, the former boss of DAZN...

Maybe, just maybe, this is a covert operation by the APL to grab the AFL by the balls and bury it away from FTA! Revenge a quarter of a century in the making!

I jest. But seriously, 4D chess move. Expensive chess, but how much would it be worth to us!

Just found this old article from the final NSL deal:


Seven deal would ruin NSL, says Schwab
October 25, 2002 — 10.00am

If Soccer Australia signed a new deal with the Seven network in a bid to stave off financial ruin, the sport could kiss goodbye to a reformed national league and forget about the Socceroos qualifying for the next World Cup, one of soccer's key powerbrokers warned yesterday.

With a highly contentious Soccer Australia annual meeting due to be held tomorrow and chairman Ian Knop desperately trying to shore up support to sign off on the Seven proposal, the players' union made its opposition clear yesterday.

"If the deal is signed, it will have three impacts on the game," players' association boss Brendan Schwab said.

"The existing NSL will be bankrupted. Soccer Australia will be unable to finance the competition beyond this season, which means the obligations will fall to the clubs, who will be unable to generate revenue without a media platform to move the game forward.

"It will defeat the prospect of developing a new and commercially viable national league because it will deny that competition the opportunity to exploit the national media market that exists.

"It will also destroy Australia's ability to adequately prepare for and qualify for the 2006 World Cup finals - Channel Seven will have more say over who and where Australia plays than the national coach."

The contentious deal - under which Seven wants to focus solely on the Socceroos and forget about the national league in return for an $8 million payment for the next eight years - would set the game's development back at least a decade, John Poulakakis, the chairman of the Professional Footballers Association advisory board, added.

Seven holds the television rights but, since the collapse of its pay-TV arm C7, has not showed any domestic soccer on television. Soccer Australia gets $2.3 million a year from the station but, pending a renegotiation of the deal, Seven has withheld a recent payment.

Seven has reportedly offered an up-front payment of $3.5 million to ease the immediate financial pressure - which Knop and his supporters are keen to take.

Several of the game's important stakeholders argue that a reformed national league will be stillborn without television exposure and separating the Socceroos from the NSL devalues the latter.


 
Happens regularly across the industry but interesting was to see some Swiss Italian? woman go from Fox Australia to DAZN Europe board. She seemed to have a lot to do with Kayo. I'm all for these streaming services to be easily available but the prices they're charging is just too much when the masses want to purchase. In turn DAZN had billions in losses. Apparently the ship is steadying but they've just lost the German Friday night Bundesliga and have the Saturday conference whereas Sky still has all individual games on Saturday.

VPN and A League on Youtube but money not going towards the whole system then. EFL clubs having their own stream and now ifollow is worse. Carlisle makes you watch live only without a recording.

Interesting is also how many are shafting Sky UK for all their shit reporters and pundits and going to YouTube review pages and pundits. The question is, when does someone like Youtube put the most popular ones behind a paywall? There's an abundance of free, high quality stuff that walks all over this big media companies now.
 
irst of all dazn is close to purchasing Foxtel so that will be interesting.

 
I think Optus will be desperate to regain subscribers who have jumped ship to Paramount+, given that Paramount Australia now has exclusive rights to Matildas games through 2028, and Socceroos games with the exception of the 2026 World Cup, despite them now having the rights to the FA Cup.
????? Who would drop EPL, FA Cup - UEFA Nations matches, J and K leagues in order to wath just the Matilda's and Soceroos away qualifiers. Wouldn't think more than a handful to be honest.
 
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One of the A-League bosses is James Rushton, the former boss of DAZN...

Maybe, just maybe, this is a covert operation by the APL to grab the AFL by the balls and bury it away from FTA! Revenge a quarter of a century in the making!

I jest. But seriously, 4D chess move. Expensive chess, but how much would it be worth to us!

Just found this old article from the final NSL deal:


Seven deal would ruin NSL, says Schwab
October 25, 2002 — 10.00am

If Soccer Australia signed a new deal with the Seven network in a bid to stave off financial ruin, the sport could kiss goodbye to a reformed national league and forget about the Socceroos qualifying for the next World Cup, one of soccer's key powerbrokers warned yesterday.

With a highly contentious Soccer Australia annual meeting due to be held tomorrow and chairman Ian Knop desperately trying to shore up support to sign off on the Seven proposal, the players' union made its opposition clear yesterday.

"If the deal is signed, it will have three impacts on the game," players' association boss Brendan Schwab said.

"The existing NSL will be bankrupted. Soccer Australia will be unable to finance the competition beyond this season, which means the obligations will fall to the clubs, who will be unable to generate revenue without a media platform to move the game forward.

"It will defeat the prospect of developing a new and commercially viable national league because it will deny that competition the opportunity to exploit the national media market that exists.

"It will also destroy Australia's ability to adequately prepare for and qualify for the 2006 World Cup finals - Channel Seven will have more say over who and where Australia plays than the national coach."

The contentious deal - under which Seven wants to focus solely on the Socceroos and forget about the national league in return for an $8 million payment for the next eight years - would set the game's development back at least a decade, John Poulakakis, the chairman of the Professional Footballers Association advisory board, added.

Seven holds the television rights but, since the collapse of its pay-TV arm C7, has not showed any domestic soccer on television. Soccer Australia gets $2.3 million a year from the station but, pending a renegotiation of the deal, Seven has withheld a recent payment.

Seven has reportedly offered an up-front payment of $3.5 million to ease the immediate financial pressure - which Knop and his supporters are keen to take.

Several of the game's important stakeholders argue that a reformed national league will be stillborn without television exposure and separating the Socceroos from the NSL devalues the latter.


Still stings that one.
 
????? Who would drop EPL, FA Cup - UEFA Nations matches, J and K leagues in order to wath just the Matilda's and Soceroos away qualifiers. Wouldn't think more than a handful to be honest.
yep here here, like my post, as if.
P+ pull is that its just cheap, hasn't got much better to offer but football wise the Roo/Tillys, you join up just to watch those games but damn if you drop Optus Sport in the meantime, well I sure don't.
Even got the womens SL for those inclined and thats big talking womens top flight football.
 
Good to see BBC getting behind the lower tiers in Scotland. More live matches and highlights show starting in January. Matches for Championship, and highlights for League 1 and League 2.

 
People like to hate on Optus for reasons that are quite dumb, or simply because it is Optus. I don't understand the Optus hate. They have provided the best EPL country we have ever had in this country. Fox Sports was truly diabolical and could not care less for football in this country. Yet people will runa nd jump on Kayo.

Stan also are ripping off customers. Forcing people to buy the basic package before the sports pacakge.

I'm surprised people in this country don't realise how they are being manipulated to like the good services in favour of the bad ones, especially the ones owned by people like Murdoch.
 
People like to hate on Optus for reasons that are quite dumb, or simply because it is Optus. I don't understand the Optus hate. They have provided the best EPL country we have ever had in this country. Fox Sports was truly diabolical and could not care less for football in this country. Yet people will runa nd jump on Kayo.

Stan also are ripping off customers. Forcing people to buy the basic package before the sports pacakge.

I'm surprised people in this country don't realise how they are being manipulated to like the good services in favour of the bad ones, especially the ones owned by people like Murdoch.
When fox sports had the a league and EPL everything was normal in the world. We were living in the golden age and we didn't even know it. How I miss a league then EPL with bozza and peacock
 
When fox sports had the a league and EPL everything was normal in the world. We were living in the golden age and we didn't even know it. How I miss a league then EPL with bozza and peacock
Are you serious? Fox basically showed live matches and a replay at a random time. You missed either of those, and you missed everything. Optus gives you all matches, replays, highlights packages, shows, insight, and you can do all of them at a time that suits you. Even now, Fox still doesn't really do justice to the cricket. Fox has basically lost all football and that goes a long way to showing just how little they valued the sport. They always bid on the low end and tried to low ball. They were never really willing to invest in added coverage beyond the bare minimum. They didn't even want to get a 3rd party coverage for the late night games so we could watch analysis and such.

Not a fan of Bozza. So difficult to work with. He never really cared much about others opinions and always carried himself as if he was the all knowing.
 
Are you serious? Fox basically showed live matches and a replay at a random time. You missed either of those, and you missed everything. Optus gives you all matches, replays, highlights packages, shows, insight, and you can do all of them at a time that suits you. Even now, Fox still doesn't really do justice to the cricket. Fox has basically lost all football and that goes a long way to showing just how little they valued the sport. They always bid on the low end and tried to low ball. They were never really willing to invest in added coverage beyond the bare minimum. They didn't even want to get a 3rd party coverage for the late night games so we could watch analysis and such.

Not a fan of Bozza. So difficult to work with. He never really cared much about others opinions and always carried himself as if he was the all knowing.
Yeah I and many others enjoyed fox sports days rather than subscribing to five different apps.
 
Yeah I and many others enjoyed fox sports days rather than subscribing to five different apps.
I agree with the chagrin to subscribing to many different apps. The solution is not to put everything back on Fox. It also doesn't mean that Foxtel provided excellent coverage of football.

The issue with multiple subscription platforms gores deeper, and is something that needs to addressed to politicians. Be vocal in telling your Local MP. In saying that, Optus don't force you to sign up for a basic package and then the sports package. They still provide the best coverage of any football provider.
 
I agree with the chagrin to subscribing to many different apps. The solution is not to put everything back on Fox. It also doesn't mean that Foxtel provided excellent coverage of football.

The issue with multiple subscription platforms gores deeper, and is something that needs to addressed to politicians. Be vocal in telling your Local MP. In saying that, Optus don't force you to sign up for a basic package and then the sports package. They still provide the best coverage of any football provider.
Yeah I agree it shouldn't go back on Foxtel. But I'm saying the nostalgia for the fox sports days is very strong
 
Yep zimbos Optus S is the bomb of all football apps due to its total offerings every single game plus articles etcetc
Well worth every single cent !!!!!
Fox provided the ease of local followed by the epl match of the round and others following later times.
Didn’t mind it at the time but no where what OS offers today.
PIA having app after app depending your needs.
 
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