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[JS96]

While these groups of guys are pieces of shit, what about all the ludcious amounts of white guys commiting domestic violence and murder?

I think that the problem could be that, some of these western suburbs type cliche boofhead lebo aussies/familyies, are more likley to react with a chip on their shoulder and all play the victim, and generally act like the classsless knuckle dragger sthey are rather than accepting the fact their family member is a rapist piece of shit,

But, I am yet to see any evidence that a particular ethnicity commits more sexual assaults than another.

It's about eradicating it from society. Boys need to be taught it's not OK and a culture of reporting it needs to be instilled. Of course many women don't report it out of fear. Try educating cultures who view women as worthless. It's not going to happen.

Additionally it's about the imported problems. Countries are busy enough trying so solve domestic issues around men and violence and building a better next generation only for ridiculous immigration policy to introduce a cohort that only exacerbate the problem. Deal with locals accordingly through tbe prison system and kick out those who can be.

Rape is used as a weapon of war in some parts of the world. Didn't some US student claim sexual assault numbers at her college were a certain rate in that it equated the level of Congo. Absolutely no way it was that high.

 

[JS96]

having said that they are clearly not all Rapists and there are plenty that do good for the community - however historically it's a fair chunk

The older ones of these communities get rabid when the youth do wrong so it's about strong community elders and having zero tolerance for such behaviours, whatever the culture or background.

 

[tsf]

It's about eradicating it from society. Boys need to be taught it's not OK and a culture of reporting it needs to be instilled. Of course many women don't report it out of fear. Try educating cultures who view women as worthless. It's not going to happen.

Additionally it's about the imported problems. Countries are busy enough trying so solve domestic issues around men and violence and building a better next generation only for ridiculous immigration policy to introduce a cohort that only exacerbate the problem. Deal with locals accordingly through tbe prison system and kick out those who can be.

Rape is used as a weapon of war in some parts of the world. Didn't some US student claim sexual assault numbers at her college were a certain rate in that it equated the level of Congo. Absolutely no way it was that high.

yeah, I mean, there is no doubt at all we have a problem with African youth in Melbourne.

But that's not because they're black, a lot of it is because of either where they are from, or their parents (or lack off)

I used to live in an area with lots of africans, ffs at 9.30pm on a school night the park was full of primary aged and kindergarden age kids - no parents in site. At the football games you never see a dad there. No wonder these little shits are causing trouble, fuck all supervision.

 

[Beretta]

But, I am yet to see any evidence that a particular ethnicity commits more sexual assaults than another.

FFS lol

you just need to look at the grooming gangs around UK & Europe

Its normal in their culture / religion to sleep with 9 year olds.

 

[Muz]

It's about eradicating it from society. Boys need to be taught it's not OK and a culture of reporting it needs to be instilled. Of course many women don't report it out of fear. Try educating cultures who view women as worthless. It's not going to happen.

Sounds like you've been infected by the WOKE MIND VIRUS.

I'm joking but the Neanderthals, MRAs, incels, conservatives on the internet and in the media have conniptions over any sort of discussion around male toxicity. #notallmen #womenareabuserstoo and all the rest of it.

You are 100% correct that it needs to be brought up

Yes it's not all men but for every 1 woman in jail who's a rapist, an abuser, a violent thug, a gang member, an arsonist, a paedophile, a murderer there are 100 men.

Men, and again, not all men, are 99% of the problem.

Ask your wife or daughter if she feels safe going for a walk in the evening or a jog through a park. Shit we never have to consider. It's fucked up. Why can't blokes fucking behave themselves?

I'll watch some women will do something fantastic on the internet and the comments from insecure, pathetic men make you wonder if we're ever going to progress as a society.

It's sick.

 

[JS96]

Sounds like you've been infected by the WOKE MIND VIRUS.

I'm joking but the Neanderthals, MRAs, incels, conservatives on the internet and in the media have conniptions over any sort of discussion around male toxicity. #notallmen #womenareabuserstoo and all the rest of it.

You are 100% correct that it needs to be brought up

Yes it's not all men but for every 1 woman in jail who's a rapist, an abuser, a violent thug, a gang member, an arsonist, a paedophile, a murderer there are 100 men.

Men, and again, not all men, are 99% of the problem.

Ask your wife or daughter if she feels safe going for a walk in the evening or a jog through a park. Shit we never have to consider. It's fucked up. Why can't blokes fucking behave themselves?

I'll watch some women will do something fantastic on the internet and the comments from insecure, pathetic men make you wonder if we're ever going to progress as a society.

It's sick.

I agree within limits. There are definite issues. I think the problem with the debate, if it can be called that, is that radical feminists use these situations to hate on all men. Indeed, men need to call others out.

In turn there needs to be a lot more on fixing the psycho ladies out there. The types on MAFS.

The issue I take with the discrediting of not all men is that after a terror attack, the not all Muslims or not in my name spreads vastly and is considered to carry weight in the argument.

If we get told not to worry as being victim of a terror attack is slim, isn't the chance of being victim to any man even lower as there are simply so many who never do anything wrong? Or might a larger cohort of a group statistically mean the chance of being more fallible is there?

I wonder when or how such categorisation began? We know of prejudice throughout history. All sides of media have a lot to answer for. I guess it's just a sad part of human evolution.

 

[Muz]

I agree within limits. There are definite issues. I think the problem with the debate, if it can be called that, is that radical feminists use these situations to hate on all men. Indeed, men need to call others out.

In turn there needs to be a lot more on fixing the psycho ladies out there. The types on MAFS.

The issue I take with the discrediting of not all men is that after a terror attack, the not all Muslims or not in my name spreads vastly and is considered to carry weight in the argument.

If we get told not to worry as being victim of a terror attack is slim, isn't the chance of being victim to any man even lower as there are simply so many who never do anything wrong? Or might a larger cohort of a group statistically mean the chance of being more fallible is there?

I wonder when or how such categorisation began? We know of prejudice throughout history. All sides of media have a lot to answer for. I guess it's just a sad part of human evolution.

You're hanging around the wrong part of the internet if you're telling me about 'radical feminists'.

Are you taking these people seriously? They're so discredited and have given proper 'feminism' such a bad name that even women disassociate themselves from the terminology to describe themselves which is ridiculous if you think about. Feminism is simply the belief that women should have equal rights and opportunities. It blows my mind that this is controversial.

Doesn't everyone have a mum, sister, aunt, grandmother, daughter, wife? Don't they want them to be treated equally and have the same opportunities? Are people actually walking around thinking that they're not equal, not capable, not ambitious, not anything?

As for your MAFS, example they're picking these lunatics because exactly that, they're lunatics that are unhinged because it makes good TV. They're hardly the average woman on the street.

And what do you mean by 'there needs to be a lot more on fixing the psycho ladies out there'?

Fix how exactly? Or fix what? Do you want them rounded up and then what?

You're veering into MRA territory here.

Given that men are primarily responsible for 2 orders of magnitude worse behaviour than women the chances of a woman, or in fact a man being abused/assaulted/anything by a man are 100 times more likely than by a woman. So yes, you are correct, it is a minority of men but it's a massive majority of men if you're putting them up against women.

And, this I'll never understand, why do men get upset when men are singled out for poor behaviour by other men? I can only assume it's because you feel like you're tarred with the same brush or guilty by association.

Do you feel the same way when people call out paedophiles or racists? I don't. They're scum and the fact they happen to be men doesn't insult or affect me at all.

 

[Muz]

The issue I take with the discrediting of not all men is that after a terror attack, the not all Muslims or not in my name spreads vastly and is considered to carry weight in the argument.

It carries weight because it's true. Is it all Muslims? You'd have to acknowledge it's fringe radicals that are .001% of the population that are causing a ruckus. How many Muslims have been responsible for terror attacks in Australia for example vs every other type of criminal behaviour?

It's not all Muslims. We got 270 million to the north of us in Indo and another 30 million odd in Malaysia they don't say boo. In the main they're normal people trying to get on with their lives.

It'd be an interesting stat to put up Muslim terrorist attacks vs school shootings by white kids in the US. I know who'd win hands down.

But it's easier to rag on brown people.

 

[JS96]

It carries weight because it's true. Is it all Muslims? You'd have to acknowledge it's fringe radicals that are .001% of the population that are causing a ruckus. How many Muslims have been responsible for terror attacks in Australia for example vs every other type of criminal behaviour?

It's not all Muslims. We got 270 million to the north of us in Indo and another 30 million odd in Malaysia they don't say boo. In the main they're normal people trying to get on with their lives.

It'd be an interesting stat to put up Muslim terrorist attacks vs school shootings by white kids in the US. I know who'd win hands down.

But it's easier to rag on brown people.

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It's because the same people who say not all Muslims will say it's all men. It's all identity politics.

 

[JS96]

You're hanging around the wrong part of the internet if you're telling me about 'radical feminists'.

Are you taking these people seriously? They're so discredited and have given proper 'feminism' such a bad name that even women disassociate themselves from the terminology to describe themselves which is ridiculous if you think about. Feminism is simply the belief that women should have equal rights and opportunities. It blows my mind that this is controversial.

Doesn't everyone have a mum, sister, aunt, grandmother, daughter, wife? Are people actually walking around thinking that they're not equal, not capable, not ambitious, not anything?

As for your MAFS, example they're picking these lunatics because exactly that, they're lunatics that are unhinged because it makes good TV. They're hardly the average woman on the street.

And what do you mean by 'there needs to be a lot more on fixing the psycho ladies out there'?

Fix how exactly? Or fix what? Do you want them rounded up and then what?

You're veering into MRA territory here.

Given that men are primarily responsible for 2 orders of magnitude worse behaviour than women the chances of a woman, or in fact a man being abused/assaulted/anything by a man are 100 times more likely than by a woman. So yes, you are correct, it is a minority of men but it's a massive majority of men if you're putting them up against women.

And, this I'll never understand, why do men get upset when men are singled out for poor behaviour by other men? I can only assume it's because you feel like you're tarred with the same brush or guilty by association.

Do you feel the same way when people call out paedophiles or racists? I don't. They're scum and the fact they happen to be men doesn't insult or affect me at all.

Fair point these radicals discredit it. I guess my issue is the airtime they get and they're antagonistic. They do the dirty chanting others want to express but wouldn't dare.

Fair point men stack up poorly against women but again I don't like that there's something of a collective punishment. The absolute vast majority of men do nothing wrong yet get looked at the same way by women. Just like the Muslim example, it's 0001% so technically it's not even a viable threat statisically.

The same people who are deny there are religious threats as it's a minuscule percentage are the same screeching certain things of similar percentage are rampant. I agree, male abuse is seemingly higher but based on probability, across the entire population of all men? It's incredibly low.

We get told when things are so incredibly low statiscally that we needn't worry. I certainly beg to differ in that we must eradicate these male issues but statistically speaking, it's an interesting one on how it's presented.

 

[Muz]

Fair point these radicals discredit it. I guess my issue is the airtime they get and they're antagonistic. They do the dirty chanting others want to express but wouldn't dare.

Fair point men stack up poorly against women but again I don't like that there's something of a collective punishment. The absolute vast majority of men do nothing wrong yet get looked at the same way by women. Just like the Muslim example, it's 0001% so technically it's not even a viable threat statisically.

The s needn't worry. I certainly beg to differ in that we must eradicate these male issues but statistically speaking, it's an interesting one on how it's presented.

You have to try and ignore the extremes that's why when I read what the resident halfwits here say you just have to laugh and not take them seriously. They're morons that represent 1% of the population. If you listened to the media coverage about our election you'd think it was a 50/50 proposition when it was the biggest thumping imaginable to the Coalition. But what got all the airtime and made the news and got amplified? The people screaming the loudest. Twitter, FB, Instagram aren't real life. Twitter in particular is a cesspool. Fuck me the comments about the Indians that died in the plane crash were off the scale.


As for women, look at it from a woman's perspective. She's gone for a jog and some bloke starts following her 10 or so metres behind. Now you or me wouldn't give a shit thinking 'well, he's going to pass me shortly' but a woman has to, based on past experiences to other women and weighing up worst case scenarios, assume that things could go south and starts thinking about exit and defence strategies because, as low as the risk is, if she's being assaulted, it'll be by a bloke.

The fact that a woman can't go for a walk by herself somewhere without thinking something might happen to her is a disgrace. No wonder they all say they'd choose the bear.

So yeah it sucks for you and me to be thought of as somebody that could be a potential rapist but from their perspective that's something they have to consider. Instead of blaming women for thinking we're all rapists how about calling out shit, misogynistic behaviour when we see it (not saying you don't) because it's blokes killing women at the rate of 1 a week in Australia and god knows how many more are being assaulted here in Australia.

 

[Muz]

I agree, male abuse is seemingly higher but based on probability, across the entire population of all men? It's incredibly low.

It's not seemingly higher. It's way higher. It's still low overall in the male population but that doesn't mean men get a pass here.

The chances of you being beaten up, robbed, murdered or raped by a woman are practically zero.

 

[JS96]

You have to try and ignore the extremes that's why when I read what the resident halfwits here say you just have to laugh and not take them seriously. They're morons that represent 1% of the population. If you listened to the media coverage about our election you'd think it was a 50/50 proposition when it was the biggest thumping imaginable to the Coalition. But what got all the airtime and made the news and got amplified? The people screaming the loudest. Twitter, FB, Instagram aren't real life. Twitter in particular is a cesspool. Fuck me the comments about the Indians that died in the plane crash were off the scale.


As for women, look at it from a woman's perspective. She's gone for a jog and some bloke starts following her 10 or so metres behind. Now you or me wouldn't give a shit thinking 'well, he's going to pass me shortly' but a woman has to, based on past experiences to other women and weighing up worst case scenarios, assume that things could go south and starts thinking about exit and defence strategies because, as low as the risk is, if she's being assaulted, it'll be by a bloke.

The fact that a woman can't go for a walk by herself somewhere without thinking something might happen to her is a disgrace. No wonder they all say they'd choose the bear.

So yeah it sucks for you and me to be thought of as somebody that could be a potential rapist but from their perspective that's something they have to consider. Instead of blaming women for thinking we're all rapists how about calling out shit, misogynistic behaviour when we see it (not saying you don't) because it's blokes killing women at the rate of 1 a week in Australia and god knows how many more are being assaulted here in Australia.

Your final paragraph sums it up. About the second response, I'm not referring to men vs women here rather proportionally men are still incredibly innocent and wrongly ridiculed. I agree we need to just work on eradicating the bunch who do bad things.

Do a random survey and I'm sure so many men would be baffled by the behaviour but when they're twisted, alone and the opportunity strikes, it happens.

 

[LFC]

Fark Muz
MAFS types are all Sydney on the streets and I travel to Melb and Briz no diff - out of cities bit more normal.
How’s the fashion parade on regular walkways nowadays - those massive eyelash’s etc Kardashians on parade.
Though good eye candy but damn it’s MAFS on the streets alright.

I’ll catch up on the posts after dinna or so