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LFC said:
M you don't know my past voting - and the many alternatives are just sweet bugger all noise.
Thats part of the main prob - greens, patriots, trumpets, teal, gender this, hanson, indingenous, seriously do sweet f all but scream abuse each other at Q time, in the senate.
Most will be happy albo gets in, hand outs, hecs rebates, mediscare etc this is the ozzie way to tick the box, change ? seems to be always the same in the end.
Don't get aggro for this is the plain facts getting a $ despite the countless problems at hand.
I'd enjoy far better accountability direction but yer, somewhere over the rainbow its a dream.
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balance of power is the point of independents

this is an important bargaining chip when legislation is voted on which requires support of said independents to pass
 
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Muz said:
Aww diddums. As a bonus it upsets you and it's more rent free space in your head.
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It seems only homo erotic RFK content makes him happy

He really should be grateful I’m choosing not to embarrass him.
 
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Muz said:
It's not wasted. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have a preferential voting system. The vote gets where it needs to get after your preferred bloke or sheila is knocked out.

You say both sides are shit but refuse to consider any alternatives.

If nothing changes LFC, nothing changes. It's that simple.

But keep voting for the same mob you have your whole life and expect things to change.
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It's interesting to watch the vote counter in an electorate and see how candidates win based on 3rd and even 4th preferences. It's that close sometimes. First past the post in the UK is ridiculous.

Germany has something similar to NZ and there are overhang spots to compensate. There is some silly 5% hurdle meaning if your party as a whole gets under 5% you don't get in which makes independent running impossible. Yet there is a special provision for a small Danish minded party in Schleswig Holstein.
 
LFC said:
M you don't know my past voting - and the many alternatives are just sweet bugger all noise.
Thats part of the main prob - greens, patriots, trumpets, teal, gender this, hanson, indingenous, seriously do sweet f all but scream abuse each other at Q time, in the senate.
Most will be happy albo gets in, hand outs, hecs rebates, mediscare etc this is the ozzie way to tick the box, change ? seems to be always the same in the end.
Don't get aggro for this is the plain facts getting a $ despite the countless problems at hand.
I'd enjoy far better accountability direction but yer, somewhere over the rainbow its a dream.
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Fact is, if the Greens get more influence, nothing will change. Why? Because they're bumblingly incompetent with ideas that don't work and then just shrug their shoulders when they don't work. Basically they'll try to implement their ideas, realise they won't be able to get the funding via more corporate taxes, in turn leading to more job cuts, while increasing immigration, putting hardship on those who voted for them.

The way forward is finding members in the major parties who have innovative views and promoting them. Parties shift internally themselves. If they're smart they'll latch on to what people want and that'll be the winner. They're idiotic that they don't.
 
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LFC said:
M you don't know my past voting - and the many alternatives are just sweet bugger all noise.
Thats part of the main prob - greens, patriots, trumpets, teal, gender this, hanson, indingenous, seriously do sweet f all but scream abuse each other at Q time, in the senate.
Most will be happy albo gets in, hand outs, hecs rebates, mediscare etc this is the ozzie way to tick the box, change ? seems to be always the same in the end.
Don't get aggro for this is the plain facts getting a $ despite the countless problems at hand.
I'd enjoy far better accountability direction but yer, somewhere over the rainbow its a dream.
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It's the dream you say but you refuse to consider voting differently?
 
@LFC you're right. I don't know how you vote but you seem pissed off at the big mobs. In which case preferential voting is your best bet.

Not only that if they poll more than 4% they qualify for grants and electoral funding. Something Hanson too advantage of a long time ago.

If they qualify for funding they're better prepared next time.

In any case the more voices, the more representative parliament is.

The Coalition is lawyers and farmers and Labor is student activists and union hacks.

They're not representative.
 
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Happened before smartphones and if this is the best the news can cover, then it's minimal. A few ranting crazies on a footpath are standard. The first one doesn't even seen political rather he was annoyed about the narrowness of the footpath.
 
Muz said:
I'll be voting 1 for our Teal local and the secular science party in the senate. Then a few others in the senate like the greens and then Labor. Pauline Hanson will be last. It's actually a toss up between her and those Trumpet fuckheads.

It's important to have a cross bench in the senate.
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i guess we should go assaulting all trumpet volunteers now too cause they are "fuckheads".


The tolerant left lol
 
Beretta said:
i guess we should go assaulting all trumpet volunteers now too cause they are "fuckheads".


The tolerant left lol
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Blah blah blah. Where did I say assault anyone?

Anyone punching anyone at a polling station is an idiot.

Well done for finding an extreme case to make a point.

Now riddle me this. The exclusive brethren can't vote and are exempt from voting due to their religious status but the Coalition is bussing them in en masse to harangue and harass voters at key marginal seats. Your example is a one off loon, this is organised and systematic. Are you ok with that?

I know what's worse, do you?

www.abc.net.au

Secretive church sect followers told to deny beliefs on voting, in campaign backing Coalition

Members of a secretive Christian sect are being given instructions on how to lie about their beliefs against voting in elections, in an apparent coordinated effort to campaign for the Liberal and National parties.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
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