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Australian transfers 25-26 Summer

Monoethnic Social Club said:
hahaha sorry mate... I was looking forwrd to having at least two of our boys in the Prem, Now Triantis is persona non grata apparently and Gauci is out on loan to some village team.... :( I miss the 90s
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yeah me too

I suspect we will have a few players make the jump but nothing like before
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
hahaha sorry mate... I was looking forwrd to having at least two of our boys in the Prem, Now Triantis is persona non grata apparently and Gauci is out on loan to some village team.... :( I miss the 90s
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grazorblade said:
yeah me too

I suspect we will have a few players make the jump but nothing like before
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The competition is so much stronger than in the 90s now,

The Africans now are stronger more skillful & cheaper than the Aussies in the 90s & can also run all day.
 
Robbos said:
The competition is so much stronger than in the 90s now,

The Africans now are stronger more skillful & cheaper than the Aussies in the 90s & can also run all day.
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other countries seem to have kept pace though with the increased competition

if we had a h&a national youth league, colts, underage sides down to u6s at a league clubs and reserve teams every year of the a league like we did in the 90s, perhaps we decline regardless, but I doubt we decline as much!
 
grazorblade said:
other countries seem to have kept pace though with the increased competition

if we had a h&a national youth league, colts, underage sides down to u6s at a league clubs and reserve teams every year of the a league like we did in the 90s, perhaps we decline regardless, but I doubt we decline as much!
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We didn't decline, we moved forward too slowly. It was very different football back then, the British clubs, especially just below the top 2-3 were more physical & Australia produced lots of good physical players.
However football changed, the skillful countries got their fitness & mental strength right, their physicality & the physical teams like England & Germany, got more skillful players.
Our strength in the 90s early 2000s was based on our physicality not our skillfulness. We are playing catch up.
Look at Australia v Japan in 2006, they were more skillful than us, but we were fitter & stronger (physically stronger), they continued to work on their skill & also added physical work, while we grew only slightly in the skillful side of the game.
I have watched the game here for 50 years & we have not been known in all that time as a skillful footballing nation, it was physical.
 
Bring back the NYL along with the Championship will do wonders in developing more talent, we are heading in the right direction just got to continue the momentum with giving opportunities to young players going because from what I’ve seen the talent is there in this country.
 
Barca4life said:
Bring back the NYL along with the Championship will do wonders in developing more talent, we are heading in the right direction just got to continue the momentum with giving opportunities to young players going because from what I’ve seen the talent is there in this country.
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The lack of national youth league does my head in

Jpl starts next season independent of the fa and apl, not sure if its a replacement
 
Robbos said:
We didn't decline, we moved forward too slowly. It was very different football back then, the British clubs, especially just below the top 2-3 were more physical & Australia produced lots of good physical players.
However football changed, the skillful countries got their fitness & mental strength right, their physicality & the physical teams like England & Germany, got more skillful players.
Our strength in the 90s early 2000s was based on our physicality not our skillfulness. We are playing catch up.
Look at Australia v Japan in 2006, they were more skillful than us, but we were fitter & stronger (physically stronger), they continued to work on their skill & also added physical work, while we grew only slightly in the skillful side of the game.
I have watched the game here for 50 years & we have not been known in all that time as a skillful footballing nation, it was physical.
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Im not so sure, we definitely were on the physical side but not as much as say a scotland, we had players like zelic, okon, kewell, viduka, lazaridis, bresc, grella. Tom Byer who undertook japans technical revolution pointed to the technical superiority of Australian players back then compared to japan and today

But that aside, if we had a league academies from year 1, going to u6 rather than u13, if we had a 26 round nyl every year from 2005, plus reserve teams in the state leagues and colt teams in the nyl, if we had the ais continue, is it plausible to you that there would have been 0 difference?
 
Cunningstunt said:
Would a youth league be preferable to playing against men in the npl? Or would you see it complimenting the current set up?
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Both, you learn different things playing the best youth and playing men. Can also have a clear path for kids either

Academy-> nyl->npl-> seniors

Or

Academy->npl->nyl-> seniors

Depending how the club wants to do it

It also keeps promising kids around longer because they can still feel a sense of progress if there is a way to level up before cracking the senior team
 
grazorblade said:
Im not so sure, we definitely were on the physical side but not as much as say a scotland, we had players like zelic, okon, kewell, viduka, lazaridis, bresc, grella. Tom Byer who undertook japans technical revolution pointed to the technical superiority of Australian players back then compared to japan and today

But that aside, if we had a league academies from year 1, going to u6 rather than u13, if we had a 26 round nyl every year from 2005, plus reserve teams in the state leagues and colt teams in the nyl, if we had the ais continue, is it plausible to you that there would have been 0 difference?
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Yes 100% that would have made a great difference, as you said the players coming thru now have far better skilled than those currently plying their trade in the Championship. I did say we didn't decline but moved forward very slowly when the football (Barcelona) revolution happened. The whole world concentrated on skill & we coming from a low base didn't react quick enough.

Hiddink, himself said circa 2006, while the players were professional & gave everything fitness wise, we lacked skills. I was in Germany in 06 & so impressed with our performance against Brazil approached some Brazilian fans expecting praise, but they said we played Rugby (British) football, lacking skill, just physical.
During this period, we produced players on par or near enough to those you mentioned apart from Kewell & Viduka. The likes of Mooy, Luongo, Goodwin, Leckie, Jedinak & Rogic & even won an Asian cup & in 2022 performed better than any previous Socceroos side in the world cup. We've always had the ability to step up. Ange also tried to take us to the next level skillwise & was hounded for some failures (2018 campaign).

The Golden Generation played in the 2007 Asian cup, they were feted as stars because they all played in the PL by all the other countries, they failed, because the competition was played in the searing heat of Thailand & our players couldn't use stronger physical presence to dominate in that heat.

I don't follow the youth players as much as you these days, but happy to hear that things are on the improve.
 
Robbos said:
The competition is so much stronger than in the 90s now,

The Africans now are stronger more skillful & cheaper than the Aussies in the 90s & can also run all day.
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Sure, keep repeating the same old tired excuses... Estonia and Uzbekistan must be developmental and physical powerhouses...

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grazorblade said:
The lack of national youth league does my head in

Jpl starts next season independent of the fa and apl, not sure if its a replacement
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JPL is a South East Queensland private league being the brainchild of the latest podcast guest. It is not sanctioned by FA, to my knowledge. You could arguably class it as a renegade league.

It will not be a replacement for any of the other things you have mentioned
 
Robbos said:
Thanks for proving my point, look how few English players in the top 4 English sides.

'Estonia and Uzbekistan must be developmental and physical powerhouses'
Up there with Egypt, such a world power in the 90s.
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3 African players though.... but your false point still stands I suppose? Or are you changing it again?
 
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