John Aloisi on youngsters going to europe

[grazorblade]

Aloisi: ‘Cut-throat’ A-League needed

Australian talent heading to Europe to play their club football sometimes suffer from a lack of A-League games and the shortage of matches in the national competition with a proper consequence, according to a Socceroos great.

au.news.yahoo.com

hoping we can at least get a 30 game season and a 2nd cup in the next few years....

 

[grazorblade]

nice to pair with this while at work

 

[OnTheShoulder]

There is a woefully inadequate amount of football played in this country and the sheer fucking terror that the clubs feel about not doing well and getting relegated spurs people on to greater things. We don't have that psychological incentive to be the best we could be if there is no consequence for failure.

 

[LFC]

Yet people argue due to funds P/R isn’t an option let alone do something to get there sooner than later.
NST and below needs a move on for it ain’t gonna happen with APL.
They are the Great Wall of football here that keeps anything moving ahead.
Short season longest off season - limited spots - youth teams favoured wrongly in NPL comps - NO alignments.
We’re in a hole !

 

[TheSelectFew]

Yet people argue due to funds P/R isn’t an option let alone do something to get there sooner than later.
NST and below needs a move on for it ain’t gonna happen with APL.
They are the Great Wall of football here that keeps anything moving ahead.
Short season longest off season - limited spots - youth teams favoured wrongly in NPL comps - NO alignments.
We’re in a hole !

I've said this a million times.

 

[LFC]

I've said this a million times.

Many of us have for years but we are shouted down even from devoted supporters of game here.
Typical excuses - the ethnics, the NSL etcetc
Such closed minds fixed on a dream that isn’t right for the game period.
Oh I luv AL believe me it’s better than anything before and I hope one day things improve and we get P/R - what a load of rot you are part of the problem as well !
Sorry fellas

 

[Decentric]

Aloisi: ‘Cut-throat’ A-League needed

Australian talent heading to Europe to play their club football sometimes suffer from a lack of A-League games and the shortage of matches in the national competition with a proper consequence, according to a Socceroos great.

au.news.yahoo.com

hoping we can at least get a 30 game season and a 2nd cup in the next few years....

Thanks for posting this , Grazor.

Very interesting article.

 

[LFC]

As JA quotes we don’t have enough games let alone a complete system that can improve this huge gap we have between 2 football models makes for frustrating reading.
Then we see oh keep an eye on these youngsters coming through - I wish them so very well but really what’s going to become and when…….i feel so sorry for them for it’s like going up a creek without a paddle for so many.
They struggle to survive.
I know this isn’t comparing apples with apples whatsoever but you can only marvel what a Club like LFC can do !
A CL game about to start resting so many regular start up players even though LFC will qualify for the next stage already just look at the type of game these youngsters get experience !
Look at the ages this is what to marvel at

Who are 9 LFC academy players & 5 graduates in squad vs. PSV?

Read here.

www.thisisanfield.com

 

[NicCarBel]

Yet people argue due to funds P/R isn’t an option let alone do something to get there sooner than later.
NST and below needs a move on for it ain’t gonna happen with APL.
They are the Great Wall of football here that keeps anything moving ahead.
Short season longest off season - limited spots - youth teams favoured wrongly in NPL comps - NO alignments.
We’re in a hole !

To be fair though - every state (As far as I'm aware, except for TAS at the moment) has P/R set up from NPL and below, so it won't be that hard to align NST with that.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

To be fair though - every state (As far as I'm aware, except for TAS at the moment) has P/R set up from NPL and below, so it won't be that hard to align NST with that.

HAHAHAHAHA you would htink it "won't be that hard to align NST with that" but then you have "pundits" like Spider jumping on board the APL gravy train asking "where the cash at?" and claiming clubs like his Sydney Croatia will fleece the juniors regoes to fund the NST ...

 

[HappyGuus]

To be fair though - every state (As far as I'm aware, except for TAS at the moment) has P/R set up from NPL and below, so it won't be that hard to align NST with that.

Yeah I think Tassie had pro\rel but ditched it. FTas want to bring it back, but apparently some players\clubs prefer staying in conferences because they don't like travelling What a piss weak excuse, it's not even that far and a beautiful drive! They need more clubs and players taking football seriously. Maybe an NST\A-League club would help.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Yeah I think Tassie had pro\rel but ditched it. FTas want to bring it back, but apparently some players\clubs prefer staying in conferences because they don't like travelling What a piss weak excuse, it's not even that far and a beautiful drive! They need more clubs and players taking football seriously. Maybe an NST\A-League club would help.

watch this space.... South Hobart came up to Melbourne last week for some friendlies and apparently they are gung ho for NST....

 

[NicCarBel]

Yeah I think Tassie had pro\rel but ditched it. FTas want to bring it back, but apparently some players\clubs prefer staying in conferences because they don't like travelling What a piss weak excuse, it's not even that far and a beautiful drive! They need more clubs and players taking football seriously. Maybe an NST\A-League club would help.

Hmm.. I will say it is kind of far (I remember my breakdown of away trip distances for NPL that I did on the old site had a prospective match in TAS (can't remember the teams it involved though) as the only fixture that broke into the top 15 that didn't involve Yoogali SC from Griffith travelling to/from Canberra.

But I do agree it's a piss-weak excuse. The trip happens a very small amount of times per season for it to be an actual issue other than whining.

 

[HappyGuus]

watch this space.... South Hobart came up to Melbourne last week for some friendlies and apparently they are gung ho for NST....

Yeah the bid from Team Tasmania was actually from South Hobart. I still remember the SEN report that said the team was all but in the NST. Not sure what changed there.

Hmm.. I will say it is kind of far (I remember my breakdown of away trip distances for NPL that I did on the old site had a prospective match in TAS (can't remember the teams it involved though) as the only fixture that broke into the top 15 that didn't involve Yoogali SC from Griffith travelling to/from Canberra.

But I do agree it's a piss-weak excuse. The trip happens a very small amount of times per season for it to be an actual issue other than whining.

Perth to Sydney in over 4 hours. The longest trip in Tassie might be Devonport - Hobart? That's 3 hours, luxury haha!

 

[NicCarBel]

Yeah the bid from Team Tasmania was actually from South Hobart. I still remember the SEN report that said the team was all but in the NST. Not sure what changed there.


Perth to Sydney in over 4 hours. The longest trip in Tassie might be Devonport - Hobart? That's 3 hours, luxury haha!

NPL away trips, so everything below A-League.

Somerset <> Taroona was the hypothetical btw, just checked it up (351km).
Including all 'prospective' trips in Capital Football (eg, clubs from 2nd tier v clubs from 1st tier) would have made this the 13th longest (distance) trip in Australia (again.. NPL level and below)

 

[grazorblade]

HAHAHAHAHA you would htink it "won't be that hard to align NST with that" but then you have "pundits" like Spider jumping on board the APL gravy train asking "where the cash at?" and claiming clubs like his Sydney Croatia will fleece the juniors regoes to fund the NST ...

can't watch spider's interview in england coz its geoblocked
did he claim that sydney will pay for the nst by fleecing juniors?

 

[grazorblade]

Yeah I think Tassie had pro\rel but ditched it. FTas want to bring it back, but apparently some players\clubs prefer staying in conferences because they don't like travelling What a piss weak excuse, it's not even that far and a beautiful drive! They need more clubs and players taking football seriously. Maybe an NST\A-League club would help.

will be interesting to see if fa tas' fa cup results decline over the next few years

 

[HappyGuus]

will be interesting to see if fa tas' fa cup results decline over the next few years

Their top end is fine, actually better than other federations. They are ranked 5th based on Australia Cup results, ahead of ACT, NNSW, WA, and NT. Devonport usually the ones getting results.

They've really punched above their weight. And I think Pignata will only improve things too. Important couple of years coming up in Tassie.

 

[grazorblade]

Their top end is fine, actually better than other federations. They are ranked 5th based on Australia Cup results, ahead of ACT, NNSW, WA, and NT. Devonport usually the ones getting results.

They've really punched above their weight. And I think Pignata will only improve things too. Important couple of years coming up in Tassie.

fair enough, but I would expect, all things being equal, that the npls with p&r should improve quicker than those without

 

[NicCarBel]

fair enough, but I would expect, all things being equal, that the npls with p&r should improve quicker than those without

I think at the bottom end they do, but not at the top end.

ACT for example, since 2019 when it was introduced (and I’m going to link Riverina and Yoogali as one club for this example), only twice out of the 5 seasons with P/R has a club relegated from the NPL been able to get promoted back to the NPL. Granted, the fifth is starting their quest to get promoted next season, so that’s still only a 50% strike rate.

Although, in saying that, O’Connor is a success story here, being promoted, and then winning the league two seasons later, and then the Federation Cup the season after that (or maybe it was a double - memory is off sometimes) and now being a regular contender, and if anything, other than Canberra Croatia, the top of the league has really dropped off, with two powerhouses being relegated.