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Match stats/analysis for recent Socceroo games

Now have the 1v1s for every Socceroo on the pitch against Japan. I'll present win/loss ledger for individual players based on heading, body on body/strength duels, tackling, and dribbling actions, but will only break them down if posters pose specific questions about players.

There have been some big surprises - as usually happens.

There were 141 unique 1v1 duels - which is quite a high number for a match. Sometimes there might be only 90-100 unique 1v1s per game.

Circati - won 11, lost 1. 1 had no result. Ledger of plus 10.

Degenek - won 9, lost 2. Ledger of plus 9.

Burgess - won 6, lost 2. Ledger of plus 6.

Miller - won 7 and lost 7. 1 had no result. Ledger is neutral.

O'Neill - won 7, lost 1. Ledger plus 6.

Teague - won 3, lost 0. Ledger plus 3.

Behich - won 3, lost 6. 1 had no result. Ledger minus 3.

Boyle - won 3, lost 5. Ledger minus 2.

Borrello - won 7, lost 7. 2 had no outcome. Borrello is neutral.

Metcalfe - won 6, lost 3. Ledger plus 3.

Subs:
McGree - won 8, lost 1. Ledger plus 7.
Yazbek - won 2, lost 0. Ledger plus 2.
Duke - won 6, lost 2. Ledger plus 6.
Geria - won 2, lost 0. 2 had no result. ledger plus 2.
Arzani - won 1, lost 0. Ledger plus 1.

A few notes. I haven't done this for 5-10 years.

The best positions for winning 1v1s are CB and Def Mid. Often in duels these players have an advantageous body shape when contesting the duel.

Full backs - have the disadvantage of often the best opposition dribblers takin them on in space. It isn't perfect, but even if a wide opposition player half gets around a full back, and crosses effectively, this counts as a loss for the FB.

Attacking mids, wingers, forwards often confront duels in a disadvantageous body position.
 
On the recent G and G podcast Alex made some sweeping statements about certain Aus players and coaches.

Alex waxed lyrical about Circati. I agree in his case. His 1v1 record against Japan was outstanding with a ledger of plus 10. However, on one occasion, he was beaten all ends up by the Japanese left winger.

Still he out-tackled Japan all the time, beat them in all heading duels, plus winning all his body on body duels. AC even dribbled past them on 2 occasions - rare for a CB.

AC is also composed on the ball and positions himself well to make timely intercepts. If he isn't already, he will soon be our best player if he continues his current trajectory.
 
Alex claims on G and G Podcast that Boyle should be selected every time.

Against Japan he did surprisingly well in 1v1s. I intuit, he is steamrolled a lot on 1v1s, being quite physically puny. He often uses his body well to get between the opponent and the ball, but often relies on the ref to call a foul.

1v1s against Japan for Boyle

Heading - won 1, lost 3.
Body on body/strength - won 2, lost 2.
Tackles - none.
Take ons - he dribbled around an opponent on 1 occasion.

A total 1v1 ledger of minus 1.

He had 1 shot on target and another close miss when shooting.

One Australian strength is physicality with body on body strength. There are more Aussie forwards and wingers, who can hold their own, even beat their opposition over a whole game.

Boyle is a decent technician on the ball with first touch, dribbling 1v1, reasonable handling speed in passing and moving, but I think other Aussies are arguably more capable with the ball at their feet.

Boyle also has a great engine, being able to sprint backwards towards the Aus goal by tracking back to keep the defensive shape compact - and - forwards on the pitch, opening quality passing lanes that sometimes present as dummy runs.
 
Aus seemed to have our right flank players contesting more 1v1s than on our left.

I can’t quite remember if Japan played mainly down the Aus right flank?
 
Quicky said:
They did. They targeted Miller who got soundly beaten. We were lucky their fill in left wing had no end product.
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Actually Miller was only dribbled around twice, Quicky.

This is the one of the wonders of this sort of data. I’m now doing the Saudi game, but Miller had a neutral 1v1 ledger against Japan - not a plus or minus score.

Tackling - Miller lost 1 and won 1.
Body on body - won 3 and lost 4.
Heading - won 2 lost 1.
Dribbling - dribbled around 2 times.

Wonder if Popa was happy with this?

They might not have known much about Circati either - which helped our cause if they targeted the right flank.
 
Moreover, the results tend to confirm your view that the right side of Aus- O’Neill and Boyle in the first half, Miller and Circati, copped more 1v1 contests than the left side - was targeted, Quicky.
 
Decentric said:
Actually Miller was only dribbled around twice, Quicky.

This is the one of the wonders of this sort of data. I’m now doing the Saudi game, but Miller had a neutral 1v1 ledger against Japan - not a plus or minus score.

Tackling - Miller lost 1 and won 1.
Body on body - won 3 and lost 4.
Heading - won 2 lost 1.
Dribbling - dribbled around 2 times.

Wonder if Popa was happy with this?

They might not have known much about Circati either - which helped our cause if they targeted the right flank.
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He got beaten 8 times by those stats which is a lot. There was certainly a lot of dribbling down Japans left side so it makes me wonder where Miller was those other occasions? Out of position? Defending elsewhere?
 
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Quicky said:
He got beaten 8 times by those stats which is a lot. There was certainly a lot of dribbling down Japans left side so it makes me wonder where Miller was those other occasions? Out of position? Defending elsewhere?
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he was outplayed countless times by their left side attack no 2ways about the stats D presents.
They were having fun with such ease like swtching off a light.
Turned with ease, stood up, flick ball by gone, other times just wasn't there to cover the open space.
Give him credit for body brawn as D mentions, imo thats his strength and a strong cross as long as he looks up knowing where to put it and thats a lottery.
Got a noggin to head the ball and scored another time.
 
Quicky said:
He got beaten 8 times by those stats which is a lot. There was certainly a lot of dribbling down Japans left side so it makes me wonder where Miller was those other occasions? Out of position? Defending elsewhere?
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I'm just about to post the Saudi stats.

It seems in both the Japan and Saudi games, Miller is close to contesting the most 1v1 duels in both games!

Japan
Tackles - Won 1 and lost 1.
Steals ( dispossessed whilst with ball at feet, not 50/50 tackle) - won 0 and lost 2.
Headers - won 2 lost 1.
Body on body - won 4 lost 1.
Take ons - he was dribbled around by Japanese on 2 occasions.
15 contests in all.
Ledger of neutral.

Saudi
Tackles - won 1, lost 0.
Steals - won 1 , lost 1.
Headers - won 8, lost 3, 1 had no outcome. ( Most won later in game).
Body on body - won 2, lost 0.
Take ons - was dribbled around 3 times.
20 total contests!
Ledger of plus 5 over the game.

Given Miller often marked the brilliant Saudi ball player, Al Dhosari, being dribbled around 3 times isn't too bad!
 
Aus 2, Saudi 1.

131 unique 1v1 duels contested.

Geria - contested 13 unique 1v1s, won 10 and lost 3. Ledger plus 10.

Degenek - contested 6 unique 1v1s, won 4 and lost 2. Ledger plus 2.

Burgess - contested 12 unique 1v1s, won 7 and lost 3, with 2 neutral. Ledger plus 4. Was struggling in first half.

Miller - 20 unique 1v1s, won 12 and lost 7, with 1 neutral. Ledger plus 5.

Yazbek - 9 unique 1v1s, won 7, lost 2. Ledger plus 5.

O'Neill - 18 unique 1v1s, won 12, lost 4, with 2 neutral. Ledger plus 8.

Behich - 15 unique 1v1s, won 9, lost 5, with 1 neutral. Ledger plus 4.

Boyle - 6 unique 1v1s, won 1, lost 5. Ledger minus 5.

Duke - 9 unique 1v1s, won 4, lost 5. Ledger minus 1.

Metcalfe - 10 unique 1v1s, won 6 , lost 4. Ledger plus 2.

Subs :
Teague - 5 unique 1v1s, won 3, lost 2. Ledger plus 1.

Toure - 9 unique 1v1s, won 6, lost 3. Ledger plus 3.

McGree - 4 unique 1v1s, won 3, lost 1. Ledger plus 2.

Tilio - 3 unique 1v1s, won 1, lost 1, with 1 neutral. Ledger neutral or 0.
 
seriously you know what stats provide sometimes, smoke and mirrors what actually occurs around the pitch of X player and outcome.
So it proves both Jap/Saudi targeted Millers side - not half obvious rocket science why do you think ? they did their home work and Behich probably and due to his experience is more of a challenge to break down.

D, he may have just got dribbled by 3 times but what of the build play around his zone turning into attacking threats.
Thats the money ball stats do not provide, say 10 times he didn't get dribbled by but the winger turned inside with the ball and gave to supporting runner in turn next play was a another touch into our box or a shot nearing the box.
Its the open play created around him despite tackles won, steals/body to body etcetc......

Its for all to see plain and simple whilst watching "live" - you know who you can rely on, who gets owned, who's out of position, who makes dumb calls, then what they do well naturally.
He got alot to learn for me and @ 24 he's coming to his peak years.
 
Quicky said:
He got beaten 8 times by those stats which is a lot. There was certainly a lot of dribbling down Japans left side so it makes me wonder where Miller was those other occasions? Out of position? Defending elsewhere?
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Miller was only dribbled around on 2 occasions. With a Steal he had the ball taken off him on 1 occasion.

Circati was dribbled around on 1 occasion wide. The only duel he lost.

O'Neill and Boyle lost a few speed duels - being outpaced. All this adds to depict a scenario on our right where players were beaten a bit - 6 - 8 times over a game?

Sometimes Japan passed through the Aus def team unit, whilst no player was culpable in a 1v1 contest in some passages of play.

Yazbek moved to the right DM, replacing Teague as a sub, whilst O'Neill moved from right DM to left DM, to replace Teague in the second half.

Yazbek was not dribbled around at all. He only contested two, 1v1s, winning both.
 
LFC said:
seriously you know what stats provide sometimes, smoke and mirrors what actually occurs around the pitch of X player and outcome.
So it proves both Jap/Saudi targeted Millers side - not half obvious rocket science why do you think ? they did their home work and Behich probably and due to his experience is more of a challenge to break down.

D, he may have just got dribbled by 3 times but what of the build play around his zone turning into attacking threats.
Thats the money ball stats do not provide, say 10 times he didn't get dribbled by but the winger turned inside with the ball and gave to supporting runner in turn next play was a another touch into our box or a shot nearing the box.
Its the open play created around him despite tackles won, steals/body to body etcetc......

Its for all to see plain and simple whilst watching "live" - you know who you can rely on, who gets owned, who's out of position, who makes dumb calls, then what they do well naturally.
He got alot to learn for me and @ 24 he's coming to his peak years.
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Stats are part of the picture.

Sometimes one has to credit the calibre of the opposition. The entire Aus team unit struggled to negate the Japanese team on the ball. Importantly, Japan didn't create a lot of chances considering the territorial and possession advantage they had though.

The points you raise have merit. A while back, I thought Miller wasn't a worthy selection, but he has strengths. He is growing on me.

Behich didn't play that well against Japan, until he scored.

Even more than the live game, the stats, particularly against Saudi, showed we struggled to possess the ball for sustained periods.

Against Japan in the last 15 mins we started to get more possession.

Even right to the end of the game, we struggled to impose ourselves at all against Saudi, despite being ahead late in the game when they had no chance of qualifying.

In Soccernomics written by Simon Kuper, he stated that all EPL coaches now use stats/data. Whereas in the past it was only SAF, Wenger and Sam Allardyce. It was thought that the former duo gained an advantage over their rival coaches by using stats.

Although SAF made a huge mistake with Jaap Staam. His data incorrectly showed he was making less tackles. He sold Staam to an Italian club who went on to win a Champ League title!
 
LFC said:
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Its for all to see plain and simple whilst watching "live" - you know who you can rely on, who gets owned, who's out of position, who makes dumb calls, then what they do well naturally.
He got alot to learn for me and @ 24 he's coming to his peak years.
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Coaches learn a lot through video analysis after a game has been played.

If a coach evaluates, one often has a split second to make an appraisal live.

Players also vary from game to game. In the last 2 games Burgess had one horror half. Boyle was far better in one game than the other. One Aus defender had far more 1 v1 contests in one game than the other.

Another heavily criticised Aus defensive midfielder who is unpopular with G and G fans, has proven to be a very effective ball winner.

Given the nature of the last games with the Aus players being under a lot of pressure from opposition Squeezing pressure, hence limited time and space when the Aus team is in possession, a few new players have emerged - particularly using the slowed down videos to compile stats.
 
My read on rewatch was they targeted the right side when metcalf was on the left but then targeted behichs side in the second half when metcalf switched sides
 
Decentric said:
Interesting?

Have you looked at a replay, or two?
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Just once. Was looking for big picture patterns like the one i mentioned as well as play out tactics and pressing triggers

Would need a couple more watches to see what else i pick up

In particular curious how zone 14 became pagans paddock. You mentioned the way we played out meant if we lost the ball they would be tempted to go wide so will look for that

I think leckie is as strong a defender as metcalf, i can see why he wanted to play him. Would have created a complete shutdown in defence while providing more speed and an aerial target for the long balls we played
 
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