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Not sure if anyone watched the Qatar GP given the shithouse middle east hours - but hilarious is all the british fans I've come across online thinking Lando Norris was hard done by for his penalty for "failing to observe yellow flags" during the race - even though given the same punishment as all 3 of the most recent instances of this happening in the past 10 years.

On the slightly relevant note - the yellow flag that he did ignore should have been more than that, and is yet another ingredient in my "This is what you asked for by false outrage at Michael Masi for Abu Dhabi 2021" stew.
 
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NicCarBel said:
They finally came to the right decision, but the politics leading up to it was fucked.
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The right decision was political regardless MSC.
Yanky F1 owners know growth is all there to take grab.
They will ruin the true F1 DNA for like their sports they will turn the game into a show in time.
 
LFC said:
The right decision was political regardless MSC.
Yanky F1 owners know growth is all there to take grab.
They will ruin the true F1 DNA for like their sports they will turn the game into a show in time.
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That was my thinking too mate, but obvs don't follow religiously like you and Nic.... :)
 
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LFC said:
The right decision was political regardless MSC.
Yanky F1 owners know growth is all there to take grab.
They will ruin the true F1 DNA for like their sports they will turn the game into a show in time.
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Had to be the right people. I think the only ones to seriously consider were Andretti, Penske, Haas (already in), and Chip Ganassi, and also direct manufacturers, like Cadillac. Jaguar back in the early 2000's is probably the next closest comparison to Cadillac coming in - and while they were a bit of a shit show in terms of success and management, they at least overall kept with the F1 DNA, etc.

It is the sponsors and events that I'm worried about. The broadcast rights owners are on that track, and so has aspects of the Miami and Las Vegas GP's. Can also see it in the fanbase creeping in (which, unfortunately is what the broadcast rights owners are interested in).

From a sporting spetacle, I'm ok with Vegas. Miami not so much.
 
there sure must have been some angst towards Andretti, maybe the Teams didn't like it, obviously a Manufacturer would have been preffered hence GM/Cadillac espcially for the USA flag flying and growing supporter base behind the brand.

Yes Vegas seems to have grasped the F1 flavour whereas Miami is a "show" more than anything I hear you.
 
LFC said:
there sure must have been some angst towards Andretti, maybe the Teams didn't like it, obviously a Manufacturer would have been preffered hence GM/Cadillac espcially for the USA flag flying and growing supporter base behind the brand.

Yes Vegas seems to have grasped the F1 flavour whereas Miami is a "show" more than anything I hear you.
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McLaren, Williams, and weirdly enough Mercedes were the most outspoken ones - citing "they'll take away our sponsors" and essentially "the $200m payment we all agreed that a new team has to pay us to come in during this period of the sport is not enough anymore."
 
Yer I recall it was the other teams didn’t want to split their annual cut from funds.
Obviously FIA has worked them
 
LFC said:
Yer I recall it was the other teams didn’t want to split their annual cut from funds.
Obviously FIA has worked them
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Yeah something like that. Essentially they agreed to something a few years back, that they Hulk Hogan'd now (Doesn't work for me brother).

FIA don't care about the money side of things, they're technically just there to regulate, and grab their annual licence fee - so they approved Andretti first.

Word on the street, now that Cadillac is the lead in this venture (rather than Andretti Autosport originally), they've agreed to double their buy in from $200m, to $400m, so I gather that's what pushed them over the line for the teams to agree.
Monoethnic Social Club said:
I started watching the new Senna series on Netflix last night... it pretty good I think.
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Have heard ok things about this. As in - good to watch, but nothing groundbreaking if you've already seen the Senna doco from years back.
It's a dramatisation, so I would expect that anyways. Haven't had a chance to start on it yet
 
NicCarBel said:
Have heard ok things about this. As in - good to watch, but nothing groundbreaking if you've already seen the Senna doco from years back.
It's a dramatisation, so I would expect that anyways. Haven't had a chance to start on it yet
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Yeah mate, purely "entertainment" but rather well done I think.
 
NicCarBel said:
Might have to give it a start this weekend then I think - will see if I can get the missus into it. Will help her understand why I wanted the lego set I've been hinting at for christmas that I think she got me haha
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Obviously watched the doco years back but my admiration of him I had to watch this purley for my luv of F1 and 1 of the best ever drivers !
Schumi and ol Fangio stand with him but wow this guy was in a zone I don't think others went.
I can't put hamilton near these 3 let alone Senna.
Like Maradona/Pele/Messi the emotion/drive what gravitates me towards winners like these.
Took me back those days him competing and he did fight so many against him and came back and made them eat their words.
They shouldn't have raced that Sunday, Moseley was a DH - they took out the electronic aids end of previous season to hobble the Williams more so Senna.
IMO blood is on their hands - incl drivers/teams, they knew through practice Imola surface was shit, cars weren't safe enough due to the changes.
We lost a hero/legend and we had to lose him for safety to improve 110% from then on - maybe that was his destiny without realising.
Vale Aryton, your spirit lives on.
 
LFC said:
Obviously watched the doco years back but my admiration of him I had to watch this purley for my luv of F1 and 1 of the best ever drivers !
Schumi and ol Fangio stand with him but wow this guy was in a zone I don't think others went.
I can't put hamilton near these 3 let alone Senna.
Like Maradona/Pele/Messi the emotion/drive what gravitates me towards winners like these.
Took me back those days him competing and he did fight so many against him and came back and made them eat their words.
They shouldn't have raced that Sunday, Moseley was a DH - they took out the electronic aids end of previous season to hobble the Williams more so Senna.
IMO blood is on their hands - incl drivers/teams, they knew through practice Imola surface was shit, cars weren't safe enough due to the changes.
We lost a hero/legend and we had to lose him for safety to improve 110% from then on - maybe that was his destiny without realising.
Vale Aryton, your spirit lives on.
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Yep is a tragic ending that will always bring questions.


I have a weird metric to rate my greatest. Unfortunately it means Senna isn't up there. But essentially my "Mount Rushmore" is Fangio, Prost, Schumacher, Hamilton.
 
Yes tragic…..and as they say Motorsport is dangerous.

Yep I should add Prosti - methodical driver.
I can’t rate Hamilton despite his titles - thank Christ for Masi for I hated he went past Schumi :)
Hamilton can gf.
 
Probably a dumb idea getting in the ring two weeks before I go overseas. Took a hit to the ribs, fuck me it was bad

Been on the couch/in bed for a week. :oops:
 
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