She believes cup match threads

[libelous]

Definitely yet the power of certain squad members since before Staj is imbalanced. There have been times where the culture was really strong but it's very fragile too. All in all, a very strong coach is needed and a reset because I think numerous players shouldn't have automatic starts.

That may or may not be true but we do not have the depth to be leaving experienced players on the bench.

 

[zimbos05]

That may or may not be true but we do not have the depth to be leaving experienced players on the bench.

We certainly do have the depth. The issue with this thinking is that if we don't blood the youngsters and do the right thing by them, we definitely wont have the players we need when the experienced players retire. Lack of depth is definitely not the issue here.

 

[libelous]

We certainly do have the depth. The issue with this thinking is that if we don't blood the youngsters and do the right thing by them, we definitely wont have the players we need when the experienced players retire. Lack of depth is definitely not the issue here.

If depth is not a problem then name me a team that we can put out for a tournament such as this current one whilst leaving out our most experienced players.

 

[JS96]

That may or may not be true but we do not have the depth to be leaving experienced players on the bench.

I agree we're thin or raw but we will continue to be until they new batch get playing. TG played so many new players without any kind of plan so we ended up back to square one. We need a power vacuum by moving Van Egmond and Polkinghorne on and the slackers need benching.

 

[petszk]

SheBelieves is the worst name for a cup. So cringe.

LOL.

Here in WA, a couple of years ago, one of the league sponsors was a travel company named "Imagine Cruising".

I said at the time, I get the need for sponsorship and advertising, but surely someone looked at the league named "Imagine Cruising 12 year old girls" and thought "Hmmm.. You know, maybe we should re-jig the wording in that title"

 

[zimbos05]

If depth is not a problem then name me a team that we can put out for a tournament such as this current one whilst leaving out our most experienced players.

I never said you leave out every single experience player. You need a good blend.

I'm just going to go with a basic 4-5-1

GK - Micah
RB - Capenter
CB - Hunt
CB - Grant
LB - Catley
RM - Raso
CM - Cooney-Cross
CM - Wheeler
AM - Fowler
LM - Sharn Frieier
ST - Laini Frieier/Torpey/Kerr

 

[Kitwally]

I never said you leave out every single experience player. You need a good blend.

I'm just going to go with a basic 4-5-1

GK - Micah
RB - Capenter
CB - Hunt
CB - Grant
LB - Catley
RM - Raso
CM - Cooney-Cross
CM - Wheeler
AM - Fowler
LM - Sharn Frieier
ST - Laini Frieier/Torpey/Kerr

Sharn Frieier and Kerr are injured. The only less experienced players added are Torpey and Laini Frieier?

 

[zimbos05]

Sharn Frieier and Kerr are injured. The only less experienced players added are Torpey and Laini Frieier?

I'm aware they are injured, I was just going with the team if all are available.

I also didn't realise you wanted a side with players who have less than 10 caps. That I can give you

GK - Lincoln
RB - Rankin
CB - Roestbakken
CB - Heatley
LB - Nash
RM - Galic
CM - Gomez
CM - Lowry
AM - Sharn Feieir/Laini Freieir
LM - McNamara

A lot of these names were in the mix when Tony was in charge, but he never gave them the chance, hence why their caps are so low.

 

[libelous]

I'm aware they are injured, I was just going with the team if all are available.

I also didn't realise you wanted a side with players who have less than 10 caps. That I can give you

GK - Lincoln
RB - Rankin
CB - Roestbakken
CB - Heatley
LB - Nash
RM - Galic
CM - Gomez
CM - Lowry
AM - Sharn Feieir/Laini Freieir
LM - McNamara

A lot of these names were in the mix when Tony was in charge, but he never gave them the chance, hence why their caps are so low.

You are the one who said there is plenty of depth and we don’t need the experienced players.
The lists you gave are using the same players that are in the Matildas for the current tournament.
We do have up and coming players but not playing at the level where they can replace the current squad.

 

[rebelliousfeminist974]

To be honest we also need to be looking at giving the fringe Matildas players on the periphery, namely the likes of Chids, Emily Gielnik and Chloe Logarzo callups in the future, as well as selecting based on form in the A-League. Even if we give the age grade Matildas players senior caps and eventually have them replacing the current squad there still needs to be a mixture of youth and experience I think.

 

[zimbos05]

You are the one who said there is plenty of depth and we don’t need the experienced players.
The lists you gave are using the same players that are in the Matildas for the current tournament.
We do have up and coming players but not playing at the level where they can replace the current squad.

There is plenty of depth. However, I never said we don't need experienced players. I've never said those words.

You said we have no depth, and the fact that I could make a second 11 using players that are in the current squad, and also not in the current squad shows a level of depth. We need more, no doubt, but it definitely is not an excuse to keep picking the same players by saying, "we have no depth" because it's a poor excuse and false.

 

[libelous]

There is plenty of depth. However, I never said we don't need experienced players. I've never said those words.

You said we have no depth, and the fact that I could make a second 11 using players that are in the current squad, and also not in the current squad shows a level of depth. We need more, no doubt, but it definitely is not an excuse to keep picking the same players by saying, "we have no depth" because it's a poor excuse and false.

I don’t think you understand what it takes to play at international level .

 

[RIMB]

I don’t think you understand what it takes to play at international level .

I know I don't.

My personal perspective says something like 70% skill and 30% organisation makes international level teams - with increased skill and organisation being the difference between world beaters and just competitive. The percentages are pulled straight out of my arse but they give an idea what I am thinking.

It is why lesser nations can be tough to beat and able to sneak a win from a higher placed team if their coach has them simply playing better team football.

For the Tillies (and the men's team while we are at it) we just need players to be fast and skilful enough to compete physically in their positions and we need them to play enough together under a decent manager to be cohesive.

The piecemeal cameos, playing people out of position, and endless alternative 'new faces' without spending the time and effort to make them into a team are where we fall down on new faces - not on the quality we have available.

The damning indictment to me is that Sermanni is still playing the same fresh faces he brought in last time he was head coach (or am I remembering that wrong?).

The players zimbo05 mentions are just some of the many with potential that we have available who could produce a better team effort and better overall team performance than the experienced old stagers who are not up to it anymore. 'We' just don't spend the time choosing replacements and developing them into the team - hoping for a miracle performance from an unending carousel of individuals on any day in an environment where cohesive team play is the name of the game.

To me depth is not an issue - we just haven't refilled the pool when water gets splashed out and to make it worse I think we have been squeezing the water back in from the togs/swimmers and towels we have used for some time now.

 

[zimbos05]

I don’t think you understand what it takes to play at international level .

Yeah, I mean working with International players at Manchester United. Coaching international players at NPL clubs. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

[libelous]

I know I don't.

My personal perspective says something like 70% skill and 30% organisation makes international level teams - with increased skill and organisation being the difference between world beaters and just competitive. The percentages are pulled straight out of my arse but they give an idea what I am thinking.

It is why lesser nations can be tough to beat and able to sneak a win from a higher placed team if their coach has them simply playing better team football.

For the Tillies (and the men's team while we are at it) we just need players to be fast and skilful enough to compete physically in their positions and we need them to play enough together under a decent manager to be cohesive.

The piecemeal cameos, playing people out of position, and endless alternative 'new faces' without spending the time and effort to make them into a team are where we fall down on new faces - not on the quality we have available.

The damning indictment to me is that Sermanni is still playing the same fresh faces he brought in last time he was head coach (or am I remembering that wrong?).

The players zimbo05 mentions are just some of the many with potential that we have available who could produce a better team effort and better overall team performance than the experienced old stagers who are not up to it anymore. 'We' just don't spend the time choosing replacements and developing them into the team - hoping for a miracle performance from an unending carousel of individuals on any day in an environment where cohesive team play is the name of the game.

To me depth is not an issue - we just haven't refilled the pool when water gets splashed out and to make it worse I think we have been squeezing the water back in from the togs/swimmers and towels we have used for some time now.

Que?

 

[libelous]

Yeah, I mean working with International players at Manchester United. Coaching international players at NPL clubs. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.

Who am I to dispute your ‘credentials’ but I don’t think you’re right in your assessment of the ability of the ‘fringe’ players to replace the current first team players.

 

[zimbos05]

Who am I to dispute your ‘credentials’ but I don’t think you’re right in your assessment of the ability of the ‘fringe’ players to replace the current first team players.

You don't have to think I'm right, but you asked the question, I provided the evidence.

I've followed the Matildas for a very long time. Even got to watch them up front and see how they operated just before the World Cup. They played against our U16s in a warm up match.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot by insisting on playing the same old players. We are not learning anything about them that we don't already know. Players get better by playing and playing at high levels. We have players in depth, but we are not allowing them to improve by constantly sitting on the sidelines

 

[libelous]

You don't have to think I'm right, but you asked the question, I provided the evidence.

I've followed the Matildas for a very long time. Even got to watch them up front and see how they operated just before the World Cup. They played against our U16s in a warm up match.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot by insisting on playing the same old players. We are not learning anything about them that we don't already know. Players get better by playing and playing at high levels. We have players in depth, but we are not allowing them to improve by constantly sitting on the sidelines

So we expose these players in ‘high level’ tournaments at the expense of experienced players and just cop any fallout when things don’t work out.

 

[zimbos05]

So we expose these players in ‘high level’ tournaments at the expense of experienced players and just cop any fallout when things don’t work out.

No. You blend them in with the right experienced players. What you are suggesting is that you never allow non experienced players to play in these tournaments because they just won't be up to it. How do you think we got Sharn Freieir as a now considered starter?

You are always going to have fall out when things don't work, but you rather that happen when you have a probably plan and system in place and developing things, as opposed to losing with your most experienced and having no possible other options.

 

[libelous]

You don't have to think I'm right, but you asked the question, I provided the evidence.

I've followed the Matildas for a very long time. Even got to watch them up front and see how they operated just before the World Cup. They played against our U16s in a warm up match.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot by insisting on playing the same old players. We are not learning anything about them that we don't already know. Players get better by playing and playing at high levels. We have players in depth, but we are not allowing them to improve by constantly sitting on the sidelines

I did ask the question but your ‘evidence’ is purely opinion.