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Should the a league continue with the salary cap?

Should the a league continue with the salary cap?

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I wrote this a few months ago:

I used to agree with this. But then I found that the richest club in the league doesn't have a marquee player, whose salary in completely outside the salary cap. In fact, City have only had one marquee since 2019, Maclaren. Each club is allowed two marquees.

If we were a moneybags league, sure, wipe the cap. But today, our richest club isn't maxing out anyway. The cap rising might lead to average players being paid more, might also be able to keep some quality for longer. But we're so poor right now that clubs are selling any player that is bid for.
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I haven't changed that opinion. Plus our squads are getting younger, they don't get paid as much. Ditching the cap probably won't have any effect right now.

The cap floor is worth looking at. I'm not a fan of forcing clubs to spend when in could send them broke. Like Mariners shouldn't need to spend that much, especially with stuff all broadcast distributions coming their way.

Then, if we're ditching the floor, it also needs relegation. And that needs professional clubs in a proper national second division (not a "tier" of Champions League).

The football system is like a cake. All these areas come together for the finished product. At the moment, we're just one ingredient, and I think we're done pigging out on the sugar.

Back to the cap. We could ditch it when we start taking ACLE seriously. We'll know when that happens when we don't start those campaigns during our offseason! When A-League kicks off in August-September then it's "go time". Or maybe we could make cap exemptions or concessions for the club going to ACLE, but that might be unfair on the rest of the A-League clubs.
 
Salary cap (in it's current format) is dumb.
Salary floor is even dumber, especially now that the grant money was reduced to $530k.
 
Ideally, no. That said, even if it were dispensed with, it couldn’t be done from a single season to the next - it’d have to be a gradual process over a minimum of 2(maybe 3) seasons
 
HappyGuus said:
I wrote this a few months ago:



I haven't changed that opinion. Plus our squads are getting younger, they don't get paid as much. Ditching the cap probably won't have any effect right now.

The cap floor is worth looking at. I'm not a fan of forcing clubs to spend when in could send them broke. Like Mariners shouldn't need to spend that much, especially with stuff all broadcast distributions coming their way.

Then, if we're ditching the floor, it also needs relegation. And that needs professional clubs in a proper national second division (not a "tier" of Champions League).

The football system is like a cake. All these areas come together for the finished product. At the moment, we're just one ingredient, and I think we're done pigging out on the sugar.

Back to the cap. We could ditch it when we start taking ACLE seriously. We'll know when that happens when we don't start those campaigns during our offseason! When A-League kicks off in August-September then it's "go time". Or maybe we could make cap exemptions or concessions for the club going to ACLE, but that might be unfair on the rest of the A-League clubs.
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mate this is where its at full stop in bold from your good post.

The amount of political wasted time that keeps going on is getting us/the game NO where to this day.
The FA APL need to WTFU and their supporters accept an alliance needs to occur so as the game can set the path working on 2 Pro divisions, P/R - no cap lets get the F going and see where its lands 5yrs on instead of this disjointed struggling and choking situations we currently have.
 
I am increasingly and reluctantly of the view that the A League is a broken and unsustainable model. Please, just bring pro/rel in the equation and let's have some drama in the comp. Its stale as month old potato chip right now.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
I am increasingly and reluctantly of the view that the A League is a broken and unsustainable model. Please, just bring pro/rel in the equation and let's have some drama in the comp. Its stale as month old potato chip right now.
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oh others keep saying that won't work FS.
Their wonderful Pro model Clubs will recover and crowds will comeback, please wait it will happen if only the suits would do a better job, the NPL clubs are the ol days not capable to stand up, they couldn't/didn't feel welcome and they are joke in any case.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
I am increasingly and reluctantly of the view that the A League is a broken and unsustainable model. Please, just bring pro/rel in the equation and let's have some drama in the comp. Its stale as month old potato chip right now.
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I think the A-League model proved a great success until the management screwed it badly over the last decade. But also a second division with pro/rel is well overdue, although we're probably lucky we didn't launch that before COVID.

Unfortunately for us, I think the expansion delays with Canberra have also pushed back any two-division connection, as well as any other expansions the APL wants before connecting below. The silence is deafening from APL, I'd love to know what they do all day. One thing's for sure, they aren't in a hurry. We should've been at 16 clubs next season, but they've stalled at 13, piss poor. With broadcast talks on the horizon, I'm surprised they aren't aggressively expanding and increasing the number of matches.
 
Remove it but maybe introduce a luxury tax or some sort of financial fair play, apparently the reason why the DTS haven’t been brought in is because of the PFA’s reluctance of a salary cap.

So I would do it just so the domestic transfer system can come in, but maybe it might come at a the price when clubs won’t be encouraged to play youth in favor of experienced players?
 
Yes, keep the player salary caps. Even the European leagues are now reviewing whether to introduce them in order to keep costs under control.

The problem with removing the floor is that some franchisees will spend way below that making the teams perennial losers and non-competitive - the AFL found this out in practice. I remain unconvinced the P/R will work due to the size of the population and the size of the country. Perhaps an alternative model for P/R will need to be devised that could make it work. I note that no professional sport in Australia has made P/R work.
 
WhatAmIWatching said:
Yes, keep the player salary caps. Even the European leagues are now reviewing whether to introduce them in order to keep costs under control.

The problem with removing the floor is that some franchisees will spend way below that making the teams perennial losers and non-competitive - the AFL found this out in practice. I remain unconvinced the P/R will work due to the size of the population and the size of the country. Perhaps an alternative model for P/R will need to be devised that could make it work. I note that no professional sport in Australia has made P/R work.
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Can you tell me more about the AFL's experience with the cap floor? I'd like to read about that.
 
WhatAmIWatching said:
Yes, keep the player salary caps. Even the European leagues are now reviewing whether to introduce them in order to keep costs under control.

The problem with removing the floor is that some franchisees will spend way below that making the teams perennial losers and non-competitive - the AFL found this out in practice. I remain unconvinced the P/R will work due to the size of the population and the size of the country. Perhaps an alternative model for P/R will need to be devised that could make it work. I note that no professional sport in Australia has made P/R work.
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well tbh I don't know any pro has ever tried P/R in the first place hence never made to work..
Certainly don't expect the eggball codes ever to bother with this system like football does world over.

A east coast based P/R would be viable as long as there's the naming rights sponser/s/broadcast deal and the FA kicking in plus the Clubs chasing their sponsers and fund raising.
With all that money paying for those over sized stads the current Pro game forks out that saving alone would cover alot of air travels.
 
HappyGuus said:
I think the A-League model proved a great success until the management screwed it badly over the last decade. But also a second division with pro/rel is well overdue, although we're probably lucky we didn't launch that before COVID.

Unfortunately for us, I think the expansion delays with Canberra have also pushed back any two-division connection, as well as any other expansions the APL wants before connecting below. The silence is deafening from APL, I'd love to know what they do all day. One thing's for sure, they aren't in a hurry. We should've been at 16 clubs next season, but they've stalled at 13, piss poor. With broadcast talks on the horizon, I'm surprised they aren't aggressively expanding and increasing the number of matches.
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They can't expand unless investors front up with the cash. That clearly wasn't and now even more so won't be the case.
 
Replace with a luxury tax. You then need only one billionaire with an ego to spend big on their squad and the rest of the league gets budget relief.
 
The other thing about a salary cap is it hurts incentives to improve the quality. Ideally you start climbing the ladder by getting better transfer fees and reinvesting that money into better squads

A league deficits are so big mind you that there might be enough incentive to try and max out transfer revenue even if tv revenue improves
 
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