Vaccine Megathread

[vo2Max]

"Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID vaccine induces cell spikes similar to SARS-CoV-2's"

Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID vaccine induces cell spikes similar to SARS-CoV-2's

Scientists from the University of Oxford and the University of Southampton report in the journal ACS Central Science that cells infected with the ChAdOx1 vaccine produce spike proteins on the cells similar to those produced by natural SARS-CoV-2 infection.

www.news-medical.net

I have over 60 articles about the dangers of the AZ. Indications are that AZ was slightly less severe than Pfizer, but still not good. I can affirm that firstly by referring to news articles and journal reports, as well as testimonies of friends who took AZ.

All good.

Merely clearing up the fact that 95% did not take an mRna vaccine.

Thanks for confirming.

As for anecdotal stuff re these vaccines, I don't know a single person who was "vaccine injured". Lucky, I guess.

 

[johnsmith]

As for anecdotal stuff re these vaccines, I don't know a single person who was "vaccine injured". Lucky, I guess.

My guess is you're not "lucky".

First, most people I talk to know a few.

Second, most people who were injured by the MRNA vaxes often share that information only with a select few. It's not something that most people want their entire circle to know. For example, some friends I only found out when a friend-of-a-friend shared the information.

Third, vax-injured don't tend to tell people who are Un-Sympathetic to vax injuries. So, give the statistics of how many people have been injured --- and no one has told you -- either (1) there are few vax injured out there, or (2) you're the type of person that vax-injured tend not to tell.

If you're the type who has not done any searching for vax-injuries, and you mock people who suggest that -- then the vax-injured will identify you as a person not to tell.

 

[zimbos05]

I didn't want to upset people and deliberated before making that post.

Most likely this will be a percentage outcome where there are significant higher incidences of certain conditions but doesn't necessarily mean everyone is going to succumb. There are a lot of variables involved.

The best thing people can do is cease taking any more shots of that particular technology if that was their intention.

Going forward be very skeptical of hyped pandemics (aka lead marketing campaigns).

You seem to be suggesting that the pandemic was a planned overhyped event?

We can't even get Labor and Liberals to agree on shit, how are more than 200 govt's going to agree to something on that scale.

You are also diminishing the deaths that occured across the globe.

 

[johnsmith]

You seem to be suggesting that the pandemic was a planned overhyped event?

We can't even get Labor and Liberals to agree on shit, how are more than 200 govt's going to agree to something on that scale.

You are also diminishing the deaths that occured across the globe.

Think, think of all the scenarios.

You, thinking one-dimensionally, dismiss it all by ONLY assuming it could have happened by massive groups of politicians scheming together.

No, if you read the independent media, most of the covert operations are done by non-politician bureaucrats (do some research on the term "Deep State").

FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

After Action Review of the COVID-19 Pandemic: The Lessons Learned and a Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

Quoted from the above:

"A summary of the information can be found below:​

​

The Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including but Not Limited to the Federal Government’s Funding of Gain-of-Function Research​

​

COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:​

​

1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
   
2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
   
3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
   
4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
   
5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.

​

PROXIMAL ORIGIN PUBLICATION: “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak theory — was prompted by Dr. Fauci to push the preferred narrative that COVID-19 originated in nature.​

​

GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH: A lab-related incident involving gain-of-function research is most likely the origin of COVID-19. Current government mechanisms for overseeing this dangerous gain-of-function research are incomplete, severely convoluted, and lack global applicability."​

 

[Muz]

Hence, the above video by Professor Dr Ian Brighthope makes the point.

Even if I could logically-batter people like @Muz, @tsf and @Keeper66 by sheer logic and facts -- and show them up for their refusal to see (them being specimens of the "people gonna believe what they wanna believe") .... I cannot do a victory dance. That can be no triumph at winning an argument with them - when virtually all my close and extended family have taken these MRNA vaxes, and all my close friends, and acquaintances have taken these vaxes.

What is the point of me pressing them with data/evidence/facts on the MRNA vaxes? It's too late to convince them on the vaxes, because after the MRNA lipoproteins are injected in the body, the growing scientific data shows that the generating of spike-protein by the MRNA keeps going in their bodies long beyond what the Pharma people had assumed (without evidence).

The last hope is to demonstrate to them ... by clear reasoning ... that the (lack of) thinking, and refusal to see data/evidence ... which got them into the MRNA mess in the first place ... is the same hard-hearted stubbornness that they bring to ALL areas of their life, particularly the most important issue, which is their eternal salvation.

No matter whether people misunderstand my motives for what I write, I state for the record, in writing, that my main motive for continuing dialogue with the rank and file folk who exhibit this group-think, is a hope that they'll turn and see the light. And if they can look past their irritation of disgust with me (which is caused by me butting up against their fixed assumptions) -- and for them to just focus on facts/evidence - there'll be some hope.

I gain nothing in winning arguments of logic with them. It's like a caring parent who is misunderstood by wayward children. Often, when they grow up in future decades, they come to realise that dad was right. By then, it's too late to correct decades of them going down the wrong path - and then they join the ranks of the elders trying to pass on wisdom to the young folk who refuse to listen.

Stop tagging me you fucking retard.

 

[vo2Max]

My guess is you're not "lucky".

First, most people I talk to know a few.

Second, most people who were injured by the MRNA vaxes often share that information only with a select few. It's not something that most people want their entire circle to know. For example, some friends I only found out when a friend-of-a-friend shared the information.

Third, vax-injured don't tend to tell people who are Un-Sympathetic to vax injuries. So, give the statistics of how many people have been injured --- and no one has told you -- either (1) there are few vax injured out there, or (2) you're the type of person that vax-injured tend not to tell.

If you're the type who has not done any searching for vax-injuries, and you mock people who suggest that -- then the vax-injured will identify you as a person not to tell.

One of your best yet.

I'm here for the entertainment and you delivered.

Keep on truckin' smiffy.

 

[zimbos05]

Think, think of all the scenarios.

You, thinking one-dimensionally, dismiss it all by ONLY assuming it could have happened by massive groups of politicians scheming together.

No, if you read the independent media, most of the covert operations are done by non-politician bureaucrats (do some research on the term "Deep State").

FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

After Action Review of the COVID-19 Pandemic: The Lessons Learned and a Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

Quoted from the above:

"A summary of the information can be found below:​

​

The Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including but Not Limited to the Federal Government’s Funding of Gain-of-Function Research​

​

COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:​

​

1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.

​

PROXIMAL ORIGIN PUBLICATION: “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak theory — was prompted by Dr. Fauci to push the preferred narrative that COVID-19 originated in nature.​

​

GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH: A lab-related incident involving gain-of-function research is most likely the origin of COVID-19. Current government mechanisms for overseeing this dangerous gain-of-function research are incomplete, severely convoluted, and lack global applicability."​

I wasn't talking to you. You don't have to stick your nose into everything.

 

[johnsmith]

TL;DR - if you see someone getting any one of these diseases, the science (from France) tells you that you cannot say, "it's a coincidence".

The problem is that, because the MRNA code goes all over the body, it literally affects so many different parts of the body. So it's easy for doctors to just waive it away as "not the vax".

(Quoted from article)

France Identifies 53 Unique COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signals

New study reports 190,000 adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination in France, with 25% classified as serious.

petermcculloughmd.substack.com

Title of research paper: "The enhanced national pharmacovigilance system implemented for COVID-19 vaccines in France: A 2-year experience report"

The enhanced national pharmacovigilance system implemented for COVID-19 vaccines in France: A 2-year experience report

In March 2020, World Health Organization recognized severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) emergence as a public health emergenc…

www.sciencedirect.com

Complete List of 53 COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signals in France

Confirmed by EMA (13 Signals) [For those of you who don't know, the EMA is the EU's equivalent to the FDA or Australia's TGA).

1. Myocarditis/pericarditis (mRNA vaccines, Nuvaxovid®)
2. Heavy menstrual bleeding (mRNA vaccines)
3. Delayed reactogenicity (mRNA vaccines)
4. Erythema multiforme (mRNA vaccines)
5. Guillain-Barré syndrome (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
6. Facial paralysis (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
7. Influenza-like illness (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
8. Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
9. Hypersensitivity (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
10. Capillary leak syndrome (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
11. Venous thromboembolism (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
12. Menstrual disorders (non-specific, including heavy menstrual bleeding across vaccine types)
13. Myocarditis/pericarditis (Recombinant protein-based vaccines)

Under Investigation (24 Signals)

1. Parsonage-Turner syndrome
2. Acquired hemophilia
3. Autoimmune hepatitis
4. Hearing loss
5. Vasculitis
6. Autoimmune hemolytic anemia
7. Menstrual disorders (excluding heavy menstrual bleeding)
8. Systemic necrotizing vasculitis
9. Viral reactivation
10. Thromboembolic events
11. Polymyalgia rheumatica
12. Sarcoidosis
13. Rheumatoid arthritis
14. Herpes Zoster
15. Delayed neurological activation
16. Cardiovascular secondary adjusters
17. Myocarditis/pericarditis in special populations
18. Progressive neuromuscular disease
19. Vasculitis (general and advanced cases)
20. Viral reactivation (in autoimmune subgroups)
21. Autoimmune syndromes with delayed onset
22. Delayed thrombocytopenia
23. Post-vaccine fatigue syndrome
24. Hormonal disruptions (general, excluding heavy menstrual bleeding)

Not Confirmed but Under Surveillance (16 Signals - Inferred based on article, not explicitly mentioned)

1. Systemic autoimmune responses (general)
2. Hearing impacts with delayed onset
3. Cardiovascular irregularities
4. Hypersensitivity responses with mild symptoms
5. Neurological subclinical responses
6. Autoimmune hyperinflammatory conditions
7. Cyclic immune sensitivity patterns
8. Long-term joint pain and stiffness
9. Visual disturbances (mild to moderate)
10. Delayed rash or cutaneous reactions
11. Gastrointestinal irregularities
12. Sleep disturbances linked to vaccine response
13. Non-specific inflammatory reactions
14. Menstrual irregularities (non-heavy bleeding)
15. Musculoskeletal pain syndromes
16. Dermatological conditions

 

[vo2Max]

TL;DR - if you see someone getting any one of these diseases, the science (from France) tells you that you cannot say, "it's a coincidence".

The problem is that, because the MRNA code goes all over the body, it literally affects so many different parts of the body. So it's easy for doctors to just waive it away as "not the vax".

(Quoted from article)

France Identifies 53 Unique COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signals

New study reports 190,000 adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination in France, with 25% classified as serious.

petermcculloughmd.substack.com

Title of research paper: "The enhanced national pharmacovigilance system implemented for COVID-19 vaccines in France: A 2-year experience report"

The enhanced national pharmacovigilance system implemented for COVID-19 vaccines in France: A 2-year experience report

In March 2020, World Health Organization recognized severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) emergence as a public health emergenc…

www.sciencedirect.com

Complete List of 53 COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signals in France

Confirmed by EMA (13 Signals) [For those of you who don't know, the EMA is the EU's equivalent to the FDA or Australia's TGA).

1. Myocarditis/pericarditis (mRNA vaccines, Nuvaxovid®)
2. Heavy menstrual bleeding (mRNA vaccines)
3. Delayed reactogenicity (mRNA vaccines)
4. Erythema multiforme (mRNA vaccines)
5. Guillain-Barré syndrome (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
6. Facial paralysis (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
7. Influenza-like illness (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
8. Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
9. Hypersensitivity (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
10. Capillary leak syndrome (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
11. Venous thromboembolism (Adenovirus-based vaccines)
12. Menstrual disorders (non-specific, including heavy menstrual bleeding across vaccine types)
13. Myocarditis/pericarditis (Recombinant protein-based vaccines)

Under Investigation (24 Signals)

1. Parsonage-Turner syndrome
2. Acquired hemophilia
3. Autoimmune hepatitis
4. Hearing loss
5. Vasculitis
6. Autoimmune hemolytic anemia
7. Menstrual disorders (excluding heavy menstrual bleeding)
8. Systemic necrotizing vasculitis
9. Viral reactivation
10. Thromboembolic events
11. Polymyalgia rheumatica
12. Sarcoidosis
13. Rheumatoid arthritis
14. Herpes Zoster
15. Delayed neurological activation
16. Cardiovascular secondary adjusters
17. Myocarditis/pericarditis in special populations
18. Progressive neuromuscular disease
19. Vasculitis (general and advanced cases)
20. Viral reactivation (in autoimmune subgroups)
21. Autoimmune syndromes with delayed onset
22. Delayed thrombocytopenia
23. Post-vaccine fatigue syndrome
24. Hormonal disruptions (general, excluding heavy menstrual bleeding)

Not Confirmed but Under Surveillance (16 Signals - Inferred based on article, not explicitly mentioned)

1. Systemic autoimmune responses (general)
2. Hearing impacts with delayed onset
3. Cardiovascular irregularities
4. Hypersensitivity responses with mild symptoms
5. Neurological subclinical responses
6. Autoimmune hyperinflammatory conditions
7. Cyclic immune sensitivity patterns
8. Long-term joint pain and stiffness
9. Visual disturbances (mild to moderate)
10. Delayed rash or cutaneous reactions
11. Gastrointestinal irregularities
12. Sleep disturbances linked to vaccine response
13. Non-specific inflammatory reactions
14. Menstrual irregularities (non-heavy bleeding)
15. Musculoskeletal pain syndromes
16. Dermatological conditions

Do you have any other hobbies or just this one?

 

[johnsmith]

Do you have any other hobbies or just this one?

futeball

 

[johnsmith]

"New study finds Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 'vaccinated' children are 159% more likely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2 and 257% more likely to develop symptomatic COVID-19 than unvaccinated peers."

1. "Increased Risk with Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccination"
   
   
2. "Prior Infection Offers Robust Protection"
   
   
3. "No Protective Effect from Vaccination Alone"
   
   
4. "Boosters Show No Significant Protection"

Pfizer mRNA 'Vaccinated' Children Significantly More Likely to Get COVID-19 Than Unvaccinated Peers

New study finds Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 'vaccinated' children are 159% more likely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2 and 257% more likely to develop symptomatic COVID-19 than unvaccinated peers.

petermcculloughmd.substack.com

In the light of growing scientific data, the average person still operates on the basis of "I just trust my GP" - and the GPs just follow the health authorities, on penalty of the GPs losing their jobs if they step out of line.





It is not my main aim to shift your stance on Covid vaccines. It is too late for that, since 95% of people have taken it. My motive is to show that the manner of thinking you used on Covid vaccines, is the same way you think about everything else in life, particularly the biggest decision on your eternal destiny. Most people reject facts and evidence, and just mindlessly follow the people/culture they trust. And they will use force (mocking, cancel-culture, banning etc) against those who bring evidence for the opposite stance.

 

[vo2Max]

the average person still operates on the basis of "I just trust my GP"

Very true and very unwise.

Why would anyone take general health advice from, say, an obese GP.

 

[Muz]

Very true and very unwise.

Why would anyone take general health advice from, say, an obese GP.

Because 'eat lots of fresh fruit and veg and go easy on sugar and alcohol ' is good advice whether it's coming from a fat cunt or not.

Just like a smoker telling you not to smoke would also be good advice.

 

[vo2Max]

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Because 'eat lots of fresh fruit and veg and go easy on sugar and alcohol ' is good advice whether it's coming from a fat cunt or not.

Just like a smoker telling you not to smoke would also be good advice.

So taking advice from someone who doesn't believe in their own advice?

Interesting.

 

[Muz]

So taking advice from someone who doesn't believe in their own advice?

Interesting.

Given up on raging about the 1 in million chance of a transgender person molesting a child have we?



You're either thick or being deliberately obstreperous.

You blokes love this shit don't you? The parsing of words and phrases to try and 'catch someone out'. You might think you're clever but everyone else sees you as a moron with the brain of a 14 year old.

 

[johnsmith]

Because 'eat lots of fresh fruit and veg and go easy on sugar and alcohol ' is good advice whether it's coming from a fat cunt or not.

Just like a smoker telling you not to smoke would also be good advice.

This is how I thought through it .... if a G.P. knows the MRNA vaccines are potentially far more dangerous than past, conventional vaccines -- but keeps his/her mouth shut about those dangers, because if he/she said anything negative about the government-mandated vaccines, the said doctor could lose their medical practice licence .... that sort of G.P. I would not trust. They're covering their own financial @$$ rather than caring a stuff about your health.

YOU ASK THIS QUESTION TO YOUR G.P. - hey doctor, hypothetically, if you changed your opinion towards believing that the MRNA vaccines are dangerous, would you be prepared to lose your job over that?

I regularly hear anecdotes about doctors admitting the consequences of the MRNA vaccines, but they say it quietly behind closed doors - 'cos they don't want to lose their jobs, like these brave doctors who lost their jobs in Australia:





The above doctors that DID care, and took a stand - those doctors lost their jobs, or were threatened with loss of licence.

And the sad things is, the general population take evil delight in insulting those doctors who took a stand.

Science involves questioning information by testing it to obtain facts and data. Everything has to be checked and tested by facts and data.

Instead, we are now into an era where doctors and scientists are being shut down for questioning anything. See the following video:

 

[Lupi]

media and management couldn't cancel this girl quick enough....

 

[vo2Max]

media and management couldn't cancel this girl quick enough....

She's still taking appointments on hotdoc.

Find a Doctor, GP, Dentist or Healthcare Specialist near you - HotDoc

Book an online appointment with your preferred healthcare provider all over Australia. See up to date availability and book instantly.

www.hotdoc.com.au

 

[Lupi]

nothing to see here

 

[vo2Max]

nothing to see here

TGA's Cost Recovery Model explained.

https://www.tga.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-12/cost-recovery-implementation-statement-2023-2024.pdf

You're welcome.