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The Australian Championship Thread

Monoethnic Social Club said:
LFC Preston were in dissaray for the best part of a decade and absolute credit and respect that they have turned this around, gone through the promotions to reach the big league and are in a decent financial position to be in the NST and compete very well next year in the NPL ... no argument they are a great club but you also have to understand their demise was through their own issues... the "usual suspects" you dismiss have all greatly reduced from what they where 20 years ago, AND have had the odd poor season but are still running solidly, Preston has just played a mighty game of "catch up"

As for Bentleigh, Paco, Bulleen, Northcote etc... these clubs will be given "air to breath" once the NST starts in earnest and will find their way back to the top of the NPL tables once again...
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MSC all I said is credit where credit is due.
Every Club is its own worst enemy we all know that - highs and lows.
It’s always gets back to the fish’s head.
 
God I can't wait for the NPL season to start.... I know many who will be keeping one eye on ALL the NPLS around the country with anticipation of who the Premiers will be for the NST tournament. As crappy as the format is, the one good things is that comps like WA, TAS, SA etc will have a lot more eyes on them Australia wide as the season goes on....
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
God I can't wait for the NPL season to start.... I know many who will be keeping one eye on ALL the NPLS around the country with anticipation of who the Premiers will be for the NST tournament. As crappy as the format is, the one good things is that comps like WA, TAS, SA etc will have a lot more eyes on them Australia wide as the season goes on....
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it will still come down to the club if they want to enter.

I.e - If Melbourne Knights are Premiers, it will be up to them if they wish to enter the tournament, even if the FA is covering 90% of the costs.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
God I can't wait for the NPL season to start.... I know many who will be keeping one eye on ALL the NPLS around the country with anticipation of who the Premiers will be for the NST tournament. As crappy as the format is, the one good things is that comps like WA, TAS, SA etc will have a lot more eyes on them Australia wide as the season goes on....
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Yeah that's quite a big positive, more involvement and interaction with all NPLs. For a few years I've tried to stream matches from different NPLs each week. I kinda choose my own match of the week from each NPL, usually can't watch all 90 minutes, and skipping through time wasting and substitutions etc. speed things up haha.
 
Beretta said:
it will still come down to the club if they want to enter.

I.e - If Melbourne Knights are Premiers, it will be up to them if they wish to enter the tournament, even if the FA is covering 90% of the costs.
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Firstly Knights being Premiers? HAhahaahahahahahah

But I would be surprised if they, or any other club passed on the opportunity just out of spite...
 
Beretta said:
Nope. We are the only club to meet some criteria to receive our money back from the FA. It was confirmed at our AGM. How true that is, i dont know.

The club will still part take in the NST at the end of the season.
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Nice, I hope thats true... maybe we can get ours back too someday ....

Maybe, just maybe, its the FA realizing that unless they scrap the "bond" then the NST wont actually get off the ground as a full H/A comp in 2026?

We wait and see I suppose.
 
rebelliousfeminist974 said:
They're going to eventually implement promotion and relegation between NST and ALM but that won't happen for some time.
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What makes you believe this? The current investors in Aleague licenses have been, either outright hostile at the FA "wasting resources" on anything outside their bubble or have expressed the opinion that they would not survive a drop into a competition outside the Aleague because of commercial concerns on revenue?

Any chance of a potential drop in financial return would devalue their licenses even further than they are being devalued now ... your expecting chickens to vote for Colonel Sanders? (pun definately intended)
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
What makes you believe this? The current investors in Aleague licenses have been, either outright hostile at the FA "wasting resources" on anything outside their bubble or have expressed the opinion that they would not survive a drop into a competition outside the Aleague because of commercial concerns on revenue?

Any chance of a potential drop in financial return would devalue their licenses even further than they are being devalued now ... your expecting chickens to vote for Colonel Sanders? (pun definately intended)
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Football Australia's long-term goal is to eventually implement promotion and relegation but the A-League clubs are right to resist a push towards this new system, bearing in mind that APL wasn't part of the formal consultation process for NST and also in terms of the impact it would have on commercial interests.
 
rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Football Australia's long-term goal is to eventually implement promotion and relegation but the A-League clubs are right to resist a push towards this new system, bearing in mind that APL wasn't part of the formal consultation process for NST and also in terms of the impact it would have on commercial interests.
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I agree, they have absolutely every right to keep themselves outside of the Football Australia pyramid. I actually hope they do as the two worlds (at least in my view) won't combine well together due to differing aims. Australia will achieve some form of a full pyramid with pro/rel, sooner rather than latter I agree, but it won't include the APL or their franchises.....
 
Does anyone know the actual proposal for who pays for the travel and accommodation for the NST?

AAFC wanted FA to pay for it, which I think is the right way, the league's admin should foot that bill. But I thought I've seen suggestions that clubs might be paying for it?

I think it would be anbit rich for clubs to stump up for guarantee AND travel costs.
 
HappyGuus said:
Does anyone know the actual proposal for who pays for the travel and accommodation for the NST?

AAFC wanted FA to pay for it, which I think is the right way, the league's admin should foot that bill. But I thought I've seen suggestions that clubs might be paying for it?

I think it would be anbit rich for clubs to stump up for guarantee AND travel costs.
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For next year, I believe FA are paying for travel... beyond that ..... ?
 
The current A-League licence includes the potential introduction of pro\rel. Problem is, things could get messy if they aren't guaranteed an A-League spot through to 2034. So I think the best we can realistically hope for is promotion to A-League in the lead up to 2034, but no relegation until then. That's how I've designed my Aus football structure anyway haha.

I think APL will milk sugardaddy's for more expansions and NST will get to 16 clubs before any of that.

For mine, I think we'd have more success with true pro\rel between A-League and NST rather than NST and NPL. If NST is fully professional, then I don't think there would be enough clubs below the 16 to step up to professional status. They would be better off applying each season for NST when they are ready, instead of purely merit based winning. But maybe in 10 years time it will change and there could be a lot more clubs ready to be professional.
 
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HappyGuus said:
The current A-League licence includes the introduction of pro\rel. Problem is, things could get messy if they aren't guaranteed an A-League spot through to 2034. So I think the best we can realistically hope for is promotion to A-League in the lead up to 2034, but no relegation until then. That's how I've designed my Aus football structure anyway haha.

I think APL will milk sugardaddy's for more expansions and NST will get to 16 clubs before any of that.

For mine, I think we'd have more success with true pro\rel between A-League and NST rather than NST and NPL. If NST is fully professional, then I don't think there would be enough clubs below the 16 to step up to professional status. They would be better off applying each season for NST when they are ready, instead of purely merit based winning. But maybe in 10 years time it will change and there could be a lot more clubs ready to be professional.
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I guess it all hinges on the first 2-3 seasons of NST .. eiother it succeed or fails, but either way don't hold your breath for APL inclusion .... Maybe 1-2 franchises may wish to join in the distant future but for now... APLs focus is artificial expansion with new shopfronts in geographic sales areas NOT real football. "Fish where they HOPE the fish are"
 
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