I don't understand the AFL / NRL (to a lesser extent) argument of "well they don't have pro rel ..." AND? Is there a culture of pro rel in Rugby or AFL such a non argument.
Indeed, promotion and relegation might get canned in the english super league (rugby league) despite being in the uk. So its not the travel distances that matter but the differences between the sports. Its a pretty complicated reason why and probably worth an article of its own
We need to stop comparing ourselves with the US market, we have a similar ish soccer system currently and historically but they have greater opportunities to invest in the game then we do.
Canada is probably our most similar country. So if they don't have p&r that is the strongest point against p&r. Having said that I've convinced myself that the reasons both don't are wrong. TLDR summary is that p&r's benefits are like compound interest, they accumlate and grow over time, whereas the cost is constant. So p&r for Australia is like a super annuation fund with a large minimum payment. Takes longer in Australia for the cost to be worth it and would require vision , but still worth it given enough time
Financial and geographical worries I understand they could be fixed (80-90%) but the infrastructure and mechanism of the league is completely fucked, and nothing is being done to build upon and change system put into place 20 years ago.
the heavy dose of hopium I take is the fact that the league looks sustainable enough to clunk along but is struggling could make p&r attractive if a h&a nst gets up. Probably wildly optimistic, but compare to the usa where their 2nd tier is miles behind the first so p&r is unattractive
Of course South is mentioned, A-League fans HATE us (can't think why ... mike lol). I think a split conferences league is a good idea, makes the final series and FFA cup more 'credible', but ... but ... VIC and NSW team dominance because every other league's winners aren't from the biggest couple of cities?
Here is one a league fan that doesn't hate souths haha
Crowed violence is such a mute point now, yes it happened in the NSL but it happens in the A-League. Classic Sydney United fans thing gets brought up, yes Nazi's are bad but why isn't there the same energy for the Western United fans displaying a flag of an apartheid state? Do they get the clear to be racist because the victims of that were Black Africans and not White Europeans???
Weird this gets brought up post bucket man haha.
Why didn't the NSL have relegation (WHO GIVES A SHIT!), its a now defunct semi-pro league again this was some how South's fault (in some peoples eyes).
I wonder if this gets lost in the vague recollection of history. But the league became unsustainable 12 years after relegation got scrapped but was evidently sustainable for the first 16 years with an ad hoc p&r system
If a A-League franchise is not able to survive after getting relegated it is not fit for business and thus unsustainable, ffs NQ Fury was able to operate many seasons after dropping out of the A-League and they were complete shite!
If p&r is ever implemented here, I imagine, despite fan protests, some sort of strange hybrid system for a period of time. Like a league clubs not being relegated below the nst for the first 10 years or something.
Once again u/Meapa (a moderator) of the sub ADDS NOTHING TO THE CONVOCATION OF ANY SUBSTANCE WHAT SO EVER, WHY ARE PPL LIKE THIS
RUNNING THE DISCUSSION SPACES ABOUT AUSTRALIAN SOCCER IF THEY CANT STRING 2 FUCKING STANCES TOGETHER.
It does become an echo chamber there
