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With the high standard of play in the A-League, why are the crowds so low?

Sharkman84 said:
That's the worry.

Our population is too small and the football community is too for it to work.
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yeah understandable worry. I tend to think that supporters of traditional clubs are often a different supporter base though. The now defunct "bring back the nsl" facebook page has over 6k followers. Would like to see a poll

Having said that, if a queensland club came into the nst and started playing a lot more qld players than the roar and they started making the roos my head could turn, even if the club was called "you can't support this club unless you belong to this ethnicity fc". So perhaps they should be worried (I could also be tempted by oakleigh cannons since I lived there, and that is definitely a migrant dominated club). But in the end, competition is a chance to get stronger and in an internationally competitive sport we definitely need to get stronger
 
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grazorblade said:
yeah understandable worry. I tend to think that supporters of traditional clubs are often a different supporter base though. The now defunct "bring back the nsl" facebook page has over 6k followers. Would like to see a poll

Having said that, if a queensland club came into the nst and started playing a lot more qld players than the roar and they started making the roos my head could turn, even if the club was called "you can't support this club unless you belong to this ethnicity fc". So perhaps they should be worried (I could also be tempted by oakleigh cannons since I lived there, and that is definitely a migrant dominated club). But in the end, competition is a chance to get stronger and in an internationally competitive sport we definitely need to get stronger
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Oakleigh Cannons is a pimps dominated club mate.... not many migrants left... :P
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Im not, I hope ALL the old NSL fans come back to their roots and Aleague crowds grow ever smaller :P
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I doubt we have a pyramid unless we have 2 national leagues

if it just collapses into one league we probably end up with a closed shop again.

Gotta find a way to land this frankenplane with bits and pieces flying off in the meantime
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Ide be happy with "NPL on planes" but many wouldn't.
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definitely somewhere on the pyramid you need to transition from npl on busses to npl on planes. I just hope the top is fully pro

if nothing else it'd be nice to have professional options for players who can't move for whatever reason (e.g. family reasons. I kinda have that right now)
 
grazorblade said:
yeah understandable worry. I tend to think that supporters of traditional clubs are often a different supporter base though. The now defunct "bring back the nsl" facebook page has over 6k followers. Would like to see a poll

Having said that, if a queensland club came into the nst and started playing a lot more qld players than the roar and they started making the roos my head could turn, even if the club was called "you can't support this club unless you belong to this ethnicity fc". So perhaps they should be worried (I could also be tempted by oakleigh cannons since I lived there, and that is definitely a migrant dominated club). But in the end, competition is a chance to get stronger and in an internationally competitive sport we definitely need to get stronger
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The other issue is state representation.

If pro/rel was in place and a club like Adelaide United or Brisbane were relegated that would leave the entire state of South Australia or Queensland without a top flight club.
 
Sharkman84 said:
The other issue is state representation.

If pro/rel was in place and a club like Adelaide United or Brisbane were relegated that would leave the entire state of South Australia or Queensland without a top flight club.
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so? If there is a functioning second division there is still a pathway for players in that state and it gives the club and the state a necessary wake up call and drives improvement
 
grazorblade said:
yeah our league numbers in both eras aren't crazy for our participation rate and transfermarkt value
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You have to remember that both of our big rivals had a massive head start on the A league and the NSL, in terms of when they leagues started out. Australia never had a national league until 1977, i know that predates the current AFL and NRL competitions, but you'll know what i mean, in that they have basically the same NSW and Victorian teams as the vast majority of the league.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
You have to remember that both of our big rivals had a massive head start on the A league and the NSL, in terms of when they leagues started out. Australia never had a national league until 1977, i know that predates the current AFL and NRL competitions, but you'll know what i mean, in that they have basically the same NSW and Victorian teams as the vast majority of the league.
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Also when the VFL went national, they double crossed the SA twice and the WAFL seeing the writing in the wall came along. The old VFL approached the SAFL to merge which was rejected. the VFL then went to Port Adelaide who basically won every year to join and they accepted. the SAFL realising that without Port, they would disappear then approached the VFL with the Adelaide Crows concept to which the VFL accepted and told Port to take a hike. The WAFL then decided to create the WCE to join the AFL. Note that although SA & WA could have fielded two or more teams (Port Adelaide and Fremantle respectively) they chose to remain a one team town until the AFL was bedded down.
So how does this apply to the A-League? Well the A-League excluded the existing state organisations whereas the VFL absorbed them.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
You let your league die, perhaps if you were up for it, it may still be alive.
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Words of enlightenement from the point of view of the "new dawn sheep"... Shows exactly what you know about the history of the game in this country!

Tell me where the mighty SMFC failed the league exactly??
 
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