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2025 Australia Cup

TheSelectFew said:
It would be great to get it over 50% this upcoming year. Areas like regional WA are surely missing out. I know the border regions of NSW and Vic are also missing out. People need to get their clubs involved and engaged.

Can we make it a mission?
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Distances/travel would be a huge challenge for regional Clubs who have next to no funds to cover transport accom in many case's.
Don't get me wrong all for more participation.
My experience with Sydney Jnr NPL for eg, you'd travel past Wollongong to play - for some thats around a 4hr return drive.
Then your also to drive Bathurst return 4hrs.
No fuss to me I luved it but others not.
I got to know quite a few people south of the Gong, they were struggling getting decent players and asked why, training 2/3 a week and weekend games some kids/parents came as far as Yass/Bega - thats hauling some k's.
Hence border or even just passed middle distance is missing out and understandable incl Snr teams.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
I wonder why other clubs dont enter?
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the semi pros is a given in most case's, theres resource.
The good Clubs/players I know don't want to risk injury for in the meantime they are Clubs/team that will be vying for the season title.
Plus many of the players just plainly couldn't give a toss, they train twice a week, work, party, why bother.
Then you have the opposite who do attend for the glory of being in it.
 
LFC said:
the semi pros is a given in most case's, theres resource.
The good Clubs/players I know don't want to risk injury for in the meantime they are Clubs/team that will be vying for the season title.
Plus many of the players just plainly couldn't give a toss, they train twice a week, work, party, why bother.
Then you have the opposite who do attend for the glory of being in it.
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Yeah I get that but what I am more asking is, for example the Sunraysia Football league in VIC has 9 x clubs from what I understand yet only 5 applied, why not the other 4 clubs from the same league?

  • VIC - Sunraysia - 5
Also most are out of the Cup before the season is well and truly underway, why not, at least, use it as an early season warm up?
 
ah yes true, it is played very early those rounds.
Like I said I think Clubs struggle rounding up players to commit, if not many 1st graders they think whats the point.
 
LFC said:
ah yes true, it is played very early those rounds.
Like I said I think Clubs struggle rounding up players to commit, if not many 1st graders they think whats the point.
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yeah its a fair point I guess.... still think its moving from strength to strength every year and would love to see more participation from grassroots clubs.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Yeah I get that but what I am more asking is, for example the Sunraysia Football league in VIC has 9 x clubs from what I understand yet only 5 applied, why not the other 4 clubs from the same league?

  • VIC - Sunraysia - 5
Also most are out of the Cup before the season is well and truly underway, why not, at least, use it as an early season warm up?
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Just to clarify, the list of club numbers by region is not who has entered the cup, but the amount of clubs that exist in that region/association as of 2024. So Sunraysia these days (not counting any clubs that may be in the metro, state or premier leagues) only have Irymple, Nichols Point, Three Colours, Mildura City and Mildura United.
 
NicCarBel said:
Just to clarify, the list of club numbers by region is not who has entered the cup, but the amount of clubs that exist in that region/association as of 2024. So Sunraysia these days (not counting any clubs that may be in the metro, state or premier leagues) only have Irymple, Nichols Point, Three Colours, Mildura City and Mildura United.
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Oh, thanks so much mate. I was going off a quick google search... I defer to your MUCH MUCH MUCH superior research :)

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NicCarBel said:
Using those numbers (and my total numbers)

NSW - 159/556 - 28.6%
VIC - 219/296 - 74.0%
QLD - 126/199 - 63.3%
SA - 52/165 - 31.5%
NNSW - 70/177 - 39.5%
WA - 69/163 - 42.3%
TAS - 20/31 - 64.5%
ACT - 20/37 - 54.1%
NT - 12/17 - 70.6%

Would love to do by region, but would mean breaking down the map for NPL/State leagues, etc (yes, will be mostly metro, but I do know there are some regional teams that compete in metro/state/NPL leagues - this includes Yoogali and Wagga in ACT, La Fiamma in Geraldton WA, Northern Demons in SA to name a few)

Based off current state breakdowns, these are the regions we can use:
  • NT - Northern Zone - 11
  • NT - Central Zone - 1
  • NT - Southern Zone - 5
  • ACT - Canberra - 28
  • ACT - Queanbeyan - 2
  • ACT - NSW - 8
  • TAS - Northern - 9
  • TAS - Southern - 22
  • WA - Perth - 8
  • WA - Great Southern / Albany - 11
  • WA - South West - 18
  • WA - Goldfield / Esperance - 6
  • WA - Mid West / Gascoyne - 7
  • WA - Pilbara / Karratha - 10
  • WA - Kimberley - 2
  • SA - Adelaide - 16
  • SA - Broken Hill - 6
  • SA - Limestone Coast - 6
  • SA - Noarlunga - 1
  • SA - Port Pirie - 0
  • SA - Riverland - 4
  • SA - Roxby Downs - 1
  • SA - Whyalla - 6
  • SA - Yorke Peninsula - 1
  • NNSW - Newcastle - 12
  • NNSW - Hunter Valley - 13
  • NNSW - Macquarie - 4
  • NNSW - Far North Coast - 25
  • NNSW - Mid North Coast - 30
  • NNSW - North Coast (North) - 7
  • NNSW - North Coast (South) - 8
  • NNSW - Northern Inland (North) - 4
  • NNSW - Northern Inland (South) - 4
  • NNSW - Northern Inland (Namoi) - 4
  • QLD - Metro - 51
  • QLD - South Coast - 22
  • QLD - Sunshine Coast - 12
  • QLD - Darling Downs - 14*
  • QLD - Stanthorpe - 6*
  • QLD - Wide Bay - 15
  • QLD - Central Coast - 12
  • QLD - Whitsundays Coast - 9
  • QLD - Northern - 10
  • QLD - Far North - 10*
  • QLD - Gulf - 5*
  • VIC - Metro - 4
  • VIC - Albury-Wodonga - 13
  • VIC - Ballarat - 8
  • VIC - Bendigo - 14
  • VIC - Geelong - 10
  • VIC - Gippsland - 9
  • VIC - La Trobe Valley - 12
  • VIC - South-West Victoria - 7
  • VIC - Sunraysia - 5
  • NSW Metro - Bankstown - 19
  • NSW Metro - Blacktown - 22
  • NSW Metro - Canterbury - 27
  • NSW Metro - Central Coast - 25
  • NSW Metro - Eastern Suburbs - 21
  • NSW Metro - Granville - 23
  • NSW Metro - Hills - 18
  • NSW Metro - Macarthur - 22
  • NSW Metro - Manly-Warringah - 16
  • NSW Metro - Nepean - 29
  • NSW Metro - North West Sydney - 31
  • NSW Metro - Northern Suburbs - 28
  • NSW Metro - South Coast - 40
  • NSW Metro - Southern Districts - 30
  • NSW Metro - St George - 20
  • NSW Metro - Sutherland Shire - 26
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Bathurst) - 16
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Dubbo) - 13
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Lachlan) - 10
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Lithgow) - 3
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Orange) - 10
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Western Plains) - 7
  • NSW Regional - Riverina (Wagga Wagga) - 10
  • NSW Regional - Riverina (Griffith) - 6
  • NSW Regional - Riverina (South West Slopes) - 3
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Far South Coast) - 8
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Highlands) - 8
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Eurobodalla) - 6
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Shoalhaven) - 12
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Southern Tablelands) - 8
  • New Zealand - 2
Probably should include New Zealand, since I’m counting Canberra United as an APL club, this now brings the APL total to 14, and the total clubs to 1655.

Above is the breakdown by region I’ve done so far - noting I haven’t gone through the following numbers wise. (which are mostly metro though).
  • WA NPL, State, Metropolitan, and Amateur leagues
  • SA NPL, State, Amateur, and Collegiate leagues
  • NNSW NPL, Zone Leagues, North Coast Premier League, Northern Inland Premier League
  • QLD NPL and QPL 1 and 2
  • VIC NPL, VPL, State, and Metropolitan leagues
  • NSW NPL, League 1 and 2
Those with asterisks are regions that are sub regions that named the same as the main region, so have included in that for now, but haven’t formally split the top league up.

APL clubs have been included in what I’ve determined as their association (all 3 Melbourne teams as Metro, Mariners in Central Coast, Wanderers in Granville, Sydney in Eastern Suburbs, everywhere else is pretty straight forward)
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Slowly updating this when I get time now (only will list what's changed until I get to the end):
After reviewing WA and connected leagues:
WA - Mid West/Gascoyne - 8
WA - Perth - 99

After reviewing SA and connected leagues:
SA - Port Pirie - 2
SA - Adelaide - 135
 
NicCarBel said:
Using those numbers (and my total numbers)

NSW - 159/556 - 28.6%
VIC - 219/296 - 74.0%
QLD - 126/199 - 63.3%
SA - 52/165 - 31.5%
NNSW - 70/177 - 39.5%
WA - 69/163 - 42.3%
TAS - 20/31 - 64.5%
ACT - 20/37 - 54.1%
NT - 12/17 - 70.6%

Would love to do by region, but would mean breaking down the map for NPL/State leagues, etc (yes, will be mostly metro, but I do know there are some regional teams that compete in metro/state/NPL leagues - this includes Yoogali and Wagga in ACT, La Fiamma in Geraldton WA, Northern Demons in SA to name a few)

Based off current state breakdowns, these are the regions we can use:
  • NT - Northern Zone - 11
  • NT - Central Zone - 1
  • NT - Southern Zone - 5
  • ACT - Canberra - 28
  • ACT - Queanbeyan - 2
  • ACT - NSW - 8
  • TAS - Northern - 9
  • TAS - Southern - 22
  • WA - Perth - 8
  • WA - Great Southern / Albany - 11
  • WA - South West - 18
  • WA - Goldfield / Esperance - 6
  • WA - Mid West / Gascoyne - 7
  • WA - Pilbara / Karratha - 10
  • WA - Kimberley - 2
  • SA - Adelaide - 16
  • SA - Broken Hill - 6
  • SA - Limestone Coast - 6
  • SA - Noarlunga - 1
  • SA - Port Pirie - 0
  • SA - Riverland - 4
  • SA - Roxby Downs - 1
  • SA - Whyalla - 6
  • SA - Yorke Peninsula - 1
  • NNSW - Newcastle - 12
  • NNSW - Hunter Valley - 13
  • NNSW - Macquarie - 4
  • NNSW - Far North Coast - 25
  • NNSW - Mid North Coast - 30
  • NNSW - North Coast (North) - 7
  • NNSW - North Coast (South) - 8
  • NNSW - Northern Inland (North) - 4
  • NNSW - Northern Inland (South) - 4
  • NNSW - Northern Inland (Namoi) - 4
  • QLD - Metro - 51
  • QLD - South Coast - 22
  • QLD - Sunshine Coast - 12
  • QLD - Darling Downs - 14*
  • QLD - Stanthorpe - 6*
  • QLD - Wide Bay - 15
  • QLD - Central Coast - 12
  • QLD - Whitsundays Coast - 9
  • QLD - Northern - 10
  • QLD - Far North - 10*
  • QLD - Gulf - 5*
  • VIC - Metro - 4
  • VIC - Albury-Wodonga - 13
  • VIC - Ballarat - 8
  • VIC - Bendigo - 14
  • VIC - Geelong - 10
  • VIC - Gippsland - 9
  • VIC - La Trobe Valley - 12
  • VIC - South-West Victoria - 7
  • VIC - Sunraysia - 5
  • NSW Metro - Bankstown - 19
  • NSW Metro - Blacktown - 22
  • NSW Metro - Canterbury - 27
  • NSW Metro - Central Coast - 25
  • NSW Metro - Eastern Suburbs - 21
  • NSW Metro - Granville - 23
  • NSW Metro - Hills - 18
  • NSW Metro - Macarthur - 22
  • NSW Metro - Manly-Warringah - 16
  • NSW Metro - Nepean - 29
  • NSW Metro - North West Sydney - 31
  • NSW Metro - Northern Suburbs - 28
  • NSW Metro - South Coast - 40
  • NSW Metro - Southern Districts - 30
  • NSW Metro - St George - 20
  • NSW Metro - Sutherland Shire - 26
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Bathurst) - 16
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Dubbo) - 13
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Lachlan) - 10
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Lithgow) - 3
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Orange) - 10
  • NSW Regional - Western NSW (Western Plains) - 7
  • NSW Regional - Riverina (Wagga Wagga) - 10
  • NSW Regional - Riverina (Griffith) - 6
  • NSW Regional - Riverina (South West Slopes) - 3
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Far South Coast) - 8
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Highlands) - 8
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Eurobodalla) - 6
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Shoalhaven) - 12
  • NSW Regional - Southern NSW (Southern Tablelands) - 8
  • New Zealand - 2
Probably should include New Zealand, since I’m counting Canberra United as an APL club, this now brings the APL total to 14, and the total clubs to 1655.

Above is the breakdown by region I’ve done so far - noting I haven’t gone through the following numbers wise. (which are mostly metro though).
  • WA NPL, State, Metropolitan, and Amateur leagues
  • SA NPL, State, Amateur, and Collegiate leagues
  • NNSW NPL, Zone Leagues, North Coast Premier League, Northern Inland Premier League
  • QLD NPL and QPL 1 and 2
  • VIC NPL, VPL, State, and Metropolitan leagues
  • NSW NPL, League 1 and 2
Those with asterisks are regions that are sub regions that named the same as the main region, so have included in that for now, but haven’t formally split the top league up.

APL clubs have been included in what I’ve determined as their association (all 3 Melbourne teams as Metro, Mariners in Central Coast, Wanderers in Granville, Sydney in Eastern Suburbs, everywhere else is pretty straight forward)
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Surprised at low percentage of participating clubs in NSW, SA and NNSW, especially when compared to Victoria (and NT).

NSW was the last Federation to start rounds/games for at least the last 2 years.
 
ossi said:
Surprised at low percentage of participating clubs in NSW, SA and NNSW, especially when compared to Victoria (and NT).

NSW was the last Federation to start rounds/games for at least the last 2 years.
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A lot of it would be regional clubs not taking part. For example, I know only 2 clubs from Griffith took part (3 if you count the extra that’s technically part of ACT), because of travel costs, and generally, if they draw a home game first, the Sydney team decides to forfeit because they can’t be bothered travelling.

NT is primarily split into two cities, so the travel isn’t too bad (I have a feeling the cup is split into North and South), and the travel isn’t nearly as bad for Victoria in comparison to NSW.

Will shed a bit more light on it when I get more chance to sit down and focus on clubs entering the cup from each of the aforementioned regions.
 
Can't believe there are some people whining about this on other platforms. If they really need a mission, they should go after AFL and NRL being sponsored by gambling.
 
whats the whinning about ?
Alcohol ? or those bubble tea types got gazumped haha
 
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