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Acknowledge the a league☝️

melbcityguy said:
We have a few people on here that like to stick the boot in the a league. A lot of it is deserved to be fair but in the interest of being fair I want the regulars to come on here and acknowledge the a league has helped win us the under 20s asian cup.
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Hahahahah not going to happen. not while grassroots clubs develop these player, teach them how to play and then they are poached by the franchises.. Why dont you go out to their state league clubs and thank them personally for creating these wonderful players despite NO financial incentive (and seemingly no recognition from the new dawners either) to do so.

Where were the following before they turned:
Alex Badolato - 14 years old
Steven Hall - 15 years old
Kikianis - 16 years old
Okon's lad - Belgium and now Benfica
Musa Toure - 15 years old.

In fact I think only Jovanovic (who I think is a fantastic player btw) has been "developed" by the Aleague .... pull your head in son.
 
I think Melbcityguy means not just the clubs they played at as kids but the minutes they’ve played in the A-League against men that are full professionals. And training full time with a professional club not semi-pro. I’d love to say that my days playing for Coffs Harbour’s Westlawn Tigers in the under 8s had a massive impact on my football career but I’d be exaggerating at best and lying at worst.
 
melbcityguy said:
We have a few people on here that like to stick the boot in the a league. A lot of it is deserved to be fair but in the interest of being fair I want the regulars to come on here and acknowledge the a league has helped win us the under 20s asian cup.
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Definitely helped.

The exposure to a higher level of competition is what we would hope one day will be forged from Kitwally's U8s through to the top flight for anyone capable by dint of the mythical P/R.

And you have to go back how many generations of their lineage and support staff to thank everyone involved in their development? Let's not be blinkered by 'only' football now :P.
 
RIMB said:
Definitely helped.

The exposure to a higher level of competition is what we would hope one day will be forged from Kitwally's U8s through to the top flight for anyone capable by dint of the mythical P/R.

And you have to go back how many generations of their lineage and support staff to thank everyone involved in their development? Let's not be blinkered by 'only' football now :P.
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Yes, we should all be thanking Mum and Dad!
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Hahahahah not going to happen. not while grassroots clubs develop these player, teach them how to play and then they are poached by the franchises.. Why dont you go out to their state league clubs and thank them personally for creating these wonderful players despite NO financial incentive (and seemingly no recognition from the new dawners either) to do so.

Where were the following before they turned:
Alex Badolato - 14 years old
Steven Hall - 15 years old
Kikianis - 16 years old
Okon's lad - Belgium and now Benfica
Musa Toure - 15 years old.

In fact I think only Jovanovic (who I think is a fantastic player btw) has been "developed" by the Aleague .... pull your head in son.
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I suggest that the main point here is that the football ecosystem nurtures these players, but the A League gives them a destination where they can become professional footballers at home.

We need both, and I agree that in an ideal world the development clubs should be rewarded for their work.
 
Its good to see most of these U20's have piled their trade in the NPL comps considering their ages.
Minor AL appearances and minutes but overall good being in Pro clubs which is the big lack of we complaim of, one day hope we have double the amount of Pro clubs then as I've mentioned elsewhere before, %'s rule, more players more to chose from and competition and retain the many that go to other codes.
Interesting and as known some of these key young players went/are abroad early which is even better imo developing their man on man skill and competitiveness.
 
LFC said:
Its good to see most of these U20's have piled their trade in the NPL comps considering their ages.
Minor AL appearances and minutes but overall good being in Pro clubs which is the big lack of we complaim of, one day hope we have double the amount of Pro clubs then as I've mentioned elsewhere before, %'s rule, more players more to chose from and competition and retain the many that go to other codes.
Interesting and as known some of these key young players went/are abroad early which is even better imo developing their man on man skill and competitiveness.
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Underlines the importance of a pro second division.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
I suggest that the main point here is that the football ecosystem nurtures these players, but the A League gives them a destination where they can become professional footballers at home.

We need both, and I agree that in an ideal world the development clubs should be rewarded for their work.
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I agree with you 100% but I suggest MCG's main point is some sort of win for the much maligned franchise system.... anyway, just yanking his chain.... Im happy for the kids to get the win, lets hope some of them actually become decent players and go on to have great careers.

Youth world cup and confederation cups are won by all sorts of random nations ... doesnt translate very often to international first team success. Serbia, England and Ukraine won the past 3 U20s WC (before Uruguay the most recent) for example.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
I suggest that the main point here is that the football ecosystem nurtures these players, but the A League gives them a destination where they can become professional footballers at home.

We need both, and I agree that in an ideal world the development clubs should be rewarded for their work.
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Yes, despite the doom & gloom of the A-League, it shows that the football ecosystem, while not perfect yet, we are seeing some fruits.
While winning a trophy or 2 is not the important thing, it does show that the system is starting to produce more technical players & players who technique is comparable to the rest of Asia, instead of the good old Aussie DNA I've seen in the last 50 odd years.
 
Robbos said:
Yes, despite the doom & gloom of the A-League, it shows that the football ecosystem, while not perfect yet, we are seeing some fruits.
While winning a trophy or 2 is not the important thing, it does show that the system is starting to produce more technical players & players who technique is comparable to the rest of Asia, instead of the good old Aussie DNA I've seen in the last 50 odd years.
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I hope your right mate... I only caught the highlights package but the Saudis seemed alot slicker on the ball.... penalties is penalties..
 
Robbos said:
There is a whole thread on it in the Socceroos section, many on there impressed with the way we playing.
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Yeah man, I listed the ones I noticed at the start of this thread.... like I said, I hope they develop further in their careers, now more than ever...
 
During state of origin line up announcements they announce each players junior club. It's a nice touch and I'd like to see something similar
 
For all it's faults and all the management mistakes coupled at times with over hype.... The a-league is still standing with a FTA broadcast contract and all matches streamed. This is actually a big deal.

The a-league has many people who deride it...many more see Australian professional Football as a joke at all levels . Football in general has poor reporting of its successes and over reporting of its failures. That this sides success is so poorly reported is very sad but highlights imo some of our issues in as a code being able to capitalise on our successes.

MCG, the a-league played a large part in the development of this squad as did other levels of the Australian football environment.

What can be said is for once we did some long term planning at youth development the system that Kim set up is paying off.

Add the JJ effect and systems he put on place combined with a huge increase in revenue to help with the development.

Back to the theme of the thread, yes huge congratulations to the a-league for the part it's played but let's equally not ignore the role of the junior development programs nor the management of FA.
 
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