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This type of scoring record should equate to being challenged and comfortable in the A League. The top Slovenian clubs are a supermarket for Italian clubs.
I’ve said for years that our players should look to central/eastern Europe as their first EU destination instead of say, Scotland. Dare I suggest a factor in this is that our players nowadays are cultural softc0ck$ in not feeling they have to learn a foreign language(obv. moreso in the case of ā€˜skip’ players like Josh Nisbet)..to say nothing of the BS perception that the region’s leagues are beneath themšŸ˜”
 
Hearts (Devlin, Rowles, Nieuwenhof) 2-1 win v St Johnstone is big news taking them out of the relegation zone and above Ross County (Nisbet) 2nd last and St Johnstone who are last.
 
I’ve said for years that our players should look to central/eastern Europe as their first EU destination instead of say, Scotland. Dare I suggest a factor in this is that our players nowadays are cultural softc0ck$ in not feeling they have to learn a foreign language(obv. moreso in the case of ā€˜skip’ players like Josh Nisbet)..to say nothing of the BS perception that the region’s leagues are beneath themšŸ˜”
There are a lot of assumptions there. There's probably some truth to it with some players. It may also be that the playing opportunities are being offered by British sides rather than continental teams. In Nisbets case he held out for Netherlands, the deal collapsed, and was left with Scotland or a return to the AL from what I understand.
 
There are a lot of assumptions there. There's probably some truth to it with some players. It may also be that the playing opportunities are being offered by British sides rather than continental teams. In Nisbets case he held out for Netherlands, the deal collapsed, and was left with Scotland or a return to the AL from what I understand.
I concede that a fair bit(if not most) of the time, it’s down to the player-agents.

At the end of the day, it’s just that mindset of ā€œthe Slovenian league must be šŸ’©šŸ  if Deni Juric’s on track to win its Golden Bootā€ that grinds my gears; it smacks of āš½ļø-illiteracy that’s the cultural-byproduct of ā€˜EPL or bust’..
 
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There are a lot of assumptions there. There's probably some truth to it with some players. It may also be that the playing opportunities are being offered by British sides rather than continental teams. In Nisbets case he held out for Netherlands, the deal collapsed, and was left with Scotland or a return to the AL from what I understand.
My question is why were those Nisbet's only options? What was his agent doing? My impression of the agents for Aussie players, following a long, long line of awful moves, is that most are little more than glorified order-takers. I've seen it suggested that Nisbet's size was the problem but haven't had that confirmed, only speculated. Do the agents get off their collective backsides, identify prospective targets and make the approach? Certainly I'm aware that players can place limitations on their careers as was the case with Luongo, for example, who declared that he would not entertain any offer from the continent, following interest from Spain. So it could be that a number of players are insisting on Britain. In that respect I think it is an advantage for the Japanese to have no cultural ties to Europe, and admire their willingness to take the leap and challenge of the big language barrier. Nevertheless, my feeling is the agents for Aussie players should be doing better. Some of the moves have frankly been ridiculous.
 
My question is why were those Nisbet's only options? What was his agent doing? My impression of the agents for Aussie players, following a long, long line of awful moves, is that most are little more than glorified order-takers. I've seen it suggested that Nisbet's size was the problem but haven't had that confirmed, only speculated. Do the agents get off their collective backsides, identify prospective targets and make the approach? Certainly I'm aware that players can place limitations on their careers as was the case with Luongo, for example, who declared that he would not entertain any offer from the continent, following interest from Spain. So it could be that a number of players are insisting on Britain. In that respect I think it is an advantage for the Japanese to have no cultural ties to Europe, and admire their willingness to take the leap and challenge of the big language barrier. Nevertheless, my feeling is the agents for Aussie players should be doing better. Some of the moves have frankly been ridiculous.
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A League is ranked number 11 in AFC at the moment.

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Then if they look up at AFC champions League table they ll go "Oh shit the club from an A league @ the bottom so the standard must be low"

Until A league starts to get good results and improve the standard, the agents cant do much in negotiation.

Even the top asean players from Vietnam/Malaysia/Thailand/Indo cant go straight from their league to Belgium/Scotland/Dutch/Swiss/The Championship but the aussies can maybe got to do with the culture/ language/ Physical body are similar to European nations make it easy to adapt than guys lets say from Thailand or Vietnam.

Ive watched A league every week and some of the young players still cant do basic first touch properly or pass & move football. You can see that off the ball they still dont know where to run & what to do.
 
Ive watched A league every week and some of the young players still cant do basic first touch properly or pass & move football. You can see that off the ball they still dont know where to run & what to do.
I agree I don't get the hype atm. Yes we have some promising youngsters but the overall standard is still very low.
 
I agree I don't get the hype atm. Yes we have some promising youngsters but the overall standard is still very low.
Even then I imagine said youngsters aren't given quite as much freedom to express themselves, in comparison to their predecessors.

Not to turn this into another "NSL vs. A-League" debate per se, but take this from the '88 NSL season; the young Trimmers doing his thing for South Melbourne (Mins. 1:39 to 1:51 specifically):


Still just 19yo at the time, and I'm pretty certain he'd already cemented himself as a starter in that Hellas side; @Monoethnic Social Club would have better memories of this than most of us on here, surely.
 
My question is why were those Nisbet's only options? What was his agent doing? My impression of the agents for Aussie players, following a long, long line of awful moves, is that most are little more than glorified order-takers. I've seen it suggested that Nisbet's size was the problem but haven't had that confirmed, only speculated. Do the agents get off their collective backsides, identify prospective targets and make the approach? Certainly I'm aware that players can place limitations on their careers as was the case with Luongo, for example, who declared that he would not entertain any offer from the continent, following interest from Spain. So it could be that a number of players are insisting on Britain. In that respect I think it is an advantage for the Japanese to have no cultural ties to Europe, and admire their willingness to take the leap and challenge of the big language barrier. Nevertheless, my feeling is the agents for Aussie players should be doing better. Some of the moves have frankly been ridiculous.
I can confirm it.

Not exactly from the horse's mouth, but close enough. They just can't see past his height.
 
I agree I would to see more of our players play in those continental leagues as it may suit their style a bit more but as someone said maybe having cultural ties to the UK plus the language barrier make a more appealing decision to play over in the big pond?

Seeing some the Japanese players play in the top leagues make me envy.
 
Paul Okon- Engstler was subbed on at 92' for Benfica B in Portugal Liga 2.
That's his first minutes in the Liga since the first game of the season back in August, when he was subbed on at 69' and then red-carded at 75'.
He has, however, been playing mostly full games in the U21 Premier League International Cup. Only 19 and contracted until June next year, so hopefully Benfica will be positive about his further development.
 
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