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Australian politics.

Lupi said:
so this happened while you were all distracted...

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We've been through this loopy. The bipartisan bill I'm assuming. You were asked what you find distasteful about it and yet, despite multiple requests, all you could offer was waffle.

Get specific lad. What are your primary objections?
 
booney52 said:
That's going to be a long time happening as the most accepted definition of a baby boomer is someone born between 1946 and 1964.Therefore the oldest ones are 78 and the youngest 60.The average expectancy for women in Australia is 85.3 and for men 81.2 so a lot of the oldest boomers are going to be around for quite a few years and the youngest ones for a very long time.It will be a very gradual transfer of wealth apart from a succession of pandemics occurring
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its already happening

wealth transfer isn't always on death either
 
LFC said:
yer ta thought it meant either ither.
Yep no doubt - some living on welfare but happy thats how it goes.
I find it amusing v g studs reckons all is good funnily in 25/30/40 yrs time hahaha
Talk about crystal guessing ball stuff thats for sure.
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10 years for many boomers, which isn't long
 
Muz said:
We've been through this loopy. The bipartisan bill I'm assuming. You were asked what you find distasteful about it and yet, despite multiple requests, all you could offer was waffle.

Get specific lad. What are your primary objections?
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people like you should need to justify it first

your late night comedy shows wont be affected
 
Muz said:
Yep. My dad didn't have super but did buy some shares. (Nowhere near enough though. ) My mum lives on a pension. There's plenty around like her.

Most of her widowed friends are eking out and existence.
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Ofcourse there are ... thats why the whole "fear of the boomers" is a bit of a strawman....
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Lots of "boomers'" worked hard in Australia and bought property and shares which they will be able to pass on their children and grand children in the years to come.. However lots DIDN'T and wont have anything to pass down...
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Pissed it all up against a wall?

No sympathy.
 
meanwhile in the USA, Trump is going to allow a free for all online... the contrast with Australia couldn't be more pronounced on this front

 
vo2Max said:
Pissed it all up against a wall?

No sympathy.
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Do you have sympathy to the ones who were disabled? Or had misfortune in their lives? An early death perhaps or just bad addictions they couldn't overcome (Although I guess the conservative view is the drugs, gambling and alcohol are a vice NOT a disease?)

Its easy to draw a line and be polarising in your views but not all poor people are scum that need to be sent to the camps.... Even the high quality elites need someone to boss around....
 
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Monoethnic Social Club said:
Do you have sympathy to the ones who were disabled? Or had misfortune in their lives? An early death perhaps or just bad addictions they couldn't overcome (Although I guess the conservative view is the drugs, gambling and alcohol are a vice NOT a disease?)

Its easy to draw a line and be polarising in your views but not all poor people are scum that need to be sent to the camps.... Even the high quality elites need someone to boss around....
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I'll speak on the bad addictions part.

I know someone personally who has pissed their life down drain, specifically with these addictions.
Yes, there is some underlying issues there, but when the addictions are blown up because of the way they have used people for personal gain and to fuel this addiction of theirs, it doesn't sit well with me.

It's not good to generalise though, so I wouldn't place everyone into this person's circumstances - context is always key. But in this particular instance that I know of - no sympathy. The addiction is backed by lies and deception, no matter how many interventions, or how much support and assistance is given.
 
NicCarBel said:
I'll speak on the bad addictions part.

I know someone personally who has pissed their life down drain, specifically with these addictions.
Yes, there is some underlying issues there, but when the addictions are blown up because of the way they have used people for personal gain and to fuel this addiction of theirs, it doesn't sit well with me.

It's not good to generalise though, so I wouldn't place everyone into this person's circumstances - context is always key. But in this particular instance that I know of - no sympathy. The addiction is backed by lies and deception, no matter how many interventions, or how much support and assistance is given.
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100% behind you Nic... Context is ALWAYS key.. Generational poverty is real issue though and as unfair as it is the sins of the fathers carry on to their sons (or daughters) more often than not...
 
NicCarBel said:
I'll speak on the bad addictions part.

I know someone personally who has pissed their life down drain, specifically with these addictions.
Yes, there is some underlying issues there, but when the addictions are blown up because of the way they have used people for personal gain and to fuel this addiction of theirs, it doesn't sit well with me.

It's not good to generalise though, so I wouldn't place everyone into this person's circumstances - context is always key. But in this particular instance that I know of - no sympathy. The addiction is backed by lies and deception, no matter how many interventions, or how much support and assistance is given.
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Well of course. My uncle was a layabout workshy bloke that barely worked a day in his life. But one swallow doesn't make a summer.

No sympathy for him but remember a lot of boomers are new Australians, had no super, were financially illiterate and a lot of them, due to their limited English worked menial jobs. And that's just immigrants not to mention the vast majority of boomers finished school in Year 10 back then and worked straight out of school and didn't have super either. They believed, and were told, that the pension would look after them after they retired.

Super is only a relatively new concept.
 
Muz said:
Well of course. My uncle was a layabout workshy bloke that barely worked a day in his life. But one swallow doesn't make a summer.

No sympathy for him but remember a lot of boomers are new Australians, had no super, were financially illiterate and a lot of them, due to their limited English worked menial jobs. And that's just immigrants not to mention the vast majority of boomers finished school in Year 10 back then and worked straight out of school and didn't have super either. They believed, and were told, that the pension would look after them after they retired.

Super is only a relatively new concept.
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Today's woefully underprepared still had 32 years of super.
 
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