Australian politics.

[Football us life]

The future of all Israeli LGBTQi communities, lesbians, homosexuals, bisexuals, trans people, cis gender and intersex people is trivial?

Under Hamas governance arrangements in a new ' Palestinian' state they would be in severe danger.

Capital punishment for homosexuals in the Gaza Strip has been enforced by multiple governments, militaries, and irregular militias under Sharia Law throughout the area's history including Hamas's tenure....

Trivial?

Hardly?

Even in the West Bank homosexuality is considered a taboo subject, with LGBTQi people often experiencing persecution and violence....

Trivial he says?

Oh my...

 

[zimbos05]

The future of all Israeli LGBTQi communities, lesbians, homosexuals, bisexuals, trans people, cis gender and intersex people is trivial?

Under Hamas governance arrangements in a new ' Palestinian' state they would be in severe danger.

Capital punishment for homosexuals in the Gaza Strip has been enforced by multiple governments, militaries, and irregular militias under Sharia Law throughout the area's history including Hamas's tenure....

Trivial?

Hardly?

Even in the West Bank homosexuality is considered a taboo subject, with LGBTQi people often experiencing persecution and violence....

Trivial he says?

Oh my...

GENOCIDE!!!!

• More than 41,870: Number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli military. More than 10,000 others have been reported missing under the rubble and presumed dead. Most of the dead are women and children. According to an analysis by Oxfam: “More women and children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military over the past year than the equivalent period of any other conflict over the past two decades.”
• As many as 186,000 or more: Estimate of the total number of Palestinian deaths directly or indirectly attributable to Israel’s genocide as of July 2024, including from reproductive, communicable, and non-communicable diseases, according to an analysis published in The Lancet medical journal.
• More than 16,750: Number of Palestinian children killed by the Israeli military, including approximately 1,300 infants and toddlers under the age of two. More than 4,000 others are estimated to be missing under the rubble and presumed dead. As noted by U.N.I.C.E.F.: “The Gaza Strip is the most dangerous place in the world to be a child.”
• At least 6,297: Number of Palestinian women killed by the Israeli military.
• At least 2,955: Number elderly Palestinians killed by the Israeli military.
• At least 902: Number of Palestinian families killed by the Israeli military, with the entire familial line wiped out.
• More than 900: Number of Palestinian medical workers killed by the Israeli military, including at least 165 doctors (including more than 50 highly specialized doctors), and 260 nurses.
• At least 306:: Number of Palestinian humanitarian workers killed by the Israeli military, including at least 222 who worked for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (U.N.R.W.A.). An investigation by Forensic Architecture documented more than 40 attacks by the Israeli military on Palestinians seeking aid and the destruction of more than 100 shelters that distributed humanitarian aid, noting: “When flour is distributed to bakeries, bakeries are targeted. When aid starts to be distributed to schools, then schools become the target,”
• At least 157: Number of Palestinian journalists killed by the Israeli military. According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, Israel's war in Gaza is “the most dangerous situation for journalists we have ever seen.”
• At least 60: Number of Palestinians who have died in Israeli captivity since October 2023, including at least three doctors.

 

[Football us life]

Yes the Israeli Government is terrible, terrible but Zimbos is deflecting away from my point as he has throughout the entire thread .

 

[tsf]

No seriously...

We know all this about Netanyahu but what would you do. How would you deal with Hamas? I mean you cannot surely deny what happened on October 7th was anything other than barbaric too....

Or are you one of those people who have airbrushed that day from history?

I was serious.

He doesn’t care less about the hostage. He’s basically killed them all.

The IDF blasted away everyone leaving that music festival.

They’re barbarians - Hamas or Israel. Don’t know who is worse. But I know who has killed more innocent people over fuck all with sick twisted pleasure.

The absolute worst depraved cunts on earth. Up there with Isis.

 

[zimbos05]

Yes the Israeli Government is terrible, terrible but Zimbos is deflecting away from my point as he has throughout the entire thread .

I'm not. Your point is moot in the context of a genocide. I've also stated that the solution is a two state solution. Not a state in which Hamas has control.

You are stuck on your own little battle because by acknowledging the genocide, it means you side with those people who protest in the streets, and you can't do that. So, you are deflecting with a strawman.

 

[melbcityguy]

I'm not. Your point is moot in the context of a genocide. I've also stated that the solution is a two state solution. Not a state in which Hamas has control.

You are stuck on your own little battle because by acknowledging the genocide, it means you side with those people who protest in the streets, and you can't do that. So, you are deflecting with a strawman.

I'm actually fine with two state solution and Hamas not being in control

 

[Muz]

Hamas are a bunch of cunce but Israel top them easily.

Netanyahu has Trump in his pocket. He's a disgrace. The prick was going to jail until Hamas killed all those concert goers.

I'm not a conspiracy nut but that was very convenient timing.

 

[theFOOTBALLlover]

The Jewish people have deep historical and religious ties to the land of Israel, with evidence of their presence dating back thousands of years before they were expelled by the Roman Empire.

Despite being scattered throughout the world during various points in history, the Jewish people maintained a strong connection to the land of Israel through religious practices, prayers, and an enduring hope of eventual return.

Diaspora Jews yearned to return to the Jewish homeland and the holy Jewish city of Jerusalem.

Surely you can't deny the Jewish people a homeland in terms of a Jewish State.

There are 50 or so Islamic countries in the world and 1 Jewish country. And you guys wants it too?

Just because Zionists demand a Jewish state does not mean all Jewish people believe the same thing. Lets not label all the Jewish people as having the same belief in "Israel". You do realise that the Zionists looked at other places to set up their homeland, right? You've read your history on this topic, right?

Please stop using the word Jew/Jewish to describe the Zionists. They are two different things. Please stop using Islamic/Palestinian/Arab as the same thing, as they are not. There were non-Muslim Palestinians before and after the Nakba.

Also, what about the connection that the Palestinians have to the land? Are they not entitled to live in their homeland in peace? To be treated with dignity?

How far do we want to go back in history because the world would like very different. If we want to go back 2000 years, we will have a big problem.

To put it simply, colonisers are terrorists and the colonised are the freedom fighters.

 

[theFOOTBALLlover]

Ok so where should the Israelis live?

Live in Palestine in peace or return to their homeland? Pretty simple. You do realise it was the Palestinians that gave the Jewish people in after the Nazi's tried to kill them. The Zionists took advantage.