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Chronicles of a stable genius - all the biggliest stuff

johnsmith said:
Two things can be going on simultaneously. Hence it is both electioneering and profiteering at the same time - but the timing of it indicates it is weighted towards electioneering, with a bit of profiteering thrown in. That is how to think this through systematically.

To say it is one and not the other is a "false dichotomy" (look it up).

If you realised that - but persuaded people it's just profiteering - then that's cunning deception.

If you did not realise that, then that's one-dimensional thinking.
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Pasquali said:
He talked about building a wall last time and nothing was done. It’s probably just his pre election talk
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I can't stand Trump but he's right about the border. Every country should have control of their borders.

It should be just a given. The fact just about anyone can wander over the border is nuts. Met a whole bunch of poms in Europe who were lamenting the fact they have no contol over their's at the moment.
 
Muz said:
I can't stand Trump but he's right about the border. Every country should have control of their borders.

It should be just a given. The fact just about anyone can wander over the border is nuts. Met a whole bunch of poms in Europe who were lamenting the fact they have no contol over their's at the moment.
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Apparently it cost USA $15,000 per person to deport each illegal. Apart from the obvious ethical grounds, financially it doesn’t make sense to deport a grandmother who had been there 20 years
 
Pasquali said:
All these tariffs only for AI to take the jobs in a few years anyway
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Like Apple are going to up and move their giant factories from China or Samsung from South Korea to America because Trump whacks on a tariff. He's delusional.
 
Pasquali said:
Apparently it cost USA $15,000 per person to deport each illegal. Apart from the obvious ethical grounds, financially it doesn’t make sense to deport a grandmother who had been there 20 years
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I read it'd cost a trillion dollars and the GDP would take an 8% hit if he deported 11 million people like he's threatening to do.

It won't happen anyway. The first thing that would happen is it would be tied up in court for years. Then he can claim he wanted to do it but the 'deep state' cock blocked him. He'd have a point.

Having said all of that. Anyone that's come over the border within the last (pick a number) of years should be fair game.
 
yer the tariff argument is a double edged sword.
I actually commended his chinese imports raise of 20% his last tenure - but it does screw up USA companies who are importing in shed loads ! followed by them to Export.
I deal with USA auto parts companies and that increase shifted more of our purchasing and our customers through us away from Ex USA for some of the lines they imported from China selling out got to exxy.
The prob many USA companies have been out sourcing ex China for decades now as well, even set up Shanghai offices/warehouse's - think Home Depot/huge spare parts shops/companies ie like Repco, these companies though have 5,000+ branch's around the USA then add in their expansions into Latin Merica/Mexico.
I then have heated discussions with the USA honcho's I deal with pissed our purchase's have decreased lol.....
Then at the same time some/many have set up shop in Mex due to lower labour costs etc And the OE's such as Toyota etc have built new factories in Mexico to service latin merica and USA.
It all is so fucked up its not funny.
They are in the same position as what happened to us - losing local Manufacturing due to more competitive imports AND thats all the consumer wants more than most is cheaper buying.
HTF are they going to re ignite manufacturing in the USA is same prob here, buckleys.
 
Scary how AI now can do a comedic tone of voice and add creativity to the output
 
LFC said:
yer the tariff argument is a double edged sword.
I actually commended his chinese imports raise of 20% his last tenure - but it does screw up USA companies who are importing in shed loads ! followed by them to Export.
I deal with USA auto parts companies and that increase shifted more of our purchasing and our customers through us away from Ex USA for some of the lines they imported from China selling out got to exxy.
The prob many USA companies have been out sourcing ex China for decades now as well, even set up Shanghai offices/warehouse's - think Home Depot/huge spare parts shops/companies ie like Repco, these companies though have 5,000+ branch's around the USA then add in their expansions into Latin Merica/Mexico.
I then have heated discussions with the USA honcho's I deal with pissed our purchase's have decreased lol.....
Then at the same time some/many have set up shop in Mex due to lower labour costs etc And the OE's such as Toyota etc have built new factories in Mexico to service latin merica and USA.
It all is so fucked up its not funny.
They are in the same position as what happened to us - losing local Manufacturing due to more competitive imports AND thats all the consumer wants more than most is cheaper buying.
HTF are they going to re ignite manufacturing in the USA is same prob here, buckleys.
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Maintaining leadership is a difficult thing.

The USA v China dynamic for a long time was built around 2 different advantages. US was the brain economy and China was the scale economy. Neither could get by without the other. The USA needed cheap production and China needed ideas to copy.

The gap is closing though.

The thing with tariffs - they're reactionary. They don't get ahead of anything, they are a panicked response to something already happening. It's the main reason tariffs don't work. Not because... they don't work. but because they're working, but that car you spotted in your rearview about to overtake.... was actually going a fuck tonne faster than you thought.
 
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T_S_F said:
Scary how AI now can do a comedic tone of voice and add creativity to the output
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Microsoft Copilot now has a conversation mode where it talks to you as if there's someone there. Even uses filler words, pauses, umms and ahs to sound more realistic.
 
LFC said:
yer the tariff argument is a double edged sword.
I actually commended his chinese imports raise of 20% his last tenure - but it does screw up USA companies who are importing in shed loads ! followed by them to Export.
I deal with USA auto parts companies and that increase shifted more of our purchasing and our customers through us away from Ex USA for some of the lines they imported from China selling out got to exxy.
The prob many USA companies have been out sourcing ex China for decades now as well, even set up Shanghai offices/warehouse's - think Home Depot/huge spare parts shops/companies ie like Repco, these companies though have 5,000+ branch's around the USA then add in their expansions into Latin Merica/Mexico.
I then have heated discussions with the USA honcho's I deal with pissed our purchase's have decreased lol.....
Then at the same time some/many have set up shop in Mex due to lower labour costs etc And the OE's such as Toyota etc have built new factories in Mexico to service latin merica and USA.
It all is so fucked up its not funny.
They are in the same position as what happened to us - losing local Manufacturing due to more competitive imports AND thats all the consumer wants more than most is cheaper buying.
HTF are they going to re ignite manufacturing in the USA is same prob here, buckleys.
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Which is kind of the point. It sounds wonderful to say 'we're going to bring back manufacturing' (even Albo is guilty of this, let's make solar panels here, WTF!) when the reality is in a globalised economy with FTAs , multi lateral export and import agreements interlinking countries it's dead in the water.
 
Muz said:
Which is kind of the point. It sounds wonderful to say 'we're going to bring back manufacturing' (even Albo is guilty of this, let's make solar panels here, WTF!) when the reality is in a globalised economy with FTAs , multi lateral export and import agreements interlinking countries it's dead in the water.
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The tandoori team needs to talk up manufacturing and tariffs because they need rust belt states and their cheap college votes to overcome the huge advantage the democrats have in basically owning new york and california without needing to lift a finger
 
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