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Sutherlandbear said:
The problems with crowds is to do with geography, in general. Australia is too big to have big away supports in the grounds. Last week WSFC only had about 7000 at Allianz, well down on ten seasons ago. ( not down to geography) You are never going to get 2-3000, say, Brisbane supporters travelling around Australia, as they maybe would in the UK , for instance, instead you get about 50 people, which detracts from a decent atmosphere.
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100% The way AFL and NRl tackle the problem is by having heavy representation in 1-2 states and not needing the travelling supporter to the 1-2 team towns....
 
why I've said the best way for it to survive is east coast based, Bris/Syd/Melb.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
100% The way AFL and NRl tackle the problem is by having heavy representation in 1-2 states and not needing the travelling supporter to the 1-2 team towns....
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What???
For starters the AFL came into existence when the original VFL was going broke with 12 teams. Port Adelaide had dominated the SAFL so much that they wanted better competition and were set to join the VFL for a fee. SAFL got told and their bigotry crumbled (SA are very anti-Victorian) and paid a bigger fee. South Melbourne was sent packing to Sydney and the three state solution came into existence. WA not to be left out because they would not be able to compete salary wise joined a few years later and that crook Chris Skase stumped up to create the Brisbane Bears. For many years only Victoria had multiple teams. I was working in WA back then and there would be plane loads of interstaters flying in to watch matches against the Eagles. Even 8 years ago working in Adelaide getting hotel rooms during the AFL season was hard.
So there are plenty of supporters that make the trip to the 2 team states (all but Victoria). The last two teams created have been abysmal failures crowd wise but the deep pockets of the AFL keep them going.
 
WhatAmIWatching said:
What???
For starters the AFL came into existence when the original VFL was going broke with 12 teams. Port Adelaide had dominated the SAFL so much that they wanted better competition and were set to join the VFL for a fee. SAFL got told and their bigotry crumbled (SA are very anti-Victorian) and paid a bigger fee. South Melbourne was sent packing to Sydney and the three state solution came into existence. WA not to be left out because they would not be able to compete salary wise joined a few years later and that crook Chris Skase stumped up to create the Brisbane Bears. For many years only Victoria had multiple teams. I was working in WA back then and there would be plane loads of interstaters flying in to watch matches against the Eagles. Even 8 years ago working in Adelaide getting hotel rooms during the AFL season was hard.
So there are plenty of supporters that make the trip to the 2 team states (all but Victoria). The last two teams created have been abysmal failures crowd wise but the deep pockets of the AFL keep them going.
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I meant more that Adelaide and WA AFL clubs have their own massive fanbases and any Victorians coming over are just icing on the cake...
 
HappyGuus said:
Sounds like APL can't do two things at once. They're waiting for Canberra and can't manage anything else.
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Puts on helmet.

I read crowds are up by 14% on the same time last year..... Ratings are also up and I am told by a lot as are subscriptions.

Also last year had crowds up 8% and almost doubled the ratings.

No major stuff ups over the last two years since the new management team is in place.

Actually APLs weekly show is reasonably quality.... Add they stopped making those crazy statements like we will be the biggest code within ten years.

Further, they started to sell the league as a development league and I think it's working.

Coupled with this is JJ, and IMO his astute management of FA, and getting major tournaments..... hopefully he can also help in getting Perry Park to a small stadium.

In summary, from being at deaths door, say three years ago at one minute to midnight... Football with current FA n APL management is heading north.

The Championship new competition is I think the start of something that if managed well can create a more Football environment.

Better imo for steady growth rather than boom bust over promise.
 
Midfielder said:
Puts on helmet.

I read crowds are up by 14% on the same time last year..... Ratings are also up and I am told by a lot as are subscriptions.

Also last year had crowds up 8% and almost doubled the ratings.

No major stuff ups over the last two years since the new management team is in place.

Actually APLs weekly show is reasonably quality.... Add they stopped making those crazy statements like we will be the biggest code within ten years.

Further, they started to sell the league as a development league and I think it's working.

Coupled with this is JJ, and IMO his astute management of FA, and getting major tournaments..... hopefully he can also help in getting Perry Park to a small stadium.

In summary, from being at deaths door, say three years ago at one minute to midnight... Football with current FA n APL management is heading north.

The Championship new competition is I think the start of something that if managed well can create a more Football environment.

Better imo for steady growth rather than boom bust over promise.
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Agree with all that, well said. I don't mean to contradict myself haha. But I was having a dig at the APL announcing getting to 16 clubs next season, and we haven't heard of any progress, zero. We've only just recently heard that Canberra is out again for next season, but only after being poked by a journalist!

Canberra is holding up the other clubs. Gone nowhere for two years and as far as we know the APL don't have a backup plan. I can only imagine that by now they are holding off for the next broadcast deal, and I hope they don't sell out to them again and we get another Macarthur. But I'm sure promises will be made to them around expansion.
 
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