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Funny, not seeing any excess deaths at world marathons and ultras.

If vaccine left them with a dodgy ticker surely they'd be first to fall, no?
 
vo2Max said:
Funny, not seeing any excess deaths at world marathons and ultras.

If vaccine left them with a dodgy ticker surely they'd be first to fall, no?
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Obviously but please don't start him up again. This thread ran for 3 years over on the other forum with johnsmith constantly posting up easily debunkable garbage.

After 21 pages and 3 years of constantly banging on about it he finally admitted, 'there's not enough data'.

forum.insidesport.com.au

Inside Sport - Australia's premier sports magazine and website

The home of Australian sports news, intelligent journalism and stunning photography.
forum.insidesport.com.au forum.insidesport.com.au

Fuck me sideways.
 
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vo2Max said:
Funny, not seeing any excess deaths at world marathons and ultras.

If vaccine left them with a dodgy ticker surely they'd be first to fall, no?
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You are not a person who is driven by data and evidence. Instead, you're a mocker.

The excess deaths seen in the data of western governments - US, UK, EU, CA, AU for example - are typically around 14-18%. That does not mean that 14% of people are dropping dead. If it were, you'd see that happening. Instead, it is 14-18% over the historical norms of the number of people dying each year. YOU WILL NOT SEE THAT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. The only way to see it is in the data trends.



UK Excess Deaths are Up a Staggering 22% among 1 to 14-Year-Olds After “Magic Juice” Introduced (VIDEO)
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Ed Dowd: UK Excess Deaths are Up a Staggering 22% among 1 to 14-Year-Olds After "Magic Juice" Introduced (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Edward Dowd joined Jimmy Dore recently to discuss the staggering number of excess deaths for children in the UK.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com


Since you think that is pfff, I assume you don't have a child aged 1 to 14 years old.
 
johnsmith said:
You are not a person who is driven by data and evidence. Instead, you're a mocker.

The excess deaths seen in the data of western governments - US, UK, EU, CA, AU for example - are typically around 14-18%. That does not mean that 14% of people are dropping dead. If it were, you'd see that happening. Instead, it is 14-18% over the historical norms of the number of people dying each year. YOU WILL NOT SEE THAT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. The only way to see it is in the data trends.



UK Excess Deaths are Up a Staggering 22% among 1 to 14-Year-Olds After “Magic Juice” Introduced (VIDEO)
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Ed Dowd: UK Excess Deaths are Up a Staggering 22% among 1 to 14-Year-Olds After "Magic Juice" Introduced (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Edward Dowd joined Jimmy Dore recently to discuss the staggering number of excess deaths for children in the UK.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com


Since you think that is pfff, I assume you don't have a child aged 1 to 14 years old.
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Yeah not sure if that answers my question, champ.
 
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vo2Max said:
Yeah not sure if that answers my question, champ.
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Ok, I'll try to answer your question, based on science data.

The governments of all the developed western countries have been keeping records of how many people in their countries die each year. It turns out that those death-rates have been fairly consistent over the decades. But suddenly, in 2020 there was a jump in death-rates. Note that the jump in death-rates did not occur when Covid hit. Instead, the jump in death-rates coincided when the vaccine roll-outs started.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

German Data Analyst Reveals Data from Health Insurance Shows 4 Times Increase in Sudden Deaths Following COVID Vaccine Rollouts | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

German data analyst Tom Lausen held a conference on Monday in the Bundestag to discuss the massive rise in people who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” after the Covid vaccine rollout.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com

If you find the above website dis-tasteful, the article provides links to the German data. You can just focus on the German data from the educational institutes that did the studies.

And I'll answer your comment regarding marathoners and ultras. The government data says, for that age group that these people are typically -- let's say 18 to 35, there would be about an increase in death rates (or whatever the data said for those age groups).

For example, taking the age group of 0-14 years old, if, in a typical year there would be x number of deaths - fairly consistent over the decades - suddenly, after the Covid vaccination rollouts, there was seen a 22% increase in deaths, above historical norms. As said, this does not mean 22% of children under 14 year olds ended up dying. Instead, it means that there was a 22% increase in the number of deaths one would expect in this age group from historical norms.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Ed Dowd: UK Excess Deaths are Up a Staggering 22% among 1 to 14-Year-Olds After "Magic Juice" Introduced (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Edward Dowd joined Jimmy Dore recently to discuss the staggering number of excess deaths for children in the UK.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com

For example:

"Recent research [in 2021] from Israeli scientists published in Nature has highlighted a significant increase in cardiovascular-related emergency calls among young adults following the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines. The study found that from January to May 2021, there was over a 25% increase in calls for cardiac arrest (CA) and acute coronary syndrome (ACS) in the 16-39 age group compared to the same period in 2019-2020. This increase was notably associated with the rates of vaccine doses administered, while no similar rise was linked to COVID-19 infection rates during the same timeframe"​

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9048615/
(note slight corrections mentioned at this link)
 
johnsmith said:
And I'll answer your comment regarding marathoners and ultras. The government data says, for that age group that these people are typically -- let's say 18 to 35, there would be about an increase in death rates (or whatever the data said for those age groups).
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That's a typically wrong assumption. Whilst this age group is well represented there's a massive number of runners over 50. Globally.

For example, in the Sydney marathon (Sept) there was approximately 2,500 runners over the age of 60. No deaths. Similar numbers at other world majors.

City to Surf (Aug), 80,000 participants or thereabouts. Recorded deaths for this race 2013, 2008, 2000. Full of jabbed oldies but no deaths for over ten years.

The ultra scene is full of us old fucks. Big numbers across the globe. After 100k and 4000m of ascent we should be dropping like flies. But that's not happening.

You see, I don't need to cherry pick anything to support a chosen narrative. In my case I've picked a grueling sport, where your heart and lungs are under the pump, that is chockers with old farts in an age bracket that is riddled with life style diseases. Yet they have clearly survived vaccines.

You see, I don't need to jump on any bandwagon. I just look at whats in front of me.
 
vo2Max said:
That's a typically wrong assumption. Whilst this age group is well represented there's a massive number of runners over 50. Globally.

For example, in the Sydney marathon (Sept) there was approximately 2,500 runners over the age of 60. No deaths. Similar numbers at other world majors.

City to Surf (Aug), 80,000 participants or thereabouts. Recorded deaths for this race 2013, 2008, 2000. Full of jabbed oldies but no deaths for over ten years.

The ultra scene is full of us old fucks. Big numbers across the globe. After 100k and 4000m of ascent we should be dropping like flies. But that's not happening.

You see, I don't need to cherry pick anything to support a chosen narrative. In my case I've picked a grueling sport, where your heart and lungs are under the pump, that is chockers with old farts in an age bracket that is riddled with life style diseases. Yet they have clearly survived vaccines.

You see, I don't need to jump on any bandwagon. I just look at whats in front of me.
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Rather than throwing bricks, you have to give an answer to the really disconcerting data -- that these excess deaths are counter-intuitive. One would expect more excess deaths among older people (like you).

But it's the reverse. The excess deaths are happening in the younger people where one would not expect.

e.g myocarditis in younger males.
 
Muz said:
Obviously but please don't start him up again. This thread ran for 3 years over on the other forum with johnsmith constantly posting up easily debunkable garbage.

After 21 pages and 3 years of constantly banging on about it he finally admitted, 'there's not enough data'.

forum.insidesport.com.au

Inside Sport - Australia's premier sports magazine and website

The home of Australian sports news, intelligent journalism and stunning photography.
forum.insidesport.com.au forum.insidesport.com.au

Fuck me sideways.
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Just took a look through the thread you referenced.

Same old same old with these people. All cut and paste, rehashing terms and phrases they've collected from other like-minded dopes on twitter et al. Not an original thought between them. Most of them with the written English skills of a seven year old. As you correctly say, all "easily debunkable garbage".

Gawd bless their idiocy.
 
vo2Max said:
Just took a look through the thread you referenced.

Same old same old with these people. All cut and paste, rehashing terms and phrases they've collected from other like-minded dopes on twitter et al. Not an original thought between them. Most of them with the written English skills of a seven year old. As you correctly say, all "easily debunkable garbage".

Gawd bless their idiocy.
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jamanetwork.com

Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021

This descriptive study compares the effect of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination with BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vs mRNA-1273 (Moderna) on the reported cases of myocarditis in the US after each vaccination dose.
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Title: Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021​
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"The rates of myocarditis cases were highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males aged 12 to 15 years ... , in adolescent males aged 16 to 17 years ... , and in young men aged 18 to 24 years ... , respectively)."​

vo2Max, all your ridiculing is you just reading the newspaper, and mocking anyone who goes against what the TV tells you.

Whereas everything I write about vaccines, I have kept records of reports from medical people, and from medical research.
 
johnsmith said:
jamanetwork.com

Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021

This descriptive study compares the effect of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination with BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vs mRNA-1273 (Moderna) on the reported cases of myocarditis in the US after each vaccination dose.
jamanetwork.com jamanetwork.com
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Title: Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021​
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"The rates of myocarditis cases were highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males aged 12 to 15 years ... , in adolescent males aged 16 to 17 years ... , and in young men aged 18 to 24 years ... , respectively)."​

vo2Max, all your ridiculing is you just reading the newspaper, and mocking anyone who goes against what the TV tells you.

Whereas everything I write about vaccines, I have kept records of reports from medical people, and from medical research.
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I don't read newspapers or watch TV.

Your post tells me you're way far down the rabbit hole and there's no turning back.

Good for you. Have fun. I'm going fishing.
 
T_S_F said:
How may sportspeople have dropped like flies so far JS?
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This article proposes a figure: "2,111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1,483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection"

goodsciencing.com

2111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection - Real Science

It is not normal for young athletes to suffer cardiac arrest or death while playing sport, but most of these come shortly after a COVID shot.
goodsciencing.com

Scroll through the article, and you'll see that it gives citations for the vast majority of the cited 2,111 cases.
 
Goodsciencing, lol.

A self reported bunch of anonymous "investigators" and "truthseekers".

Now looking to depart their site and looking for people to take over running the joint.

Opportunity here for yer, mate 👍🏻
 
vo2Max said:
Goodsciencing, lol.

A self reported bunch of anonymous "investigators" and "truthseekers".

Now looking to depart their site and looking for people to take over running the joint.

Opportunity here for yer, mate 👍🏻
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I will teach you a life lesson here.

There are two types of people: (1) those that mock the source of information, and (2) those that focus on facts/evidence.

For example: if a piece of soiled dunny paper gives a citation of a Wall Street Journal (WSJ) article -- and the WSJ article cites a peer-reviewed medical research paper by doctors from the top universities in the world .... then, you realise, it is the fool who dismisses ALL of it because it came from a smelly piece of toilet paper. In truth, it's the veracity of the information at the end of the trail that matters.

The smart person follows the trail of information to the final source, and checks the medical research paper.

Wheras the idiot dismisses the entire thing because of the smelly dunny paper. That type of person is just good for show-off banter at parties, but they're not the wise people you seek advice for life's greatest problems.

Here, this goodsciencing article cites where they got their source for each report of an athlete dying or suffering a heart attack. That's the part you have to attack and check. You show yourself up as a fool in what you wrote above.
 
Look at the homepage of good sciencing lol

They're also still going on about Ivermectin JFC :ROFLMAO:
 
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