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johnsmith said:
I will teach you a life lesson here.

There are two types of people: (1) those that mock the source of information, and (2) those that focus on facts/evidence.

For example: if a piece of soiled dunny paper gives a citation of a Wall Street Journal (WSJ) article -- and the WSJ article cites a peer-reviewed medical research paper by doctors from the top universities in the world .... then, you realise, it is the fool who dismisses ALL of it because it came from a smelly piece of toilet paper. In truth, it's the veracity of the information at the end of the trail that matters.

The smart person follows the trail of information to the final source, and checks the medical research paper.

Wheras the idiot dismisses the entire thing because of the smelly dunny paper. That type of person is just good for show-off banter at parties, but they're not the wise people you seek advice for life's greatest problems.

Here, this goodsciencing article cites where they got their source for each report of an athlete dying or suffering a heart attack. That's the part you have to attack and check. You show yourself up as a fool in what you wrote above.
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You still remain unable to refute the evidence that I kindly provided you re endurance runners. Not sure why. Perhaps there are no scripted answers 🤷‍♂️

Take your time, run it past your fellow troof seekers, AI or something, and get back to me with some specifics/details.

I'll wait. The fishing is slow 👍🏻
 
Muz said:
Thinks peer review is the gold standard UNLESS it comes to the age of the earth and then 'peer review' is not reputable.
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Took 3 seconds of looking at that website to see they have links/promote far right - freaks. Tommy Robinson and some other weirdo I have never heard of but a quick google of him lead to info "has engaged online in rhetoric regarding Holocaust denial and antisemitism, anti-black racism, Islamophobia, homophobia and transphobia"

Good sciencing!
 
Quote from interview:

“Well, the f***ed-up thing is, if you talk about it, you’re an anti-vaxxer,” the podcast host continued. “They’ve done a really good job of demonizing anyone who questions a medicine that might be correlated with a bunch of f***ing serious diseases. They’ve done a great job of gaslighting people.”​

"Josh Brolin His Recent Bell’s Palsy Diagnosis Could Be Linked to mRNA Vaccine"

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Joe Rogan Tells Josh Brolin His Recent Bell’s Palsy Diagnosis Could Be Linked to mRNA Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

In a recent episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Hollywood actor Josh Brolin, shared his personal health scare involving a diagnosis of Bell’s palsy, which host Joe Rogan suggested might be linked to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
 
Please provide evidence that incidents of bell's palsy are higher now than before covid or shut the fuck up.
 
Muz said:
Please provide evidence that incidents of bell's palsy are higher now than before covid or shut the fuck up.
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As you requested:

"The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines ... potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, ... Bell's palsy, ... We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis."​
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"... Even in the Phase III clinical trials, Bell's palsy stood out, with seven cases appearing in the treatment arm as compared to only one in the placebo group ... "​
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Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs - PMC

The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here is some further evidence directly from a document published by Pfizer. This was meant to be a confidential document, but was exacted from Pfizer under the freedom of information court case.

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On the right hand side shows Page 16 of Pfizer's own report, where 3.3% of the side effects (PM dataset) related to cardiovascular issues, i.e. heart disease. Already, the MRNA vaccines relationship to heart issues is well established.

But in comparison, on the left side is page 19 of the Pfizer report which states that 1.07% of the side effects (PM dataset) related to facial paralysis (e.g. Bells Palsy). Hence, things like Bells Palsy were 1/3rd of the cardiovascular issues, but still significant nevertheless in Pfizer's own data.

Remember, Pfizer never wanted you to see this data - and Pfizer applied to the court to keep this data hidden for 75 years. But the court forced Pfizer to reveal it without delay.

Muz, you are the type of person, when Pfizer wants to keep damaging data hidden for 75 years, you are the type of loaf who sees nothing suspicious.

news.bloomberglaw.com

Why a Judge Ordered FDA to Release Covid-19 Vaccine Data Pronto

A group of scientists and medical researchers sued the FDA under FOIA to force release of hundreds of thousands of documents related to licensing of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine. Plaintiff’s attorney Aaron Siri, who is representing the group, explains the fight that led a federal court...
news.bloomberglaw.com news.bloomberglaw.com

Here is the link to the Pfizer document. Note in the appendix the vast number of side effects related to the Pfizer Covid MRNA vaccine. Search the document for various issues. For example, you'll see that under "stroke", the average latency from jab to stroke is 2 days. I know two people among my friends and relatives who had fatal strokes after 2 days from the jab.

 
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johnsmith said:
As you requested:

"The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines ... potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, ... Bell's palsy, ... We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis."​
​
"... Even in the Phase III clinical trials, Bell's palsy stood out, with seven cases appearing in the treatment arm as compared to only one in the placebo group ... "​
​

Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs - PMC

The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here is some further evidence directly from a document published by Pfizer. This was meant to be a confidential document, but was exacted from Pfizer under the freedom of information court case.

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On the right hand side shows Page 16 of Pfizer's own report, where 3.3% of the side effects (PM dataset) related to cardiovascular issues, i.e. heart disease. Already, the MRNA vaccines relationship to heart issues is well established.

But in comparison, on the left side is page 19 of the Pfizer report which states that 1.07% of the side effects (PM dataset) related to facial paralysis (e.g. Bells Palsy). Hence, things like Bells Palsy were 1/3rd of the cardiovascular issues, but still significant nevertheless in Pfizer's own data.

Remember, Pfizer never wanted you to see this data - and Pfizer applied to the court to keep this data hidden for 75 years. But the court forced Pfizer to reveal it without delay.

Muz, you are the type of person, when Pfizer wants to keep damaging data hidden for 75 years, you are the type of loaf who sees nothing suspicious.

news.bloomberglaw.com

Why a Judge Ordered FDA to Release Covid-19 Vaccine Data Pronto

A group of scientists and medical researchers sued the FDA under FOIA to force release of hundreds of thousands of documents related to licensing of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine. Plaintiff’s attorney Aaron Siri, who is representing the group, explains the fight that led a federal court...
news.bloomberglaw.com news.bloomberglaw.com

Here is the link to the Pfizer document. Note in the appendix the vast number of side effects related to the Pfizer Covid MRNA vaccine. Search the document for various issues. For example, you'll see that under "stroke", the average latency from jab to stroke is 2 days. I know two people among my friends and relatives who had fatal strokes after 2 days from the jab.

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remember this guy? ☺️

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seems to be a hell of a lot of smoke for no fire

Australians Stunned by Professor Dalgleish appearence Sky News: mRNA Vaccines Linked to Unbelievable Damage!

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"...from the very beginning, these vaccines were not vaccines, particularly the ones that ended up after AstraZeneca with all the clots and they were shut down. But the messenger RNA vaccines of Pfizer and Moderna have caused unbelievable problems and damage to people, and I don't think we will ever really be able to get over that!"

"They changed the mechanism of manufacturing between the trial and the roll out to about six billion people. This thing was full of contaminants. It was full of sequences that can actually get into your genome. And my big concern is that a lot of them explain why that couple of years into this epidemic, we still have massive excess deaths, excess deaths in Australia, New Zealand, and everywhere. And a lot of these now are due to cancer....The red flags are so enormous. Why has the government not banned these vaccines immediately? For a start, COVID doesn't exist anymore. And if it does, it doesn't kill anybody anymore. So why are you using vaccines, boosters that we now know increase the rate of cancer and the cancers are appalling, they're turbo cancers."

"These were horrible gene therapies that could actually integrate into your genome. And this is one of the reasons we're seeing this horrendous rise in turbo cancers. I'm terrified what they have done to our children."

"Now, I cannot believe the MHRA and the TGA and the FDA, the level of incompetence and negligence. And they have to be held. This is Nuremberg trial stuff! They are so awful. Now, we know about the contamination. Your TGA has stood up and said, "oh, we've done this little study, that study", what have you. "But it doesn't really matter, because they're safe and effective. They started the mandate that these vaccines were safe and effective".
No, they were never, ever effective. I've looked at the first submissions of Pfizer to the FDA. There was no evidence that they were effective whatsoever. It's basically hope. And they were never, ever safe.
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zimbos05 said:
"my science is more science than your science because my science only proves my point so it must be the only correct science"
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My science is based on Pfizer's own data - where I gave you the URL link to the document. This was the data Pfizer desperately tried to keep secret, but the Court forced it out of them using 'Freedom of Information' laws

Your science is based on what the morning TV breakfast talkshow host tells you.

Here's the link to the Pfizer document:


My friend zimbos05, you know how you hurl insults at "people just want to believe what they want to believe". You're proof that those types don't realise they're that type of person. Let me guess - you didn't review any of the scientific data I gave in my above post. For your types, anyone who goes against the 6 o'clock news and Current Affair TV is who you criticise. Sadly, about 70-95% of people are like you. They don't scrutinise data for themselves. They just trust the smart people like their lives, who themselves invariably trust the people up the chain.
 
johnsmith said:
My friend zimbos05, you know how you hurl insults at "people just want to believe what they want to believe". You're proof that those types don't realise they're that type of person. Let me guess - you didn't review any of the scientific data I gave in my above post. For your types, anyone who goes against the 6 o'clock news and Current Affair TV is who you criticise. Sadly, about 70-95% of people are like you. They don't scrutinise data for themselves. They just trust the smart people like their lives, who themselves invariably trust the people up the chain.
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You have a very different meaning of what an insult is. I can actually insult you if you want, but I don't really want to waste them. Just because someone might disagree with you, it is not an insult.

Telling someone they have confirmation bias is not an insult. It's just a statement.

My job for ten years was to scrutinise data. Even though it's no longer my job, I still do it, so don't make assumptions about me. It's ok to question things you watch or hear, by all means, do so, but you don't have to disagree for the sake of it.

All you've ever done on here is bring out one conspiracy after another. It's enough mate. Take it to the Qanon forum or something and keep it there.
 
Muz said:
Fucking Rowan Dean. Makes Malcolm Roberts look like a rocket scientist.
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True story. Was offered lots of cash to work for him years ago. Could tell these numpties a story or two who follow him.
 
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PSA: People keep reporting @johnsmith content as misinformation however I have 0 zero interest in determining fact from fiction in regards to this topic. Not interested in echo chambers either.
 
I suspect there’s probably some truth and some stuff that are taken out of context
 
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