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WhatAmIWatching said:
What???
For starters the AFL came into existence when the original VFL was going broke with 12 teams. Port Adelaide had dominated the SAFL so much that they wanted better competition and were set to join the VFL for a fee. SAFL got told and their bigotry crumbled (SA are very anti-Victorian) and paid a bigger fee. South Melbourne was sent packing to Sydney and the three state solution came into existence. WA not to be left out because they would not be able to compete salary wise joined a few years later and that crook Chris Skase stumped up to create the Brisbane Bears. For many years only Victoria had multiple teams. I was working in WA back then and there would be plane loads of interstaters flying in to watch matches against the Eagles. Even 8 years ago working in Adelaide getting hotel rooms during the AFL season was hard.
So there are plenty of supporters that make the trip to the 2 team states (all but Victoria). The last two teams created have been abysmal failures crowd wise but the deep pockets of the AFL keep them going.
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I meant more that Adelaide and WA AFL clubs have their own massive fanbases and any Victorians coming over are just icing on the cake...
 
Kitwally said:
Northern NSW have their own “federation” or whatever it’s called right? ACT is the other “state” and I’m assuming nobody cares about the Northern Territory?
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ACT & NT are not states. Their is a hint for you in their names.
 
HappyGuus said:
Sounds like APL can't do two things at once. They're waiting for Canberra and can't manage anything else.
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Puts on helmet.

I read crowds are up by 14% on the same time last year..... Ratings are also up and I am told by a lot as are subscriptions.

Also last year had crowds up 8% and almost doubled the ratings.

No major stuff ups over the last two years since the new management team is in place.

Actually APLs weekly show is reasonably quality.... Add they stopped making those crazy statements like we will be the biggest code within ten years.

Further, they started to sell the league as a development league and I think it's working.

Coupled with this is JJ, and IMO his astute management of FA, and getting major tournaments..... hopefully he can also help in getting Perry Park to a small stadium.

In summary, from being at deaths door, say three years ago at one minute to midnight... Football with current FA n APL management is heading north.

The Championship new competition is I think the start of something that if managed well can create a more Football environment.

Better imo for steady growth rather than boom bust over promise.
 
Midfielder said:
Puts on helmet.

I read crowds are up by 14% on the same time last year..... Ratings are also up and I am told by a lot as are subscriptions.

Also last year had crowds up 8% and almost doubled the ratings.

No major stuff ups over the last two years since the new management team is in place.

Actually APLs weekly show is reasonably quality.... Add they stopped making those crazy statements like we will be the biggest code within ten years.

Further, they started to sell the league as a development league and I think it's working.

Coupled with this is JJ, and IMO his astute management of FA, and getting major tournaments..... hopefully he can also help in getting Perry Park to a small stadium.

In summary, from being at deaths door, say three years ago at one minute to midnight... Football with current FA n APL management is heading north.

The Championship new competition is I think the start of something that if managed well can create a more Football environment.

Better imo for steady growth rather than boom bust over promise.
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Agree with all that, well said. I don't mean to contradict myself haha. But I was having a dig at the APL announcing getting to 16 clubs next season, and we haven't heard of any progress, zero. We've only just recently heard that Canberra is out again for next season, but only after being poked by a journalist!

Canberra is holding up the other clubs. Gone nowhere for two years and as far as we know the APL don't have a backup plan. I can only imagine that by now they are holding off for the next broadcast deal, and I hope they don't sell out to them again and we get another Macarthur. But I'm sure promises will be made to them around expansion.
 
I tend to think increases are the Not right description whatsoever.
It’s not new incremental increase per se it’s purely recovering some Lost business.
Be it crowds or viewership.
No need for your helmet Middy.
It’s just pure facts when youve lost a motza its takes a long time from when it was boom and bust for that is AL’s history in the first place.
 
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LFC said:
I tend to think increases are the Not right description whatsoever.
It’s not new incremental increase per se it’s purely recovering some Lost business.
Be it crowds or viewership.
No need for your helmet Middy.
It’s just pure facts when youve lost a motza its takes a long time from when it was boom and bust for that is AL’s history in the first place.
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The helmet was because if you say positive things it normally draws negative reactions.

Having said all this we are still a long way from were we want to be.

The increases imo are real maybe it's some people returning and getting back to old figures.

Interestingly if you take out WU n Cows figures from the attendance table the crowds are above 10k.

However I digress, my point is arguably for the first time I can remember we have decent management.

A long way from perfect not great, but equally not F....ing hopeless ..

Still many unanswered questions my biggest is what's or how does Silverlake treat the 130 million i.e. a loan or as equity.

But with all that said and coming off a very low base things are improving
 
As much as I'd like to see a CBR team, the league needs to start looking at other areas in the interim. We were supposed to be at 16 after next season.
 
Vieri said:
As much as I'd like to see a CBR team, the league needs to start looking at other areas in the interim. We were supposed to be at 16 after next season.
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It was 16 teams NEXT season, not the one after 👍🏻
And yeah, if they had more business sense then 15 and 16 would be good to go by now. Maybe they are ready, who knows? They certainly tell the fans nothing.
 
HappyGuus said:
It was 16 teams NEXT season, not the one after 👍🏻
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Ah yep, correct, before the end of their next TV deal.

HappyGuus said:
It was 16 teams NEXT season, not the one after 👍🏻
And yeah, if they had more business sense then 15 and 16 would be good to go by now. Maybe they are ready, who knows? They certainly tell the fans nothing.
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I doubt it. Can't help but wonder if they've sat on their hands a little with 15 and 16 off the back of the Championship.
 
Get a Singaporean team in. Closer ties to Asia and the ability to have another long distance derby. They could be enticed to have Darwin as a local base.
 
WhatAmIWatching said:
Get a Singaporean team in. Closer ties to Asia and the ability to have another long distance derby. They could be enticed to have Darwin as a local base.
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Two Aussie teams entered the S-League back in 1994. It was a disaster financially.

We don't need to look beyond our shores when we are yet to tap into SE Sydney, Sunshine Coast, Tasmania, Canberra etc.

Not to mention proper attempts into the GC and NQ/FNQ regions of Queensland.
 
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