erogenouszone
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Sydney with three red cards this season so far & eight last season.
There's a 'conspiracy theory' thread somewhere on this forum, feel free to develop your ideas further in there.
A-League Men 24/25 - Round 10
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There's a 'conspiracy theory' thread somewhere on this forum, feel free to develop your ideas further in there.
@NoMates was suggesting bias towards the Smurfs!
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Herrington is very new but I don't see any weaknesses in his game taking his age into account. Young players improve their duel winning quicker than any other facet of their game
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I can read. Evidence suggest the contrary and stamping a player with your studs is always going to be a red card anywhere in the world.
Getting ripped 3-0 by Sydney FC must have been quite distressing for the Victorian contingent on this forum. Here's some highlights for them to relive it.
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I think you could be right.
If Waddo had more service, he might score even more goals and be a candidate for Golden Boot.
I think Taggart is struggling with lack of service ATM at Glory.
What a shame for Scicluna.
Often after a game, the perpetrators will contact the injured player and apologise.
I find Waddingham to have a poor first touch quite often - which hurts when he gets so few chances the way we are playing. He frequently puts the ball too far away with his first touch and has to either rush his next play or loses the opportunity he was trying to setup.
Our performance was disjointed and completely lacking the fluidity we should have in the season by now.
O'Shea is becoming less effective with most aspects of his play - other than his vision and ability to read the game. Berenguer just does not provide the lift to the team that he should with his experience and role. He is not a bad player but he is also not the shining light we need there. Caletti performs a similar role when he is in the middle providing a basic passing link - which is not enough to create opportunities.
And yet, when you look at our chances against Western, with composed finishing, O'Shea (halfway shot), Jelacic (gently nudged the keepers hand) and Halloran (way over) all would have scored what we had set up individually or as a team. The finishers in other teams take those chances.
We are not playing well, but we are still mostly competitive. That is fine for the first games of the season but by now we should be showing teamwork and fluidity - where I see us actually going backwards with our cohesion.
It may be Zadkovich feeling the pinch and mixing up the team to try and fluke the combinations instead of sticking with his best group and letting them play into form. I know we have better play in us but confidence and disfunction are ruling the roost for now. Big question is how a manager breaks the cycle. Often it can't be done and we lose another manager, but sometimes jagging a win or two gets heads fixed on right. We seem to be sliding more than building based on this last game.
Admittedly, having been away for a month this is the first game I have watched and I struggled to stay awake through jetlag - but it was definitely a step backwards from the positives of the last game I watched in terms of quality team play.
Brazette and Herrington offer plenty. O'Shea still creates chances - although he is less capable of handling close pressure. Waddingham is a genuine striker who will score if given chances. Burke-Gilroy and Jelacic both add to the team. We are better than last place - but not the way we are playing. The table does not lie for us.
Van der Saag is a stumbling buffoon too often. He can do really good things defensively then be completely ineffectual next moment. Hingert was on a short time and chose to use that time to commit an agricultural hit instead of playing. There was frustration and payback in the play when we needed to be focussing on playing better and getting the goal back. Halloran seems lazy in his effort going in both directions - also choosing to hand out a bit of a hack instead of driving himself to make a difference. We are not performing like a professional outfit at the moment - just a bunch of players.
The penalty looked like bullshit to me. Thurgate simply lifted his legs and flew into his opponent. Sure, he touched the ball before contact but that was not a penalty in my eyes and I expected VAR to make the ref at least check it - but nothing doing. Thurgate did the same leg lift and drop later in the game too trying to milk a card and foul.
I saw the Thuggate more than the classy Thurgate this game - so with respect to those who see him differently I do not find his mindset up to national levels.
Looking forward to watching us play in person next game at Suncorp. Can read much more of the quality or lack thereof when you are at the ground taking the whole picture in.
Our performance was disjointed and completely lacking the fluidity we should have in the season by now.
O'Shea is becoming less effective with most aspects of his play - other than his vision and ability to read the game. Berenguer just does not provide the lift to the team that he should with his experience and role. He is not a bad player but he is also not the shining light we need there. Caletti performs a similar role when he is in the middle providing a basic passing link - which is not enough to create opportunities.
And yet, when you look at our chances against Western, with composed finishing, O'Shea (halfway shot), Jelacic (gently nudged the keepers hand) and Halloran (way over) all would have scored what we had set up individually or as a team. The finishers in other teams take those chances.
We are not playing well, but we are still mostly competitive. That is fine for the first games of the season but by now we should be showing teamwork and fluidity - where I see us actually going backwards with our cohesion.
It may be Zadkovich feeling the pinch and mixing up the team to try and fluke the combinations instead of sticking with his best group and letting them play into form. I know we have better play in us but confidence and disfunction are ruling the roost for now. Big question is how a manager breaks the cycle. Often it can't be done and we lose another manager, but sometimes jagging a win or two gets heads fixed on right. We seem to be sliding more than building based on this last game.
Admittedly, having been away for a month this is the first game I have watched and I struggled to stay awake through jetlag - but it was definitely a step backwards from the positives of the last game I watched in terms of quality team play.
Brazette and Herrington offer plenty. O'Shea still creates chances - although he is less capable of handling close pressure. Waddingham is a genuine striker who will score if given chances. Burke-Gilroy and Jelacic both add to the team. We are better than last place - but not the way we are playing. The table does not lie for us.
Van der Saag is a stumbling buffoon too often. He can do really good things defensively then be completely ineffectual next moment. Hingert was on a short time and chose to use that time to commit an agricultural hit instead of playing. There was frustration and payback in the play when we needed to be focussing on playing better and getting the goal back. Halloran seems lazy in his effort going in both directions - also choosing to hand out a bit of a hack instead of driving himself to make a difference. We are not performing like a professional outfit at the moment - just a bunch of players.
The penalty looked like bullshit to me. Thurgate simply lifted his legs and flew into his opponent. Sure, he touched the ball before contact but that was not a penalty in my eyes and I expected VAR to make the ref at least check it - but nothing doing. Thurgate did the same leg lift and drop later in the game too trying to milk a card and foul.
I saw the Thuggate more than the classy Thurgate this game - so with respect to those who see him differently I do not find his mindset up to national levels.
Looking forward to watching us play in person next game at Suncorp. Can read much more of the quality or lack thereof when you are at the ground taking the whole picture in.
Often taking the first touch away, as opposed to stopping it dead, takes the ball away from the marker.
To first touch it dead, can be required when having more than one defenders sitting tight on a target striker. It involves holding the ball up and passing it on.
It can be a question of when to execute which type of first touch, before a player receives the ball.
Was Jelacic taken off early?
Highly rate him. Missed his play.
Is Burke- Gilroy the speedy winger? I like the way he runs with the ball.
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Im a Nix supporter, however as a casual watcher of the game it really sucked that it was 11 v 10. I felt the game was already won after the red carding. It killed the moment for me in what would have been a top match otherwise win or lose from either side.
Unders
I like Waddingham and what he does but I see a bit too much of Dylan Wenzel-Halls in his first touch at times.
Edit: When I say often I meant he does it a couple of times every game rather than often in any one game. It is not something that happens every time by any means.
Understood and agreed on moving the ball into space with your first touch - and he does do things like that. But when you watch him carefully you see that his first touch often puts the ball into contested territory instead of space and he is on the back foot trying to get to it rather than already moving where the ball went - suggesting it did not go where he wanted it to.
I like Waddingham and what he does but I see a bit too much of Dylan Wenzel-Halls in his first touch at times.
Edit: When I say often I meant he does it a couple of times every game rather than often in any one game. It is not something that happens every time by any means.
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Burke-Gilroy is the speedy left fullback/winger with the braided hair. Works equally well coming forward, defending back, or chasing a turnover.
Brazette is the speedy, short winger/left forward with a shock of dark hair. Skilled feet and willing to take players on.
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I haven't payed too close attention but what is the passing quality to him like? I mean if I had to pass the ball to Messi, I would make Messi look very ordinary.
Balls delivered at speed seem to be the main problem - but they are not necessarily short nasty passes. I am counting the ones that come straight to him as they should and he puts a cement boot out and they bounce off 2-3 metres towards an opponent sort of situations.
The passing to Waddingham is abysmal in general - not done much at all rather than the passes being bad - so stuffing up one or two decent chances out of a small number of opportunities might make his touch look worse.
The passing to Waddingham is abysmal in general - not done much at all rather than the passes being bad - so stuffing up one or two decent chances out of a small number of opportunities might make his touch look worse.
Messi has spoken highly of you every time I have talked to him
If you think Waddingham's touch is iffy you should watch Alou Kuol.One of his team mates said that his second touch was a tackle
I was a neutral who wanted 11 v 11 too.
Amazing Kosta goal for Nix from distance in the first few mins of the game v Jets!
I've seen Waddo have plenty of excellent touches, but haven't watched everything he does for an entire game like scouts do when they compile scouting reports.