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What's happening with that Canberra bid say they want a team but never come with the goods ?
 
someguyjc said:
It's also why we are now seeing players hitting form at that 25-27 age at which point the good overseas opportunities are pretty much gone. The frustrating thing is those are the players that managed to stick at it. How many countless young players have been chewed up and spat out by AL clubs before they hit 25.
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yep and yep.

Then we have like MSC would know if you frequent NPL and even just below Prem League.
One the lack of high end spots and lets face it not every kid they have in their ranks are best of its still alot of who you know and those who can afford paying into their academies therefore plenty promising players end up below.
Its a terrible viscious cycle how many players fall down the rabbit hole that could have been better than many they have in their ranks.
The political mine field at NPL even burns so many young ones opt out hence why Prem league I see is NPL 2/3 levels.

The whole system is a bottle neck !

Villa D, thats another political minefield, plenty info about it, nothing like annoucements to keep people interested nothing new there.
Someone can find the info.
 
zimbos05 said:
Not really sure how a NST automatically means we sign more international transfers. FA have built the sport very much as a business. Investors are not willing to invest in a club if they are playing in the 2nd Division. Football has become very much about ROI. I agree with the core concepts of a value of a 2nd division, but we need to take this in in the landscape of Australian football.


There is actually quite a fair bit of opportunity. The problem is that the pathway programme is often abused. I agree, you need to promote the existing clubs. The FA is trying very hard however to ensure we never go back to old NSL days. The Broncos get much bigger crowds at Suncorp, but I guarantee you that The Den is watched more fervently. Granted they do some things that don't help the reputation, but the tribalism in football is much deeper and that scares Australian police and stadiums. They would much rather deal with drunks and vapers, than have to deal with flares and a bouncing crowd for 90 minutes.

We can't just expand for expansions sake. You really need to have the correct framework to do so. From a Queensland perspective, I have no faith in FQ that they are on the right track to do this.
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I wouldn't have faith in FQ to prepare breakfast for me.
 
correct let them stick by their DNA of made up clubs, leave established clubs alone..

Too funny re FQ K66.
 
someguyjc said:
It doesn't automatically result in more international transfers, but it does create an environment in which 200+ more players are on professional contracts at a younger age. That means if/when they sign to an A-League club they are already acclimatised to life as a professional football player and should have better chances of actually getting minutes on the pitch. That gives a far better opportunity for players to get overseas sooner. Right now it's taking far too long for players to hit the type of form that opens up those doors overseas.
As for opportunities in the A-League, it's very difficult to call a bench spot an opportunity. I don't blame the AL clubs either, these young players aren't ready, so they end up spending 2-3 years on the bench. If however they were spending that couple of years actually on the pitch at an NST club they would have better chances slotting into a starting lineup of an AL club.
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This is not exactly how it works. It's not some perfect utopia where all of a sudden NSL clubs become professional. A lot of players get paid at NPL level and are on contracts. They train like they are a professional club and play that often. The sad reality is that the money does not justify them quitting their day jobs or their side hustles.

The money will not just magically appear. A lot of our A-league W players still have to work a 2nd job and this is the top tier of the Womens game. The moment you throw more cash into a 2nd Tier mens game you create a massive issue win equity and inequality.

Getting players overseas is due to a few factors. Development of talent, and the pathways for that talent. Closing the AIS was a massive mistake.
 
zimbos05 said:
This is not exactly how it works. It's not some perfect utopia where all of a sudden NSL clubs become professional. A lot of players get paid at NPL level and are on contracts. They train like they are a professional club and play that often. The sad reality is that the money does not justify them quitting their day jobs or their side hustles.

The money will not just magically appear. A lot of our A-league W players still have to work a 2nd job and this is the top tier of the Womens game. The moment you throw more cash into a 2nd Tier mens game you create a massive issue win equity and inequality.

Getting players overseas is due to a few factors. Development of talent, and the pathways for that talent. Closing the AIS was a massive mistake.
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I believe there are a sizable number of NPL players on contracts worth more than A League squaddies. There might be more than one reason they're not moving into the A League.
 
Muz said:
I believe there are a sizable number of NPL players on contracts worth more than A League squaddies. There might be more than one reason they're not moving into the A League.
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There's also been more than one false dawn.

Pezos, Bulloch, Saric, Aoyama just examples of players who've tried to step up but just couldn't for my club.
 
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