General 2024/5 A League Men's thread

[WhatAmIWatching]

The alleged trade off is that to max the socceroos you need to have clubs develop youth and play and sell a lot of them. In terms of fraction of minutes given to youth we actually aren't remarkable, similar to the eredivisie,jupiler league and old nsl

I suspect that there is a natural limit to the amount of minutes that you can give young players. Too many young players without experienced leadership on the pitch will limit their growth - although MC would prove the exception to that this season.
I think that clubs that invest on the physical and human infrastructure so that talent can be identified earlier and trained accordingly will have a conveyor belt production line. The complementary item is to have quality experienced players on the field to ensure that their confidence is enhanced.

 

[AliG040803]

I am not sure that there is a trade off. The more success the Socceroos are the more exposure Australian talent gets which benefits the AL because they don't have to do marketing, that is, the Socceroos are the marketing and advertising of the AL.

As far as transfer fees, a lot of clubs (if not most) have a lot of accumulated red ink. I suspect that most if not all of the transfer money will go towards plugging that hole. Let's not forget that PG, NJ, and maybe one other have been under PFA administration recently. And right now MVC are not in the healthiest position.

Well run clubs like AU, SFC will use that money to improve their physical and human infrastructure.

Finally, clubs have the option of including two players outside the salary cap, so no concession needed. The danger of relaxing the salary cap for clubs that are getting revenue from transfers is that the AL could become like the Scottish league, two clubs that win everything every year and the rest wither.

As much as it sounds bad I almost feel like the league would be more likely to expand if there were so called "big clubs", I'd imagine once the domestic transfer system is brought in that will happen naturally, clubs like Melbourne City and Victory, as well as both of the Sydney teams will be able to throw around fees because of richer ownership.

The benefit of giving extra budget or cap space to clubs that make more profit through sales is that they don't necessarily have to use it, it's just an added incentive for signing longer deals for youth players and actually playing then in order to maximize profits when selling to European clubs.

 

[WhatAmIWatching]

As much as it sounds bad I almost feel like the league would be more likely to expand if there were so called "big clubs", I'd imagine once the domestic transfer system is brought in that will happen naturally, clubs like Melbourne City and Victory, as well as both of the Sydney teams will be able to throw around fees because of richer ownership.

The benefit of giving extra budget or cap space to clubs that make more profit through sales is that they don't necessarily have to use it, it's just an added incentive for signing longer deals for youth players and actually playing then in order to maximize profits when selling to European clubs.

The problem with the big club phenomenon is that you could end up like the Scottish League - just two big clubs and then dire daylight. In a sense that what is happening to the European leagues and why they wanted to establish a separate super league. The major difference is that the in Scotland or Europe they don't have alternative big sports like AFL & NRL. The MLS model is closer to what we have in Oz and perhaps that is something that the PFA should be looking at.
Personally, I feel that if the PFA could become something bigger by actually owning suitable stadiums across the country. This will provide football only pitches that the AL and NPL teams could use as well as relive the pressure on clubs to actually cough up a load of cash for almost empty stadiums.
As for expansion, I think that about 14 teams will suffice in the current environment.

 

[grazorblade]

As much as it sounds bad I almost feel like the league would be more likely to expand if there were so called "big clubs", I'd imagine once the domestic transfer system is brought in that will happen naturally, clubs like Melbourne City and Victory, as well as both of the Sydney teams will be able to throw around fees because of richer ownership.

The benefit of giving extra budget or cap space to clubs that make more profit through sales is that they don't necessarily have to use it, it's just an added incentive for signing longer deals for youth players and actually playing then in order to maximize profits when selling to European clubs.

I advocate a luxury tax - in leagues with a luxury tax there is a different winner every year. You can buy your way out of a wooden spook buy u can't buy your way to a premiership

But u can also have clubs grow as much as they want which over time will mean a better league. Importantly it is compatible with developing players since it is more flexible than a salary cap

The idea of a salary cap concession for a transfer fee is an interesting idea. It would mean that even if the tv revenue came back clubs wouldn't just go back to stacking their squad with journeymen

 

[erogenouszone]

Apparently this is a thing. Archie, Thomas Sorensen and Ed Kavalee. Pretty good.