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The Australian Championship Thread

Did I read somewhere that JJ's contract is up for renewal next month?
 
EXACTLY RIGHT Mid... so you wanna wonder why it was set up to fail right?
You also gotta wonder why they continue calling it the National Second Tier. It's simply not a tier.
I don't think it will fail (well not exactly), but there is no way it will capture the same level of attention that a proper league would have. Other than a couple of good matchups, I can't see any game pulling much more crowd than the regular NPL games.

Anything that can't be explained in a sentence is always going to be a hard sell.
How it should be:
Person A: "What's the Australian Championship?"
Person B: "It's the second tier league of football in Australia, similar to the EPL and EFL Championship in England, only without P&R"
Person A: "ok, that makes sense, shame about the lack of P&R"

How it will be:
Person A: "What's the Australian Championship?"
Person B: "It's a cup competition involving 8 pre qualified clubs and the 8 winners of the state league NPLs, played in Spring after the NPL comps end."
Person A: "Why are there 8 clubs already pre-qualified?"
Person B: "They are paying to be pre-qualified."
Person A: "That doesn't seem fair, can other clubs pay to qualify?"
Person B: "Not really. Maybe. Sort of. They would need to go through a lengthy process which still may be rejected."
Person A: "Will the pre-qualified clubs still be competing in their NPLs?"
Person B: "Yes."
Person A: "What if they win their NPL?"
Person B: "I assume they will use the runners up"
Person A: "Why are the 8 clubs paying to qualify? Why wouldn't they just try and win their league?"
Person B: "Short answer. They ordered a burger with the lot with chips & a coke, but were given a salad sandwich."
 
You also gotta wonder why they continue calling it the National Second Tier. It's simply not a tier.
I don't think it will fail (well not exactly), but there is no way it will capture the same level of attention that a proper league would have. Other than a couple of good matchups, I can't see any game pulling much more crowd than the regular NPL games.

Anything that can't be explained in a sentence is always going to be a hard sell.
How it should be:
Person A: "What's the Australian Championship?"
Person B: "It's the second tier league of football in Australia, similar to the EPL and EFL Championship in England, only without P&R"
Person A: "ok, that makes sense, shame about the lack of P&R"

How it will be:
Person A: "What's the Australian Championship?"
Person B: "It's a cup competition involving 8 pre qualified clubs and the 8 winners of the state league NPLs, played in Spring after the NPL comps end."
Person A: "Why are there 8 clubs already pre-qualified?"
Person B: "They are paying to be pre-qualified."
Person A: "That doesn't seem fair, can other clubs pay to qualify?"
Person B: "Not really. Maybe. Sort of. They would need to go through a lengthy process which still may be rejected."
Person A: "Will the pre-qualified clubs still be competing in their NPLs?"
Person B: "Yes."
Person A: "What if they win their NPL?"
Person B: "I assume they will use the runners up"
Person A: "Why are the 8 clubs paying to qualify? Why wouldn't they just try and win their league?"
Person B: "Short answer. They ordered a burger with the lot with chips & a coke, but were given a salad sandwich."
last point is a damn good one... So if South, Avondale or Preston finish top of NPL VIC next year do we (they) get our 500k funds released and we get paid back the application fees and license fee we have already paid to that Saudi backed arsehat JJ?
 
You also gotta wonder why they continue calling it the National Second Tier. It's simply not a tier.
I don't think it will fail (well not exactly), but there is no way it will capture the same level of attention that a proper league would have. Other than a couple of good matchups, I can't see any game pulling much more crowd than the regular NPL games.

Anything that can't be explained in a sentence is always going to be a hard sell.
How it should be:
Person A: "What's the Australian Championship?"
Person B: "It's the second tier league of football in Australia, similar to the EPL and EFL Championship in England, only without P&R"
Person A: "ok, that makes sense, shame about the lack of P&R"

How it will be:
Person A: "What's the Australian Championship?"
Person B: "It's a cup competition involving 8 pre qualified clubs and the 8 winners of the state league NPLs, played in Spring after the NPL comps end."
Person A: "Why are there 8 clubs already pre-qualified?"
Person B: "They are paying to be pre-qualified."
Person A: "That doesn't seem fair, can other clubs pay to qualify?"
Person B: "Not really. Maybe. Sort of. They would need to go through a lengthy process which still may be rejected."
Person A: "Will the pre-qualified clubs still be competing in their NPLs?"
Person B: "Yes."
Person A: "What if they win their NPL?"
Person B: "I assume they will use the runners up"
Person A: "Why are the 8 clubs paying to qualify? Why wouldn't they just try and win their league?"
Person B: "Short answer. They ordered a burger with the lot with chips & a coke, but were given a salad sandwich."
Sounds like Clarke and Dawe!
 
I completely understand the sentiment of disappointment. However, I look at trying to get agreement on a way forward with all parties as akin to trying to get an energy policy in Australia that everyone agrees on. Whatever is done - no-one is happy.

I'm hoping (probably naively) that this is just a stepping stone and that in the not too distant future we have a 16 team ALM, a 16 team NST and pro/rel between all levels.

I would definitely have preferred a full home and away for the NST from the get go. However, I did not like that the 8 teams were only from NSW and Vic. I think for a NST you need more than 2 states. So I, like many, disagree with what was implemented, and with what was proposed.
 
I completely understand the sentiment of disappointment. However, I look at trying to get agreement on a way forward with all parties as akin to trying to get an energy policy in Australia that everyone agrees on. Whatever is done - no-one is happy.

I'm hoping (probably naively) that this is just a stepping stone and that in the not too distant future we have a 16 team ALM, a 16 team NST and pro/rel between all levels.

I would definitely have preferred a full home and away for the NST from the get go. However, I did not like that the 8 teams were only from NSW and Vic. I think for a NST you need more than 2 states. So I, like many, disagree with what was implemented, and with what was proposed.
What’s the old saying…..damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
 
I completely understand the sentiment of disappointment. However, I look at trying to get agreement on a way forward with all parties as akin to trying to get an energy policy in Australia that everyone agrees on. Whatever is done - no-one is happy.

I'm hoping (probably naively) that this is just a stepping stone and that in the not too distant future we have a 16 team ALM, a 16 team NST and pro/rel between all levels.

I would definitely have preferred a full home and away for the NST from the get go. However, I did not like that the 8 teams were only from NSW and Vic. I think for a NST you need more than 2 states. So I, like many, disagree with what was implemented, and with what was proposed.
Sounds like a stepping stone, not sustainable for years on end. It's a start.
 
We know we can't change the way they think at FA, but a start is good, as indicated by South recently.
I also want full H & A seasons.
I hate the way FA/APL drip feed the football community with regard to any progress.
Sure mate, a start, any start, is good but this conferenced super league rubbish is just a bullshit attempt by FA to NOT have to pay back the "foundation 8" whilst still doing the bidding of the APL .... watch they'll end up stuffing it up completely and then folding their hands smugly and saying ... "well, we tried"

Think about the 4 champions league conferences for a moment.... South will (in the interest in saving costs) be pitted against Preston .. so in 2025 we will play the "old enemy" 4 times, possibly 2-3 more depending on NPL finals and Australia cup draw, when previously we hadn't faced them in a decade..... why, you ask?

Well in this years Australia cup they drew 6.5k to BT Connor and somebody in FA gimp land got a chubby at all the moolah they can make... 6.5k in one game? Imagine how that reflects x6 they cry... lets get some derbies cooking folks..... AAARRRRGGGGHHH I hate this whole thing WHY CANT WE EVER HAVE PROPER FOOTBALL in this country. Doesnt ANYONE else want this?
 
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