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u23 team of the season

 
I was going to say it is good evidence of the importance of underage teams. But AU don't really have an academy either do they?
Just U20s I think:

Adelaide United Youth Team
Where an Adelaide United Youth Team (AUFC) participates in the Senior Men’s competition the following
requirements will be applied:
(1) AUFC will be required to field a Senior and Reserve Squad in the Football SA Competition.
(2) AUFC is permitted to name a maximum of 36 players based on the following criteria. The Player
must be:
a. Aged 20 years of age or under as of the 31 December of that year.
b. An Australian Player as defined by the A-League (AL) and National Youth League (NYL)
Player Contract Regulations, specifically Clause 5 for both amateur and Contracted NYL
Players and AL Players; and
c. AL Players, Contracted NYL Players, or Amateur NYL Players.
(3) In addition to the 36 players outlined in sub-clause 2, AUFC may seek approval from Football SA, in
its sole and absolute discretion, to register up to six (6) Players to their senior NPL Player Roster
who are older than the eligible youth age bracket prescribed at sub-clause (2)(a) where the
following criteria are satisfied in respect of that Player:
a. The Player must be an Australian Player as defined by A-League contract regulations and
b. The Player must be aged between 21 and 23 years of age as of 31 December of that year.
c. The Player must have appeared in the starting eleven (11) in no more than ten (10)
matches during the most recent A-League season for any A-League Club; and
d. The Player is currently Professionally Contracted to the A-League Club.
(4) Of the six (6) overage players, only three (3) overage players may be listed on a team sheet on
any given round for the first team.
(5) Overage players are not permitted to participate in the Reserve Grade.
(6) Goalkeepers up to the age of 23 will not be considered as an overage player.
(7) Adelaide United will be required to name and submit their player roster to Football SA on an
annual basis by the date specified by Football SA.
(8) In addition to the players named on the Players Roster, Adelaide United are permitted to use the
players that are registered in the National Training Centre (NTC) Team to play in their Reserve or
First Team. The NTC players and eligible Adelaide United FC players will be dual registered with
both the NTC and Adelaide United. Free movement of players between the Adelaide United
teams and NTC Team will be permitted, if age eligible.
(9) AUFC may request, in writing, an alteration to their submitted roster, based on injury or other
exceptional circumstances. Any decision is at the sole and absolute discretion of the Football SA.
(10) All players must be registered in the National Registration System in accordance with clause 60 of
the Football SA Competition Rules and Regulations.
(11) If the AUFC Youth Team is crowned League Premiers, the team is not eligible to represent South
Australia in the Football Australia National Premier League Finals Series. The qualifier will be the
second placed team.
(12) AUFC Youth Team is eligible to participate in a final series that is conducted by Football SA in the
competition in accordance with rule 19.(4) of these regulations.
(13) AUFC Youth Team is eligible to be promoted and/or relegated from any competition in which it
participates.
(14) AUFC will not be eligible to receive prize money.
 
Just U20s I think:

Adelaide United Youth Team
Where an Adelaide United Youth Team (AUFC) participates in the Senior Men’s competition the following
requirements will be applied:
(1) AUFC will be required to field a Senior and Reserve Squad in the Football SA Competition.
(2) AUFC is permitted to name a maximum of 36 players based on the following criteria. The Player
must be:
a. Aged 20 years of age or under as of the 31 December of that year.
b. An Australian Player as defined by the A-League (AL) and National Youth League (NYL)
Player Contract Regulations, specifically Clause 5 for both amateur and Contracted NYL
Players and AL Players; and
c. AL Players, Contracted NYL Players, or Amateur NYL Players.
(3) In addition to the 36 players outlined in sub-clause 2, AUFC may seek approval from Football SA, in
its sole and absolute discretion, to register up to six (6) Players to their senior NPL Player Roster
who are older than the eligible youth age bracket prescribed at sub-clause (2)(a) where the
following criteria are satisfied in respect of that Player:
a. The Player must be an Australian Player as defined by A-League contract regulations and
b. The Player must be aged between 21 and 23 years of age as of 31 December of that year.
c. The Player must have appeared in the starting eleven (11) in no more than ten (10)
matches during the most recent A-League season for any A-League Club; and
d. The Player is currently Professionally Contracted to the A-League Club.
(4) Of the six (6) overage players, only three (3) overage players may be listed on a team sheet on
any given round for the first team.
(5) Overage players are not permitted to participate in the Reserve Grade.
(6) Goalkeepers up to the age of 23 will not be considered as an overage player.
(7) Adelaide United will be required to name and submit their player roster to Football SA on an
annual basis by the date specified by Football SA.
(8) In addition to the players named on the Players Roster, Adelaide United are permitted to use the
players that are registered in the National Training Centre (NTC) Team to play in their Reserve or
First Team. The NTC players and eligible Adelaide United FC players will be dual registered with
both the NTC and Adelaide United. Free movement of players between the Adelaide United
teams and NTC Team will be permitted, if age eligible.
(9) AUFC may request, in writing, an alteration to their submitted roster, based on injury or other
exceptional circumstances. Any decision is at the sole and absolute discretion of the Football SA.
(10) All players must be registered in the National Registration System in accordance with clause 60 of
the Football SA Competition Rules and Regulations.
(11) If the AUFC Youth Team is crowned League Premiers, the team is not eligible to represent South
Australia in the Football Australia National Premier League Finals Series. The qualifier will be the
second placed team.
(12) AUFC Youth Team is eligible to participate in a final series that is conducted by Football SA in the
competition in accordance with rule 19.(4) of these regulations.
(13) AUFC Youth Team is eligible to be promoted and/or relegated from any competition in which it
participates.
(14) AUFC will not be eligible to receive prize money.
As bad as it is that AUFC do not have an academy, it is handy for my sake that they do so I can separate the effects of the ntc from the a league academy system. They are a good case study that seems to provide evidence that the ntc is the main reason behind improvement. The uptick in youth is particularly notable since it is coming at a time we don't have an ais or a nyl. Bring those back and it would be really interesting to see where we land
 
This week's team of the season in. Valadon (u22) and Teague (u23) are unstoppable. It is interesting comparing with our euroroos at the same age. Stars indicate they played less than 20 games (so stats are likely to be skewed)
Playeru22 ratingu23 rating
Valadon7.6*
Teague7.27.6*
O'Niell6.8*7.2*
Metcalf7.37.3
Genreau7.2N/A
Balard7.07.1

It is also worth looking at right backs since this is a positional weakness for the roos

Playeru22 ratingu23 rating
Adamson7.35*
Strain6.86.5
Miller7.1N/A
Atkinson7.4*7.1*
Early days for Adamson yet but he is showing promise. However, he isn't in uncharted waters. Teague and Valadon, if they can keep it up, could break new ground for our central mids
 
I'd feel much better if we had 3-4 keeley adamsons. Since Simmons lost his place I believe he is the only young rb starting!
 
As bad as it is that AUFC do not have an academy, it is handy for my sake that they do so I can separate the effects of the ntc from the a league academy system. They are a good case study that seems to provide evidence that the ntc is the main reason behind improvement. The uptick in youth is particularly notable since it is coming at a time we don't have an ais or a nyl. Bring those back and it would be really interesting to see where we land

Found this article with more info about what the Reds do. Looks like they scout for the best talent down to U9s, then have them for two trainings per week up to U14s. Not sure if this is a new system that can take credit for the current youth success.

 
Found this article with more info about what the Reds do. Looks like they scout for the best talent down to U9s, then have them for two trainings per week up to U14s. Not sure if this is a new system that can take credit for the current youth success.

sounds kinda clairefontaine style. Victory do something similar for those younger than 13 i believe?
 
not a single player changed this week (Dukuly doesn't make it because I now have a 3 game cutoff)
so the team of the season is starting to stabalize
Beach's howler means he drops below 7
 
Found this article with more info about what the Reds do. Looks like they scout for the best talent down to U9s, then have them for two trainings per week up to U14s. Not sure if this is a new system that can take credit for the current youth success.

This is a new system
 
couple of changes in this weeks team of the season with a few payers having poor games and scicluna being impossible to leave out

couple more 2004 debutants. Should see rapid improvement in the a league over the next few seasons as players that young tend to improve quickly and there are 94 young players getting game time in the league. Should see a bottlenecking soon with players no where to go unless there is expansion
 
Are the young players improving the league as well as generating transfer revenue and future socceroos?


I did a quick check and 25 from 85 u23s getting enough game time to rate, have a fotmob score in the top half of A league players. Let's compare to the best development league in the world - the Jupiler league. They have 84 rated players from a larger pool of teams. However, only 41 of those players are below the average fotmob score compared to 43 above average. This suggests that Jupiler league youth are on average just as good as the league whereas a league youth are on average a fraction worse than the league.

A couple of notes of caution though before reading too much into this. Youth scores do improve over the season and the Jupiler has been going for 20 games, so that will make a difference. Also our youth skew slightly younger with most youth being 2004 born rather than 2002 born as you would expect.

Another benchmark league is the SPFL which has 12 scottish teams compared to our 11 oz based teams. They have 35 u23s that have played enough time to get rated - it seems a hard place for youth to get minutes. 20 have a fotmob score below average and 15 above. Triantis is the 4th best u23 player in the league.

So I'm pretty happy with the quantity of youth, the quality could improve slightly relative to the league though. I would expect that to happen automatically in the next couple of seasons as those born 2004 and later start to mature. It should also be slightly better at the back end of the season, we aren't really comparing like with like as the euro leagues have been going for 20 games.
 
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Full list of youngsters with game time so far

Adams (2002, 7.06)
Bonetig (2002, 6.95)
Botic (2002, 7.22)
Courtney Perkins (2002,6.92)
Holliday (2002,NA)
Jelacic (2002,6.97)
Kurcharski (2002, 6.89)
Natta (2002 6.46)
Ostler (2002,6.39)
Politidis (2002,6.77)
Popovic (2002,6.50)
Ruhs (2002, 6.23)
Sapsford (2002,6.94)
Steele (2002,6.78)
Teague (2002, 7.32)
Wood (2002, 6.86)
Adamson (2003,7.44)
Alagich (2003, 7.28)
Beach (2003, 6.90)
Drew (2003,7.38)
Duarte (2003,6.09)
Dukuly (2003, 7.02)
Gibson (2003, 7.02)
Grimaldi (2003,6.39)
Hammond (2003,6.42)
C Hollman (2003, 6.52)
Jones (2003, 7.21)
Lauton (2003,6.24)
Paull (2003, 6.66)
Pantazopolous (2003,6.42)
Priestman (2003,6.81)
Reec (2003,6.12)
Simmons (2003, NA)
Valadon (2003, 7.47)
Vidackovic (2003,5.59)
Anasmo (2004,5.90)
N Blair (2004 6.04)
Bernando (2004, 6.41)
Bos (2004,7.37)
Bozonovski (2004,6.91)
Goodwin (2004,6.88)
Herrington (2004,6.02)
Klein (2004,6.39)
Madanha (2004,6.24)
Matthews (2004, 6.76)
Majekodoumi (2004,4.82)
Ozzi (2004,NA)
Piol (2004,6.74)
Rawlins (2004,6.56)
Scicluna (2004, 7.55)
Scarcella (2004, 6.53)
Segecic (2004,6.96)
Shamoon (2004,6.89)
Taylor (2004,6.67)
Vidic (2004,5.95)
Vidmar (2004,6.78)
Walatee (2004,6.65)
R White (2004,5.98)
Brandtman (2005,6.47)
Bugariga (2005,6.40)
Damevski (2005,6.28)
Deli (2005, 6.39)
Faisal (2005,6.21)
Freney (2005,NA)
Jovanovic (2005,6,80)
Kikianis (2005,6.89)
Lavale (2005, 5.90)
Lisollajski (2005,6.49)
Mazzeo (2005,6.40)
Najdovski (2005,6.51)
Shreiber (2005, 6.65)
Sulemani (2005, 5.96)
Waddingham (2005,6.78)
Yull (2005,6.76)
Amanatidis (2006,6.40)
Bosnjak (2006,6.33)
Brazete (2006,6.64)
Dunbar (2006, 6.72)
Lebib (2006,5.87)
Ngo (2006,6.06)
Peraic Cullen (2006, 6.38)
Randazzo (2006,6.97)
Quintal (2006, 6.43)
Rahmani (2006,5.98)
Dobson (2007,NA)
Herrington (2007, 6.72)
Leonard (2007, 7.11)
Memeti (2007, 6.89)
Eames (2008, 6.46)
Macnicol (2007, 5.86)

Total from each year:
2002 -16
2003 - 19
2004 - 23
2005 - 16
2006 - 10
2007 - 4
2008 - 2

Others returning from injury
Caputo (2005)
Di Pizio (2006)
Brilliant!
 
2 more debuts so the total count so far is

2002 -16
2003 - 19
2004 - 23
2005 - 16
2006 - 10
2007 - 5
2008 - 2

still expecting to see the return of dipizio and caputo at some stage
 
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