A-league attendances 24/25

[LFC]

Good ol Archie Gemmill times.
Top player remember him well.
I still luv the English game since before then to date.

They were also Hakoah Eastern Suburbs once as well robbos if my memory serves well.
MSC they are east Sydney based - more so the area where your mate Sutho resides.
Don’t know if robbos resided those areas way back then compared to where I know his location today.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Curious why you connected with sfc?

So am I.....

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

You mean Hakoah Sydney City, no I'm not Jewish.
To follow a club it had to resonate with you.
I could still give you the Derby lineup that won the Division 1 in the 1974/75 season, it was in the blood, maybe I was eurosnob then, but no club captured my attention locally until Sydney FC and have been member since day 1.

Gottcha, you basically ignored everything I said.. OK Robbos... no worries mate. all good. Glad you found something that "resonates"

 

[JohnKasich]

You don't appear to like any Australian football at all so your discussion of attendances is a moot point. Unless you can let us all know how much you support the local game at a NPL or lower level.

I attend every Perth glory home game, I am the official water-boy for my local NPL side, and I coach the girls U17’s on Wednesday nights.

Your turn?

 

[Sutherlandbear]

Good ol Archie Gemmill times.
Top player remember him well.
I still luv the English game since before then to date.

They were also Hakoah Eastern Suburbs once as well robbos if my memory serves well.
MSC they are east Sydney based - more so the area where your mate Sutho resides.
Don’t know if robbos resided those areas way back then compared to where I know his location today.

Sydney city payed out the ES Marks field at Moore Park, and before that at Wentworth park. Up until Mr Lowy took them out of the NSL, they were the powerhouses of the league. They had many great players at this time, including, John Kosmina, the late Joe Watson, David Mitchell, Frank Farina, and of course the late ,great Eddie Thomson in charge. The biggest problem they had was a complete lack of crowds, despite the success.

Oh and Mono, they also had a great player of Greek descent, Jimmy Patikas.

 

[Robbos]

Good ol Archie Gemmill times.
Top player remember him well.
I still luv the English game since before then to date.

They were also Hakoah Eastern Suburbs once as well robbos if my memory serves well.
MSC they are east Sydney based - more so the area where your mate Sutho resides.
Don’t know if robbos resided those areas way back then compared to where I know his location today.

Exactly LFC, I lived north of Hornsby and the city was a long way away for a young kid.
My dear old dad, who woke me up every morning in 1974 to watch the Socceroos games in the World cup and used to let me stay up for FA cup finals and told me exploits of Eusebio in Portugal world cup in 1966 and for Benfica was the reason I fell in love with the world game,
Archie Gemmill, Johan Cruyff and Atti Aboni were my heroes together with Eusebio.
My dad never got into Cricket or Rugby but also despite his love for football, never followed an Australian football team.
I loved Cricket and Rugby League back then, still follow cricket and loved my Shoot magazines.
Hope this helps Mono.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Sydney city payed out the ES Marks field at Moore Park, and before that at Wentworth park. Up until Mr Lowy took them out of the NSL, they were the powerhouses of the league. They had many great players at this time, including, John Kosmina, the late Joe Watson, David Mitchell, Frank Farina, and of course the late ,great Eddie Thomson in charge. The biggest problem they had was a complete lack of crowds, despite the success.

Oh and Mono, they also had a great player of Greek descent, Jimmy Patikas.

Thanks for the history lesson Sutho, highlights my question I suppose WHY did they have a lack of crowds? Anyway, Jimmy was a fine footballer, Im too young to remebr him at City but watched im for Olympic and then ofcourse he achieved absolute cult status at AEK in Greece... still remembered there to this day as a club legend... shame he only got a few caps for the Socceroos, despite playing in two youth world cups....

 

[Robbos]

Gottcha, you basically ignored everything I said.. OK Robbos... no worries mate. all good. Glad you found something that "resonates"

You are very antagonist Mono, like I said earlier we are both passionate football fans, well you Soccer, but have different views. I have moved on.
You dislike the A-League with passion and I can understand why.
I like Grazorblade now followed the Socceroos but did not find a club in the NSL I felt passionate for, but you can't understand that, your issue.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Exactly LFC, I lived north of Hornsby and the city was a long way away for a young kid.
My dear old dad, who woke me up every morning in 1974 to watch the Socceroos games in the World cup and used to let me stay up for FA cup finals and told me exploits of Eusebio in Portugal world cup in 1966 and for Benfica was the reason I fell in love with the world game,
Archie Gemmill, Johan Cruyff and Atti Aboni were my heroes together with Eusebio.
My dad never got into Cricket or Rugby but also despite his love for football, never followed an Australian football team.
I loved Cricket and Rugby League back then, still follow cricket and loved my Shoot magazines.
Hope this helps Mono.

Fair enough mate... I get you NOT following a team until you were old enough, I just dispute the fact you "couldn't find one that made you feel welcome" Anyway, lets just agree to disagree.. My experience with soccer in Australia was with many fans outside the narrow confines of what Lowy attempted to tarnish us as ....

As for Shoot magazine ..... Never missed an issue My newsagent held every months Shoot, Goal and Roy of the Rovers aside ..... legend.

 

[Robbos]

I'm envious of those that connect with a team, whether an a league or nsl/npl team. The emotions that football can bring is unrivalled by other sports, but i only really get that for the national team. I care about the brisbane broncos, even tho I like the sport less but have never connected with an Australian football club despite watching every roar match

Curious why you connected with sfc?

It was a new beginning, the ability to take football to a new level in this country, but unfortunately the APL/FFA/FA failed the A-League, but I have invested 20 years now and I wonder whether we will ever get there.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

You are very antagonist Mono, like I said earlier we are both passionate football fans, well you Soccer, but have different views. I have moved on.
You dislike the A-League with passion and I can understand why.
I like Grazorblade now followed the Socceroos but did not find a club in the NSL I felt passionate for, but you can't understand that, your issue.

You're right, it IS my issue.... Maybe the clubs back then really DID actively push fans away at the turnstiles.. I never ever saw it but, perhaps they did ask every single person coming through what their name was and where their parents were born before selling them a ticket.....

 

[vo2Max]

You're right, it IS my issue.... Maybe the clubs back then really DID actively push fans away at the turnstiles.. I never ever saw it but, perhaps they did ask every single person coming through what their name was and where their parents were born before selling them a ticket.....

I only went to the SU v BWE games for the cevaps.

 

[vo2Max]

I wonder whether we will ever get there.

Let me save you another 20 years of despair.

It won't.

It's financial death now being hastened by carrying club women's teams.

 

[Robbos]

You're right, it IS my issue.... Maybe the clubs back then really DID actively push fans away at the turnstiles.. I never ever saw it but, perhaps they did ask every single person coming through what their name was and where their parents were born before selling them a ticket.....

See exactly, doesn't fit your narrative and you get aggressive.
I'm reading Ange's book and Ange is about my age.
He explains as a Greek Australian kid going with his Dad to watch Sth Melbourne play was the highlight of both their weeks.
I fully understand that, a place that reminds the old man of home and a young kid seeing his hero in his happy place.
This was not my experience in any clubs.

 

[Robbos]

Let me save you another 20 years of despair.

It won't.

It's financial death now being hastened by carrying club women's teams.

It's been 50 years now of following the game, so not something I'm not used to.

 

[vo2Max]

It's been 50 years now of following the game, so not something I'm not used to.

Just keep your expectations low and enjoy it for what it is.

 

[The Flying Bat]

It's financial death now being hastened by carrying club women's teams.

Yep. Absolutely 100% spot on...

The 10play TV deal component of the women's A League is virtually non existent. The money that comes through the gate is usually not enough to cover the cost of hiring the ground. Not enough to cover the cost of paying the groundsman probably!

Running a women's team in a national competition in Australia is extremely expensive. Even running a women's team in the women's EPL, the world's richest women's competition is a massive loss leader....

Manchester United's new part owner Jim Ratcliffe has been whinging about the cost effectiveness of his club running a women's team.....- it loses £10 million per year and counting apparently.

And that's Britain's wealthiest individual who is worth ~ £25 Billion and one of the world’s wealthiest sporting organisations.

So for those A League franchises who can't make a buck in the men's game, how do they even begin to give acquiescence to these A League women's franchises??

 

[vo2Max]

Yep. Absolutely 100% spot on...

The 10play TV deal component of the women's A League is virtually non existent. The money that comes through the gate is usually not enough to cover the cost of hiring the ground. Not enough to cover the cost of paying the groundsman probably!

Running a women's team in a national competition in Australia is extremely expensive. Even running a women's team in the women's EPL, the world's richest women's competition is a massive loss leader....

Manchester United's new part owner Jim Ratcliffe has been whinging about the cost effectiveness of his club running a women's team.....- it loses £10 million per year and counting apparently.

And that's Britain's wealthiest individual who is worth ~ £25 Billion and one of the world’s wealthiest sporting organisations.

So for those A League franchises who can't make a buck in the men's game, how do they even begin to give acquiescence to these A League women's franchises??

Awaiting the pearl clutching angry soy boys to show offence.

Tic toc tic toc.

 

[The Flying Bat]

Awaiting the pearl clutching angry soy boys to show offence.

Tic toc tic toc.

To be fair Mac, I've noticed that most of them prefer to avoid the difficult questions, the obvious problems and anything else that might be perceived as a 'negative comment' when it comes to the A League franchise competition....

It's all strawberries and cream on this two bobber...

 

[NoMates]

The A-League women's comp is just baggage the clubs fork out for, unwanted no, but money draining yes. Its like paying for child support to a one night stand. And they want equal pay which is a joke. I've tried to get the FTA TV rating but they have never made the threshold of 20k last year including finals and 40k this year - so any FTA game has never rated at all. Look I'm all for a women's comp that can fund itself - we need it to produce the next Matilda's but at what cost to the men's game? or the clubs that run them.