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♔ ♕ ♚ ♛ Australia U17/U20/U23 National Team Tournaments & Discussion Thread ♔ ♕ ♚ ♛

LFC said:
TBH this is best news since Qatar for us.
Great build up play and finish for the 1st goal.
2nd top strike.
Japs could mostly only shoot from edges or out of the box.
Nice to have one of our Teams in Finale.

Is it 10.30pm our time koff Saturday ?
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Appears to be. YouTube stream set to begin 15min before.
 
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of course no mention at all in the mainstream media... just more crap about Sheargold.

sick to death of this matildas bias from the media... this is a huge achievement for aussie football.
 
jas88 said:
of course no mention at all in the mainstream media... just more crap about Sheargold.

sick to death of this matildas bias from the media... this is a huge achievement for aussie football.
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Even the average soccer fan doesn't understand the accomplishment. People just don't care unless you're playing for one of the big teams you're not gonna get noticed sadly
 
melbcityguy said:
Even the average soccer fan doesn't understand the accomplishment. People just don't care unless you're playing for one of the big teams you're not gonna get noticed sadly
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Dude its U20s Asian Cup, get some perspective ffs.

Myanmar, North Korea, India, Israel, Syria, China..... everyone has won it at some point....
 
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Monoethnic Social Club said:
Dude its U20s Asian Cup, get some perspective ffs.

Myanmar, North Korea, India, Israel, Syria, China..... everyone has won it at some point....
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mate we just beat Japan for the first time in years for mens football that is a real achievement and also we where the better team it was not a backs to the wall get a lucky hit on the break
 
Midfielder said:
mat

mate we just beat Japan for the first time in years for mens football that is a real achievement and also we where the better team it was not a backs to the wall get a lucky hit on the break
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U20s football bud, NOT mens football.. Yes fantastic achievement and chuffed for the lads dont get me wrong.... That second gaol though... sheesh their keeper could have done a little bit better :P
 
Capac said:
I'm hoping this is just the standard we should expect from now on. The u17s convincing win at the latest tournament leads me to hope.
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The signs are promising.

Bearing in mind the absences of some of this group's mainstays (Nestory, Youlley, Younis, Di Pizio etc), Japan still looked technically superior to us. In particular, Schmidt and Ozeki really stood out to me.

That said, our advantage has always been our athleticism. When adopting the new curriculum, (IMO) the key was always to strike a balance between prioritising the focus on technical development without sacrificing the physical and athletic style we are famous for.

It appears to me that Japan is in the opposite phase now. They’ve always produced great technical players, but they’re beginning to develop elite athletes as well (see the steady rise of Japanese players in Europe over the past decade). However, I believe we are still superior in this area, particularly at u20 level, and it impacted last night's result.

Five years from now, I expect many of the Japanese players from last night to be making successful careers in Europe. The J-League does an excellent job of nurturing its talent. This is something Australian football has yet to figure out, often to the ruination of many promising careers.
 
Quicky said:
They've been less impressive than a lot of teams. Perhaps lucky to be in the final. Not that that matters now, they got there. Defensively solid.

This is a big opportunity for us but I hope we didn't play our final early v Japan. I hope we can keep our cool with the shenanigans. I hope the ref is east or central asian so we get a fair game.
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When do we find out who ref is?
 
JS96 said:
Interesting. BVM was the anchor on the playing group IMO and stifled any adventure. It'd be interesting to study how Japan recover from setbacks in games as they do tend to get a bit dodgy when they don't get that goal with each qualifying campaign having those odd home game results.
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I don’t disagree with you, but IMO van Marwijk simply didn’t believe he had the tools to aim for anything beyond an honourable defeat. And to be perfectly honest, neither did I.

Good point. The Japanese cultural pursuit of perfection is interesting to consider in the context of professional sport. I recently heard Adam Taggart talking about the J-League and how every team strives to score the ‘perfect’ goal.

As we know, sports culture is often a direct extension of a country's broader culture and values. The fearless, high-energy style embedded in an Australian athlete's psyche was on full display in this morning's Spurs/City game.
 
Total Football said:
The signs are promising.

Bearing in mind the absences of some of this group's mainstays (Nestory, Youlley, Younis, Di Pizio etc), Japan still looked technically superior to us. In particular, Schmidt and Ozeki really stood out to me.

That said, our advantage has always been our athleticism. When adopting the new curriculum, (IMO) the key was always to strike a balance between prioritising the focus on technical development without sacrificing the physical and athletic style we are famous for.

It appears to me that Japan is in the opposite phase now. They’ve always produced great technical players, but they’re beginning to develop elite athletes as well (see the steady rise of Japanese players in Europe over the past decade). However, I believe we are still superior in this area, particularly at u20 level, and it impacted last night's result.

Five years from now, I expect many of the Japanese players from last night to be making successful careers in Europe. The J-League does an excellent job of nurturing its talent. This is something Australian football has yet to figure out, often to the ruination of many promising careers.
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After watching last nights game for the first time I don’t see it that away that they were technically superior to us in fact it was quite even for most.

We could also make argument we went away from our strengths to try and compensate for our technical deficiencies but it seems we found the sweet spot now with the traditional strengths along with the improved technical skills.

The key thing now is maintaining it for all youth teams and hope this feeds into the senior team which has not been seen.
 
Roar92_ said:
I’ve recently joined from the old forum (with a name change) and this thread made me compelled to start commenting again.

What a fantastic achievement for us. Hopefully this ensures a bright future with us as there are many technically as well as physically and tactically adept footballers in this age group.

There are many standouts for me including Okon-Engstler, Esposito, Quintal, and Bennie (agree with earlier comments on Bennie - think he will be the type of player to keep progressing with the level of football he plays)

Very much looking forward to Saturday and confident we can get a result. How have the Saudi’s looked in their games?
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One thing worth noting is that our boys shut Japan out rather easily.

It wasn't the typical backs-to-the-wall, "give everything for the shirt and pray" type of result that we've so often seen from the Socceroos.

Not only did we manage to score twice, but we had a number of other opportunities to hurt Japan on the counter without really giving them a proper look at it.

A lot of these boys will be perfectly capable of backing it up in a couple nights.
 
JS96 said:
Which of this cohort should be short listed for the full team if not picked? Bennie and Toure?
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Bennie looks the most ready to play for the Socceroos right now.

Kikianis and Jovanovic are the others that appear to be knocking on the door for selection.

Toure fits a need, but I think his body needs to be managed. Priority should be going back to Denmark and getting minutes under his belt.
 
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