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Welcome to the forumTasmania is an economic wasteland that cannot support a professional football club. The fact that the cashed up AFL has not put a team there speaks volumes.
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Sign Up Now!Welcome to the forumTasmania is an economic wasteland that cannot support a professional football club. The fact that the cashed up AFL has not put a team there speaks volumes.
They have that much. The APL is essentially broke.The AFL will happily throw hundreds of millions of dollars at Tasmania
The six additional clubs that have passed the technical elements of the NST RFP process include: Adelaide City FC, Caroline Springs-George Cross FC, Gold Coast United FC, Gungahlin United FC, South Hobart FC, and Sunshine Coast FC.
Welcome to the forumTasmania should've gotten an A-League team before the AFL decided to give them a team. Lord knows that a 10k rectangular stadium would be so much cheaper than the billion dollar mess at maq point
Pignata must be spewing......Note South Hobart, not Team Tasmania.
Tasmania is an economic wasteland that cannot support a professional football club. The fact that the cashed up AFL has not put a team there speaks volumes.
Always why I bring up the ACT government in this discussion.so so frustrating we can't get anywhere - just a good smidgeon what those 2 other codes get.
Don't understand how one of the largest participated sports in the country backed by high profile international status/games can't get much out of the Feds - dribs drabs from State Gov but nothing what the sport really needs.
Can't stand them like Albo with Roo/Tilda scarfs at games l- JJ why bother accomodating these F's.
Is it JJ doesn't have a plan to sell ?
JJ how about finally getting over the line a HOME ground and training facilities instead of our Squads playing on other grounds used by other codes for starters.
Is the game disrespected by Government ?
What is needed to get over the line ?
So the only way Gov got behind it once upon a time because Frank knew Johnny, the classic not what you know but who you know ?????
Wow, I haven't read these articles until today, but just speaks volumes.Always why I bring up the ACT government in this discussion.
If Andrew Barr has his way, the ACT government will be providing around $6m a year in funding to the GWS Giants (3 AFL games + I think 1 AFLW game in Canberra annually) and Cricket Australia for an ACT based BBL team (I believe would be 4 games in Canberra, plus whatever the women's BBL has for home games).
In comparison, Canberra Raiders, ACT Brumbies, and Canberra United (this includes ACT Government commitments to a men's A-League side once this gets off the ground) receive a combined $5 million a year - for what would be I believe 31 games a year (just counting the men's leagues)
ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr is open to renegotiating the Canberra A-League bid's government funding to bring it in line with the Big Bash's whopper $3 million election promise.
But he said it would come down to them showing they had the same "media value" as the BBL and WBBL.
Canberra's A-League bid leader Michael Caggiano has called on the government to give soccer a fair go after Barr revealed his $3 million election promise for a Big Bash team.
That's how much the Chief Minister will pay a future Canberra team if he's re-elected next month.
There's a feeling in the ACT's soccer community they don't get the same funding as other sports - despite being the biggest participation sport in the capital.
Caggiano said increased funding would help close the multiple investors he's currently in negotiations with to back a Canberra A-League Men's team.
It could also save A-League Women's team Canberra United from extinction, with Capital Football unable to keep running the club beyond the upcoming summer.
Caggiano has a $1.2 million-per-year in-principle agreement with the ACT government for an ALM team, while Canberra United get $250,000 per annum.
He wants that brought in line with the money cricket's set to get if Canberra gets a Big Bash team.
The Canberra Times revealed he wrote to the soccer community about the vast discrepancy between what the two sports would get paid.
It's believed the Australian Professional Leagues, who run the A-Leagues, have written to Barr and Sports Minister Yvette Berry backing Caggiano's call.
Barr was asked about whether he was open to matching the A-Leagues money with the Big Bash on Thursday.
"We're certainly going to have that conversation," he said.
"The exact commercial arrangements differ between the sports.
"Important point to make with Big Bash is it is both men's and women's in equal measure. So it's a club that will have 10 games, five men's and five women's.
"Commercial arrangements ... they need to reflect the nature of the competition, their broadcast arrangements, the level of media value, if you like, from sponsorship placement, as well as the markets that they will be broadcast into.
ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr says they can't finalise a beefed-up A-League funding deal until they know who the owner will be.
But he said it would be in the ballpark of the $3 million a Canberra Big Bash team would get.
At the very least, the ACT government's in-principle agreement with Canberra's A-League Men's bid team would be indexed by inflation - given the agreement was seven years old.
That means the original $1.2 million deal would be worth about $1.57 million when a team was planned to come into the ALM competition in 2025.
Throw in the $250,000 A-League Women's team Canberra United get and the whole package would be worth north of $1.8 million - without any additional increase.
But Barr said they couldn't finalise any deal until they knew who the Canberra ALM owner was.
That was in contrast to a potential ACT Big Bash team, which would be owned by Cricket Australia.
The Canberra Times revealed Barr met with A-Leagues bosses on Tuesday and he labelled the discussions productive.
They met in the wake of Canberra A-League bid leader Michael Caggiano saying the capital's chances of getting a team - and the future of Canberra United - could hinge on increased government funding.
"We've had the beginnings of that, but we can't finalise it until we know who the other party that we're negotiating with - and that would be whoever that investor is," Barr said on Thursday.
"That's just the nature of the A-League's model.
"Whereas with cricket the owner of the team is Cricket Australia and effectively a contracting arrangement with Cricket ACT so that's a two-way negotiation as opposed to a three-way one."
Barr said any deal would be ramped up by inflation before they even looked at any potential increased exposure for Canberra as part of the deal.
It's believed Barr was made aware of the ALM's reach into Asia through potential participation in the Asian Champions League.
"The previous engagement with them and the offer that we put forward was seven years ago so obviously that would be indexed up to 2025-26 numbers," he said.
"We've increased our funding and already made a commitment to increase funding to Canberra United.
"So a combined club package - that is men's and women's - would be in a similar ballpark to what we are offering Big Bash."
Interestingly, Barr played down the $3 million funding he pledged to a Canberra Big Bash team as an ACT election promise.
He said money also flowed the other way - from the clubs to the government - through ground hire and things like payroll tax.
Barr felt that reduced the "net impact" of their agreements with Canberra clubs.
The Canberra Times believes hiring Canberra Stadium costs at least $180,000 per game to have all the stands and facilities open.
That would still see a Canberra Big Bash team facing a far superior funding model compared with soccer's current one.
There would be 10 Big Bash games played at Manuka Oval and - assuming that also costs $180,000 to hire - that would see cricket get a net government contribution of $1.2 million.
In contrast, there would be at least 13 ALM games at Canberra Stadium meaning ground hire would cost $2.34 million per season - about $500,000 more than their $1.8 million in funding.
"It was not the net impact. I do need to be clear that money flows both ways in these commercial deals," Barr said.
"So any commercial arrangement, whether it be Big Bash, rugby league, rugby union, AFL - there are [ground] hire fees and payroll taxes that come back to government.
"And then there's government sponsorship that often manifests itself in city and tourism branding logos and those sorts of things."
Barr decision on Canberra A-League funding imminent
ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr is considering giving a Canberra A-League team "Big Bash money" after meeting with soccer heavyweights on Tuesday.
The Canberra Times believes the conversation between Barr, ACT Sports Minister Yvette Berry and Australian Professional Leagues head honchos was positive, with an announcement of a boost in funding potentially as early as this week.
Any increase in government funding could help lock in investors at a crucial stage of negotiations.
It would be a major boost for Canberra's hopes of finally securing an A-League Men's team - which would also secure the future of A-League Women's team Canberra United.
Barr said he was open to increasing the potential funding of a Canberra ALM side two weeks ago after The Canberra Times revealed bid leader Michael Caggiano said it could make or break the capital's chances of getting a team.
The bid currently has an in-principle agreement with the government for $1.2 million in funding per annum for an ALM team, while Canberra United currently receives $250,000 a year.
That combined figure of $1.45 million would be the lowest of any of the ACT's major sporting teams and would be less than half of the whopping $3 million Barr has pledged for a potential Big Bash team.
Barr said he'd chip in that $3 million annual figure towards a Canberra Big Bash team if Labor were re-elected at this month's ACT election.
He's currently considering bringing the funding for a Canberra ALM team in line with what a cricket team would get.
The APL also meet with other key stakeholders in Canberra as they continue their push for a Canberra team to enter the competition for 2025-26.
Talks to land investors have dragged on after the search began more than 18 months ago.
The APL also looked at stadium sites and met with the AIS in regards to training facilities and investment opportunities.
Canberra Stadium's future site has become a hot election topic with ACT Labor backing a Bruce location, while the Canberra Liberals want to build a new stadium at Acton Waterfront.
It's created a clear choice between the parties on one of the capital's key infrastructure projects.
The APL's preferred location for an A-League team's training base is the AIS.
It's believed the AIS were open to making that happen and would welcome external funding for the project.
Meanwhile, the Canberra Liberals will build a multi-purpose sporting arena in the Woden area as part of a comprehensive plan for Murrumbidgee that will be announced on Thursday.
ACT Opposition Leader Elizabeth Lee also said they'd allocate funding to upgrades of sporting grounds in the area.
"The Canberra Liberals have a strong plan for the electorate of Murrumbidgee that will focus on enhancing community infrastructure, transport, cost of living relief, healthcare and education," she said.
Murrumbidgee MLA Ed Cocks said the "Southside Arena" would include a swimming pool as well as an indoor sports facility.
The Liberals' Murrumbidgee plan also included the construction of the Molonglo East-West arterial road and the duplication of Athllon Drive to improve travel between Woden and Tuggeranong.
"The population of Woden has been increasing and yet there has been a significant erosion of community facilities and local infrastructure," Cocks said.
"A new Southside Arena delivered by the Canberra Liberals will include an Olympic-size swimming pool, multi-sports facility, and community meeting and event spaces.
"With recreational and aquatic facilities like water slides, a splash park, and a hydrotherapy pool, the arena will be all-ages friendly."
Won’t even happen now. Made the worst decision financially, as now there’s no light rail to Belconnen, but a new/renovated stadium will be there, rather than along the light rail line in the city. Make that make senseI'd say it's even worse for CBR.
Remember when they promised that Civic stadium was gonna be built like 7 years ago... Not to mention that light rail to Belconnen by 2030 lol.
Theyll be lucky if it makes it to Woden.Won’t even happen now. Made the worst decision financially, as now there’s no light rail to Belconnen, but a new/renovated stadium will be there, rather than along the light rail line in the city. Make that make sense
The idiot took too long to implement 2A. Should have included that all the way into Stage 1. Then if Stage 2 gets the hold up from the Federal Gov (which is what's been happening), just start building in another direction to make the most of it and don't stop things. That's his other problemTheyll be lucky if it makes it to Woden.