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Vieri said:
I'd say it's even worse for CBR.

Remember when they promised that Civic stadium was gonna be built like 7 years ago... Not to mention that light rail to Belconnen by 2030 lol.
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Andrew Barr is an incompetent fool

Tasmanian governemnt isn't much better

In an ideal world they would both already have A-League teams but we don't live in an ideal world
 
I guess as a 'former' politician, Stevie Conroy didn't have too much pull. Not seeing much come the A Leagues way.
Look at V'Landys with the NRL, lobbies in WA, they are soon going to get $500 mil to start up the Perth Bears.
 
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More NIMBYs and dog walkers trying to stop South Hobart improving the ground with women's and disability facilities. But for now it seems the council is actually on the club's side and told the whingers to jam it.

South Hobart Oval Master Plan

Consultation for this project has now closed. The South Hobart Oval and Park Draft Master Plan went to the Hobart City Council on 19 February 2024. At that meeting, Council resolved to defer the South Hobart Master Plan until the new Dog Management Policy had been
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HappyGuus said:
More NIMBYs and dog walkers trying to stop South Hobart improving the ground with women's and disability facilities. But for now it seems the council is actually on the club's side and told the whingers to jam it.

South Hobart Oval Master Plan

Consultation for this project has now closed. The South Hobart Oval and Park Draft Master Plan went to the Hobart City Council on 19 February 2024. At that meeting, Council resolved to defer the South Hobart Master Plan until the new Dog Management Policy had been
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I believe a similar thing happened in Melbourne a few years back. Some huge park that Victory or someone wanted to do something on but the local soft cocks & Karens got in on the act.
 
erogenouszone said:
I believe a similar thing happened in Melbourne a few years back. Some huge park that Victory or someone wanted to do something on but the local soft cocks & Karens got in on the act.
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Yep, Victory was seeking approval to develop their academy at Footscray Park but it ultimately got rejected due to the NIMBYs and dog walkers. Alot of the anit-development campaign was pushed heavily by AFL friendly media outlets.
 
A few pieces about Devonport's upgrades. They are achieving good things there and planning for the future to host A-League matches. I've always advocated for them to host some Tasmania United matches, if that club ever gets accepted. If they're going to have three home grounds we might as well call them the "Rovers", we don't need another United. Interesting to see that Western United were included in discussions.

If the numbers are correct, they're looking at a 5,000 seat facility for just $12m. What are other clubs build costs like?


www.theadvocate.com.au

Strikers' strong pitch to turn Valley Road into state's top soccer complex in limbo

'We believe both projects can happen.'
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Mr Smith said the Strikers had talks with Western United, who had shown interest in playing at Valley Road.

"There are significant opportunities to build relationships, particularly with Western United that are Geelong based with the (Spirits) sailing between the cities," he said.

"There is a move from A-League teams to play in more regional centres because of the cost prohibition of large stadiums, and it doesn't provide the best atmosphere from a spectator point of view.

"We have support from all levels of government and Western United who are behind the Valley Road facility.

Mr Smith said the club built the facility through its "own sweat equity."

The council has previously invested $400,000 in Valley Road, compared to other sports facilities that received $11 million and $9 million.

"We have never been a club to put our hand out to council," Mr Smith said.
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www.theadvocate.com.au

Strikers to up the ante at Valley Road in bid to host A-League action

The upgrades will be a 'fraction of the cost of an AFL stadium'.
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A-League matches on the Coast could soon become a reality, with the Devonport Strikers determined to further upgrade its Valley Road facilities at a "fraction of the cost of an AFL stadium".

The Strikers will submit a development application for the second piece of their master plan, which includes an additional 1000 seats to the western end of the ground.

Devonport Strikers' president Drew Smith said the upgrades will make Valley Road "the standout facility for football in Tasmania".

"It is part of our master plan to have the facility capable of holding 5000 spectators to support A-League content or elite content in the future," Smith said.

"We would see this facility as being the home of A-League [men's and women's] in the north of the state. [5000 seats is] quite a comfortable size for a boutique regional facility to host elite level football."

A new grandstand is currently under construction on the northern side of the ground, which will include seating, A-League standard change rooms, a gym and public toilet facilities.

It is expected to be completed by early 2025 at an estimated cost of $6 million, according to Smith.

He also added that the western end seating would cost an estimated $1.5 million, with targeted completion by December 2025.

Smith was hopeful of securing additional funding for the second development phase.

"We've certainly had the support of the Devonport City Council, federal government and Tasmanian government to develop the facility to its current state," he said.

"We'll be seeking further assistance and support to get this to an A-League venue. But I can assure you it will be a fraction of the cost for an AFL stadium."

Football Tasmania CEO Tony Pignata said upgrades to Valley Road would boost the state's bid for an A-League team.

"Part of our strategy is about developing facilities. We're trying to get facilities up in the North and North-West. The vision by Drew and his board is fantastic," Pignata said.

"It's also about bringing an A-League team one day to Tasmania, which is long overdue. We can play home games here if we can get it up to 5000. All the other requirements will be met in terms of change rooms, broadcasting and lighting.

"We wouldn't want to play in an oval stadium like the new stadium in Hobart, it won't suit our mantra."
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HappyGuus said:
A few pieces about Devonport's upgrades. They are achieving good things there and planning for the future to host A-League matches. I've always advocated for them to host some Tasmania United matches, if that club ever gets accepted. If they're going to have three home grounds we might as well call them the "Rovers", we don't need another United. Interesting to see that Western United were included in discussions.

If the numbers are correct, they're looking at a 5,000 seat facility for just $12m. What are other clubs build costs like?


www.theadvocate.com.au

Strikers' strong pitch to turn Valley Road into state's top soccer complex in limbo

'We believe both projects can happen.'
www.theadvocate.com.au www.theadvocate.com.au





www.theadvocate.com.au

Strikers to up the ante at Valley Road in bid to host A-League action

The upgrades will be a 'fraction of the cost of an AFL stadium'.
www.theadvocate.com.au www.theadvocate.com.au



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The only issue is Devonport is a ghost town
 
HappyGuus said:
A few pieces about Devonport's upgrades. They are achieving good things there and planning for the future to host A-League matches. I've always advocated for them to host some Tasmania United matches, if that club ever gets accepted. If they're going to have three home grounds we might as well call them the "Rovers", we don't need another United. Interesting to see that Western United were included in discussions.

If the numbers are correct, they're looking at a 5,000 seat facility for just $12m. What are other clubs build costs like?


www.theadvocate.com.au

Strikers' strong pitch to turn Valley Road into state's top soccer complex in limbo

'We believe both projects can happen.'
www.theadvocate.com.au www.theadvocate.com.au





www.theadvocate.com.au

Strikers to up the ante at Valley Road in bid to host A-League action

The upgrades will be a 'fraction of the cost of an AFL stadium'.
www.theadvocate.com.au www.theadvocate.com.au



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Thanks a bunch for posting this, Happy Guus!

I'm not in the Tasmanian football loop like I was.

I've taken rep teams and NPL teams to play on Devonport Football Club's pitches. In winter it was a quagmire, with poor drainage. In summer it was lot better to play on. They've drawn over 2000 to watch Devonport Strikers playing in the NPL Cup.

I'm interested to read in the article that Football Aus likes the idea of playing in cheaper regional centres.

The best vantage points for viewing football in Tas have been current South Hobart and current KGV Football Tas grounds, despite their small stands.

North Hobart has a superb playing surface, but it is difficult to get elevated positions close to the side of the pitch. I've found it difficult to view the far side of the pitch from Ryde St Stand at Western United games.

The Ricky Ponting Stand at Bellerive Oval is good.

I've had a few vantage points at the York Park Stadium in Launceston, with few being good.

I think a 5000 capacity ground at Devonport would be good, as long as they improve drainage. It rains heavily on the NW Coast and Devonport in winter. The south- east of Tas is comparatively arid.
 
someguyjc said:
To be fair, the entire state is a ghost town. Gold Coast has a higher population (by a good 100k) than the entire state of Tasmania.
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The premise you are using is the David Gallop one. 'Fish where the fish are,' was his mantra.

Previously, Clive Palmer's Gold Coast drew appalling crowds. Currently, Macarthur and Western U have been an abject failure in terms of getting crowd support, using the DG premise.

We draw bigger crowds in Tas in Hobart for Western U games, with barely any advertising, than they regularly get at Macarthur and Western U. Having said this, I laud both clubs for the high quality and style of football on the pitch their A L teams play. I just wish one of them was located here. I'd contend the other should be in the ACT/Canberra.
 
Decentric said:
Thanks a bunch for posting this, Happy Guus!

I'm not in the Tasmanian football loop like I was.

I've taken rep teams and NPL teams to play on Devonport Football Club's pitches. In winter it was a quagmire, with poor drainage. In summer it was lot better to play on. They've drawn over 2000 to watch Devonport Strikers playing in the NPL Cup.

I'm interested to read in the article that Football Aus likes the idea of playing in cheaper regional centres.

The best vantage points for viewing football in Tas have been current South Hobart and current KGV Football Tas grounds, despite their small stands.

North Hobart has a superb playing surface, but it is difficult to get elevated positions close to the side of the pitch. I've found it difficult to view the far side of the pitch from Ryde St Stand at Western United games.

The Ricky Ponting Stand at Bellerive Oval is good.

I've had a few vantage points at the York Park Stadium in Launceston, with few being good.

I think a 5000 capacity ground at Devonport would be good, as long as they improve drainage. It rains heavily on the NW Coast and Devonport in winter. The south- east of Tas is comparatively arid.
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Devonport are definitely passionate about their club, that's for sure. They actually have the HIGHEST average attendance in the Australia Cup (excluding A-League clubs), with South Melbourne and South Hobart equal second.

 
Decentric said:
The premise you are using is the David Gallop one. 'Fish where the fish are,' was his mantra.

Previously, Clive Palmer's Gold Coast drew appalling crowds. Currently, Macarthur and Western U have been an abject failure in terms of getting crowd support, using the DG premise.

We draw bigger crowds in Tas in Hobart for Western U games, with barely any advertising, than they regularly get at Macarthur and Western U. Having said this, I laud both clubs for the high quality and style of football on the pitch their A L teams play. I just wish one of them was located here. I'd contend the other should be in the ACT/Canberra.
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The WU games are a bit of a novelty though. Same when MV played games down there. Getting people week in week out for a full regular season is a different kettle of fish. That being said, I reckon a Hobart club would work but not a blanket Tasmania united club. The main cities are way too far apart. With the A-League the way it is now, it all comes down to whether a club has a moneybags owner(s). Geography is largely irrelevant if there isn't someone willing to lose millions year on year.
Gold Coast is an interesting case. It's a different culture up there. I reckon for a Gold Coast A-League to work, it would need to be a winter competition.
 
someguyjc said:
To be fair, the entire state is a ghost town. Gold Coast has a higher population (by a good 100k) than the entire state of Tasmania.
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Like I said in the last forum, when GC got dumped they had a population of 500k. They now have a population of 750k. What a failure of long term planning.
 
TheSelectFew said:
Like I said in the last forum, when GC got dumped they had a population of 500k. They now have a population of 750k. What a failure of long term planning.
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The AFL has a Gold Coast team and they don't attract crowds, basketball use to have teams there but they folded due to lack of support. The NRL have the Titans located up there and they had to be propped up by the NRL twice for several years. They now are stable because of deep pocket investors and thsi decade they have grown their average home attendance from 4k to 15k (round numbers).

So basically, the GC is where normal sports go to die. Surfing and golf are doing well though.
 
WhatAmIWatching said:
The AFL has a Gold Coast team and they don't attract crowds, basketball use to have teams there but they folded due to lack of support. The NRL have the Titans located up there and they had to be propped up by the NRL twice for several years. They now are stable because of deep pocket investors and thsi decade they have grown their average home attendance from 4k to 15k (round numbers).

So basically, the GC is where normal sports go to die. Surfing and golf are doing well though.
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Horse racing too
 
someguyjc said:
The WU games are a bit of a novelty though. Same when MV played games down there. Getting people week in week out for a full regular season is a different kettle of fish. That being said, I reckon a Hobart club would work but not a blanket Tasmania united club. The main cities are way too far apart. With the A-League the way it is now, it all comes down to whether a club has a moneybags owner(s). Geography is largely irrelevant if there isn't someone willing to lose millions year on year.
Gold Coast is an interesting case. It's a different culture up there. I reckon for a Gold Coast A-League to work, it would need to be a winter competition.
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IMO the Hobart mainstream media gave virtually no coverage to the the Western United games games held in Hobart.

If there was a regular Hobart AL team and a regular club presence, with a lot more local people involved, I think there would be week in and week out supporters, plus members. I would definitely take on a season membership.

However, I'm not sure why Gold Coast ( probably Palmer's pernicious influence); Western U , with its distinct connection to the Geelong area; and Macarthur, with its south Sydney location; have drawn such disappointing crowds?

One scenario to look at is Auckland. Nobody turned up to watch the Kingz, yet the Ausckland club this season is drawing huge crowds. Why?

I used to have inside contacts within FFA. Not now. Gallop was a hair's breadth away from awarding the AL licence to the Belteky/Stamoulis Tasmanian bid. Fox Sport lobbied hard to stop it! Then Fox pulled out of football altogether shortly after!
 
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